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The mission: Protecting Israel
Yoni, Israeli hacker
Published: 18.01.12, 01:23
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1. Kol haKvod, achi. Though be careful what you say.
Henry from New York ,   USA   (01.18.12)
Make sure to not accidentally give away how you work and all that. Excellent job though. I'm glad some Israelim are taking the initiative to defend their country while the government gets their ducks in a row. Keep up the great work and I hope that you will get support from the government at some point.
2. Kol Hakavod
Wolf ,   San jose ca   (01.18.12)
3. stop defending yourself, just continue!
Ben ,   Toronto, Canada   (01.18.12)
4. #1 - I should note though that you obviously know that.
Henry from New York ,   USA   (01.18.12)
It's fun to think that you can do more damage with a computer than the average soldier could do with a rifle (except in special cases)
5. Kol Ha'Kavod!
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (01.18.12)
Don't stop until all those who do not wish Israel well have been neutralized and made to understand that Israel will not be trifled with. If the lesson comes dear -- so much the better.
6. Israeli Hackers
ShoshieB ,   Migdal, Israel   (01.18.12)
Well done!!! Keep up the good work - they can do it and their governments don't do anything about it? Well good luck to you all - be safe...
7. Cyber war
Istvan ,   BUDAPEST HUNGARY   (01.18.12)
Congratulations, for the talent and brave young israelis in the frontline of that war. If I were myself a hacker, I should inform the enemies that the whole computer and internet culture was invented mostly by jews ( Ca 60 % ) as Neumann, Kahn, Brin and hundred others belonged to them. Not a polite thing to use the internet just against those people who constructed it. It would be very useful to write this fact in the hacked websites.
8. You dont have to explain anything
A ,   Belgium   (01.18.12)
Just do your job the best you can, quietly, thoroughly and effectively. Explanations, excuses, and apologies will come later from the Saudi Ox when their computer systems collapse. B'hatslacha veh hesher koach!
9. God bless you.You are no less hero than a solder
hadad ,   uk   (01.18.12)
10. hackers retaliate against...whom ?
moshe ,   Tivon, Israel   (01.18.12)
Israeli hackers: Meridor is quoted as saying "There is no evidence that these hackers are indeed Saudi," I hope that the Israeli hackers are 99.99% sure that the hacking of Israeli websites come from Saudi Arabia. If they are 99.99% sure, then Israeli hackers have indeed shown that it does not pay to start a computer war with Israel...the Israeli hackers have and will... kicked "Nightmare" asses. On the other hand. Israel will pay dearly in terms of its honor, and fair mindedness ... if ; IF Meridor is correct. Further, the Israeli hackers have behaved reckelssly done DAMAGE in Israel's name. moshe
11. U make us proud ! GOOD LUCK!
Yaffa ,   Israel   (01.18.12)
12. To: Moshe at No. 10
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (01.18.12)
I disagree. I think that if the hackers wish to pursue a Saudi identity, that would be Saudi Arabia's problem following Israeli retaliation. Perhaps the Saudis can convince the hackers to follow a different course. I also think that Israel has a perfect right to retaliate against those entities from whence the hackers claim to come. Damage? To Saudi Arabia? Who cares? Haven't the Saudis caused enough damage to the world economy by refusing to raise production levels and by escalating prices? All this while the United States' Fifth Navy sits off the coast of Jeddah, protecting them? I see nothing wrong in giving Saudi Arabia a brand new -- albeit unpleasant -- reality with which to deal. Do you? I think Israel's best interests will be served in the long run, because we are the best at what we are doing. One fights fire with fire, dear.
13. To: A at No. 8
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (01.18.12)
Exactly. Don't complain; don't explain. Especially the latter.
14. Chess Game
Sashalev ,   Usa   (01.18.12)
I just hope you are hitting the right targets... Who is most interested in an open Saudi-Israeli cyber conflict, besides the Saudi jihadists of course? I am just saying maybe you download a few Iranian dbs, just in case...
15. Sarah B No.12: wind is wrong...DON'T fight fire with fire
moshe ,   Tivon   (01.18.12)
Sarah B. No. 12 The State of Israel has limited resources, as a result Israel isn't aggressive to those who do not physically attack. A wise policy: there are 250 million Arabs, many countries. Those Arabs that make NO public hostile moves, Israel should treat with respect. YES...including Saudi Arabia ! My view is that Israel's "best interests" is keeping its gun powder dry, to be used as needed. When the wind is wrong, one DOESN'T fight fire with fire ! moshe
16. ברוך תהיה
PETER SM ,   AUSTRALIA   (01.19.12)
17. A criminal
Peter   (01.19.12)
is a criminal.I don't care what "noble motive" someone has to justify his deeds.If he want to help his country there is certainly a way to do it without breaking the law.All these TBs who're encouraging him would change their mind if their credit cards would be hacked and used up to the bitter end.Sorry folks but you have just become a digital collateral damage but it's all in good cause
18. To: Moshe at No. 15
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (01.19.12)
I'm not thinking gunpowder. I'm thinking uranium 235. Put them all out of our -- and by that, I mean the sane world -- misery. I assure you that I am not stupid; nor am I unrealistc. If the world is prepared to sacrifice Israel on a tarnished silver platter, shouldn't Israel sacrifice them first? The world has rolled the dice on Israel and the Jewish people often enough -- it might be of some interest to see how they react when the tables are turned. Moshe, it all boils down to anti-Semitism. The only difference is that the establishment of the modern State of Israel centralized the target and gave all the vile Jew-haters a centralized target. Well -- target them back. See if they have the stones to put their money where their mouths are. I'm betting they don't. They lack both the courage and the ability. Think Shimshon. We WILL pull down the temple walls -- and leave the rest of the world uninhabitable for the next 100,000 years. What's good for Israel is good for the Jews. The only reason that we continue to exist is because the State of Israel exists. Should that someday be threatened -- they're coming with us. No more Jews filing passively into gas chambers -- or their twenty-first century equivalent -- ever again. Even if we have to pull down the temple walls.
