Opinion  Guy Bechor
Hamas in deep trouble
Guy Bechor
Published: 27.01.12, 00:43
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31. #26 hameed - Excellent post!
solomon ,   bklyn   (01.28.12)
32. to : Sarah
Pierre ,   Lebanon   (01.28.12)
You missed one detail : israel was never there, it was the land of the arabs, and palestinians, and all muslims, ruled by them for centuries, its their holy land, European jews came and took over..You guys manipulate people with your history thats full of lies and controversies and contradictions
33. #16
Sam M ,   UK   (01.28.12)
You're an arab trying to pass yourself off as an indigenous 'palestinian'. This is a fictional identity you co-opted from the Jewish people whose presence in The Land of Israel predates your own by several thousand years. You are descended from very recent migrants drawn to Israel from neighbouring arab lands attracted by the prosperity the Jews created. Your fabricated history 'emerged' following a blinding revelation in the 1960's when you pals stumbled across your 'true identity' coincidentally following your military defeat at the hand. of Israel!! It's time to move on and acknowledge that jordan which occupies over two thirds of the original mandate for palestine and with an overwhelming palestinian majority is your homeland. Once the jordanian monarchy is swept aside it will be time to assert your claim and deal with the small matter of the bedouin who like all your 'arab brothers' resent your presence and only tolerate it as long as you are of any use in the arab plan to destroy Israel. The armed struggle in jordan will begin predictably in time honoured arab fashion following declarations of fraternal and everlasting brotherhood between palestinians and bedouin. That's when you need to be at your most vigilant habibi!! It's time to embrace your arab identity and turn it into something that palestinians can regard with pride instead of distorting history on an epic scale and shamelessly living on the largesse of the 'international community'. Lets see the eye watering levels of aid you people consume much of which lines the pockets of your corrupt elite given instead to genuinely poverty stricken people in other parts of the world. Being close to the top of the united nations world obesity index as you palestinians are and 'jumping the aid queue just shows how shameless you people are. If you need any inspiration just look at what Israel achieved in 60 odd years!
34. Mr.Bechor,you are very right specially ..
Merca ,   Barcelona.SPAIN   (01.28.12)
concerning palestinian politics:double headed-triple headed etc etc.In the palestinian camp,when peace is discussed and some kind of accords are reached,their implementation is almost impossible because theirs rulers only represent his faction.
35. To: No. 32
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (01.28.12)
There was a Kingdom of Israel and a Kingdom of Judah long before the term "Arab" was invented, and certainly long before your pedophile "prophet" founded a gutter religion. Most of us were scattered to the four winds -- although some Jews never left -- and Jews over the intervening millennia have always come back -- witness the ancient city of Tsfat. We are simply reclaiming what is ours. If you want to reclaim what is yours, you'd better streak it as fast as you can to the Arabian peninsula. That's where Arabs come from, dimwit.
36. #16
Sam M ,   UK   (01.28.12)
You claim you're living under 'occupation' when the only military on the ground are your own home grown jihadi thugs! When the overwhelming majority of 'refugees' have not only never set foot in the land they claim as their own but are themselves descendants of arabs who migrated there in recent times from neighbouring lands and who till just a few years ago only ever identified themselves as 'arabs' claiming allegiance to the communities or clans from whence they originally came!! When howls of rage and accusations of 'war crimes' are made following justifiable Israeli action to stop the firing of thousands if missiles by terrorists into Israeli communities. Only an arab could turn logic completely on it's head as you do! You pals are well known for a flowery phrase or two but you need to live in the real world for a change and not the fictional arab 'narnia' you're created which has stretched your credibilty way beyond breaking point!
37. #32 pierre
solomon ,   bklyn   (01.28.12)
Israel was there millenia before the arab conquest. Jews were in the middle east and north africa way before Muhammed, as they were the ones attacked. Ever wonder why the Jewish Quarter in the [Very] Old City of Jerusalem is called the Jewish Quarter? You ignore many "details". You guys manipulate people with your history thats full of lies, creating contradictions which you ignore.
38. Sarah B
Is ,   Germany   (01.28.12)
Sarah u r fantastic keep it up. IS
39. Sarah B
Marcelo ,   São Paulo - Brasil   (01.28.12)
Oh...I just fell in love with Sarah B rethoric...can I be friends with her on Facebook? :-) Keep it up clever woman!
40. #35's statements are factually correct. It seems as though
Henry from New York ,   USA   (01.28.12)
#32 implied that the area only came into existence about 1.500 years ago and is focusing on who had the most people in the area at that time.
41. #29 - I do it rather frequently. I never call them Hamas as
Henry from New York ,   USA   (01.28.12)
Humus (I know it is usually transliterated as hummus) is considerably more pleasant.
42. Deep trouble? Hamas ain't seen nothin' yet.
Brad ,   USA   (01.28.12)
43. HAMAS WILL TERMINATE IN THE THRASH OF HISTORY ! (End )
Mark ,   T.a. Israel   (01.28.12)
44.  NOMAD - DON'T HOLD YOUR BREATH
BEN JABO ,   ISRAEL   (01.29.12)
45. From the moment they got into power...
Sammy ,   Newcastle   (01.29.12)
Things have gone drastically downhill They have NO credible strategy for the future They have virtually SOLD the SOUL of Gaza down the alter of greed for Ahmadinejads millions They have created an authoritarian regime that silences dissent and deliberately impoverishes the majority to keep their grip on power They DELIBERATELY promote their rocket attacks on Israel to force Israel to maintain the sense of siege and the status quo of their OWN MAKING They are gradually trying to impose a SHIA-SHARIA society in Gaza - WHILST their Hamas ELITE enjoy all the trappings of Western Luxury in Syria Lebanon and the Gulf - Mashaal being the LEADING LIGHT of this TOTAL HIPOCRACY They are an insult to the intelligence of the Palestinian Nation
46. #45 sammy
solomon ,   bklyn   (01.29.12)
You have just described all of the totalitarian regimes (aka arab and iranian) in the world. The "Palestinian Nation" is a fiction concocted for political purposes, which they have admitted.