19. To: No. 17
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (01.19.12)
They started. We never bothered with the Saudis. Now they are bothering us, and they will pay a very heavy price for so doing. Wait until we hack into their petroleum generating and refining systems. Then, perhaps they will learn not to mess with Jews. Turnabout is fair play.
20. #17 - I keep a 300 usd credit limit on my cc and never use
Henry from New York ,   USA   (01.19.12)
my debit card except through sites with ironclad security. I don't worry about them being stolen via the web. On Yoni's actions. They're criminal, maybe, but he's doing more to help the State than any of us are. Sometimes you have to break the law to do what is right.
21. To 17 We became collateral damage when Saudi hackers began!
EST ,   Miami USA   (01.19.12)
22. To: Henry at No. 20
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (01.19.12)
I do not consider them to be crimina acts Since when is self-defense a criminal act? (I can explain it to you if you wish, but you need only ask your father. He's a lawyer, and can lay it out for you.) Wise choice, by the way, with respect to the credit/debit card. I, myself, have gone back to writing checks. Much, much safer. My credit card numbers are nowhere to be found on the Internet.
23. Yoni
A Jerusalemite ,   Jerusalem, Israel   (01.19.12)
שישיר כוח! All the more power to you! We need more like you. Many heartfelt thanks.
24. To moshe
Huaasin ,   KSA   (01.19.12)
to moshe. I agree with you completely. I'm from Saudi Arabia. More people in Saudi Arabia. This is against hackers whose name is Omar. Believe me, the timing of the attack indicates that it is linked to Iran. Iran is facing major problems. I'm sure that the wise men in Israel. You know that hackers do not Saudis. There are no problems between Israel and Saudi Arabia. Thanks to all.
25. Sarah B. Samson died...Beigin didn't
moshe ,   Tivon, Isreal   (01.19.12)
Sarah B. I think understand your hatred for Jewish weakness, or cowardlyness has overcome your reasoning. I love to play chess with such exhuberant, fiery people, because they don't know when or how to defend...so their attack usually FAILS. When Israel knows the details of the Ox that started a cyber war against Israel, only then will Israel have the advantage. I am too willing to crush or even to eliminate those who attack Jews: those that lead them, and even those that aid them. If Saudis are not responsible for the cyber attacks against Israel then I for one, would leave them in peace. You don't seem to understand the CONCEPT , I have repeated below. " When the wind is wrong, one DOESN'T fight fire with fire !" moshe
26. To: No. 25
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (01.19.12)
And when the wind is right, do they still get a free pass?
27. #22 - I have asked him many times what constitutes
Henry from New York ,   USA   (01.19.12)
self-defence in different situations and he will always say that you basically need to prove that you are in fact acting in defence of yourself, and that you can only do as much as is needed to stop the person, nothing more (it can be difficult to prove weren't excessive in your retaliation, etc.) That is not his specialty though. I actually thought of a good argument to go along with this. In Judaism we have Shabbat where there are extra mitzvot, yes? However, if say, someone were drowning in front of a Jew, then said Jew would be required to break whatever mitzvot necessary to rescue that person. That seems to show that while our values include adherence to laws, they also encourage us to do the right thing no matter what. Yoni is no different... and (general remark to everyone) don't go applying American values to Israelis.
28. Two wrongs don't always make a right
David ,   Israel   (01.19.12)
But never the less I cheer what you guys are doing. Unfortunately the new wars facing Israel today is delegitimization. For too many years we have taken the high and moral ground operating with results that left plenty of losses. This can be seen on the battlefields as an army we have fought on to which today the same threats exist purely because of international pressure and fear of condemnation. This can be seen in the West bank to Gaza to Lebanon. While the hacking of today against Israeli civilians is a different kind of war, I believe that it is something the state can't fight back fairly and diplomatically. I also believe that it is a duty for us to strike the hackers back harder as a means of regaining national pride. To show those that threaten us that we have the best and brightest citizens who have a booming high tech economy on a speck of sand in the Middle East and that when threatened we won't sit back and have our daily lives effected. That we will not be defeated. That we are a nation of intelligent intellectuals that will always be creative and innovative and persevere because its in our blood as the Jewish people!
29. Good one,keep at it,and good luck
Donald Greaves ,   London UK   (01.20.12)
30. Criminals
WadiAra ,   Israel   (01.20.12)
This a criminal act. Hiding behind the mantra of some misguided nationalism akes it no less objectionable. The writer seems unaware of the long-term implications of such actions - a sign of great immaturity.
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