47. #46. You completely miss the point
Sammy ,   Newcastle   (01.29.12)
You are mistaking my vehement criticism of Hamas for some implied disregard for my identity Your problem is that whilst you want me to recognise an Israeli identity - you think you can you can somehow dictate what MY identity should be? MY identity is predicated upon the nation of Arab and Christian peoples united by a deep historical affinity to Palestine. So we both have a deep affinity for the land. So the answer is crystal clear. A Nation State of East and West Palestine living side by side in Peace with the Nation State of Israel And the moment when people like you and I start speaking with one voice in the same wavelength...anything becomes possible So Solly we should all take a leaf of of King Solomon...and think more wisely!
48. same applies to israel ally USA, very low on $ LOL
james ,   ny usa   (01.29.12)
49. It didn't take long for Hamas to find replacement funding
Rafael V Rabinovich   (01.29.12)
On related news, Turkey just pledge 300 millon bucks a year for Hamas. They're not going to be starving in their brand new cadillacs in Gaza, but they'll blame Israel for it anyway
50. #47 sammy
solomon ,   bklyn   (01.30.12)
I understand that your identity is predicated on the Arab and Christian peoples. That is how it should be. That is also what the arabs who lived in the Mandate area said. They insisted on it, saying that they are not "Palestinian" but Syrian, Iraqi, Egyptian, etc arabs. You may have a deep affinity for the land, but it is recent in terms of history. This “Palestinian identity” began after the ’67 war. As has been said by Mr. Zuheir Mohsen, a leader in the PLO in an inverview, March 1977, with the Dutch newspaper Trouw: "The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality today there is no difference between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct Palestinian people to oppose Zionism." "For tactical reasons, Jordan, which is a sovereign state with defined borders, cannot raise claims to Haifa and Jaffa, while as a Palestinian, I can undoubtedly demand Haifa, Jaffa, Beer-Sheva and Jerusalem. However, the moment we reclaim our right to all of Palestine, we will not wait even a minute to unite Palestine and Jordan." The solution may well be two states. But it would be due to the present circumstances, not to a hastily conceived “history” which denies the Jewish historic connection and rights to the land.
51. # 26 Hameed - Thank you!
(01.31.12)
52. hamas
ltrail ,   USA   (05.04.12)
Hamas, the poor orphan child of criminals. Just fall on your own sword
53. #48 Same Applies??
ltrail ,   USA   (05.05.12)
Doesn't really apply. Sorry for your mistake. Lol.
54. We need a campaign
Steve from Raleigh   (05.23.12)
That gets the word out to all the Arabs and Muslims that Hamas is working for Israel. That they're more Zionist than the Zionists.
55. To sarah "Very Werll Spoken
Jacob ,   Monaco   (05.30.12)
Very well spoken , and perfect way of seeing things , unfortunately palis could never understand such common sense for many reasons but the most obvious one is : Their jealously and envy burning inside them towards our accomplishments and civilized way of life !
56. jameel Gaza
Moragh   (07.13.12)
Get a life jameel of Gaza. Your'e talking nonsense and you know it!
57. Pierre Lebanon @ 32
Moragh   (07.13.12)
May I suggest you purchase an Encyclopedia Book No. 1 and from there you will see on page 428 where you should go to read all about so-called Palestine land whereby Palestine was never a Part of what is Israel and has always belonged to Israel from Day One. You and your "brothers" you and your brothers were on ly passing through Israel.... decided you wanted the Land and started your trouble-making. You people are a total waste of precious time!
58. jameel gaza no 22
LION OF JUDAH ,   QUDS AL YAHUDI   (07.19.12)
You are one million percent wrong. The Jews in Israel not occupying 1 cm of anyone lands. The land of Israel belong to the Jews even before Islam was invented in Saudi Arabia. Read your quran and pay attention. You Arabs & muslims dont love life but you love death and you are proud of it. Islam not peaceful religion but rather violence, ruthless, blood thirsty nation. Islam are the most racist religion on earth, and I will prove it. How many Synagogues & Churches in Saudi Arabia? Can a Christian or a Jew practice their religion in Saudi Arabia? Are Jews allowed in Mecca ? Islam destroyed thousands of Synagogues in the Arab/Muslims world. You have burnt the Torah,Bible, Sefer Torah, teffilin, and Jewish religious things. Islam is currupt religion and twisters. No way Islam love peace. I think I will stop here, as I dont want to shame you more.
59. to 32
marcos ,   australia   (11.19.12)
sad history book you have, missed out the beginnig from Abraham and isaak and the other fellow Ishmail - you may have heard of him Abraham paid to bury his wife there, right slap bang in the middle, and thats where jews have lived and dies for 6000 years.
60. To #26. Terrific Post. Well Said and Explained.
Izzman ,   USA / Israel   (01.14.13)
End. Izzman
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