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Navy's new super-sub revealed
Udi Etsion
Published: 22.02.12, 21:03
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1. Deterrence is necessary but not always sufficient
Joe ,   Canada   (02.22.12)
Since nobody can foresee what might go through the fanatic minds of the bloody Ayatollahs should they be on the verge of loosing on their hold on power, deterrence might not stop them from some genocidal armaggedon which is part of the thinking of some of them who promote the death wish of "martyrdoom". The only sufficient way to avoid such a scenario is to prevent them from acquiring the means to execute it. The nuclear subs are not a sure fire tool to intimidate those who are of the type who believe in "Gott mit uns". The indiscreminate killings that Iranians (& Syrians) inflict on their own people when challenged (even peacefully) should keep us alert at what they could commit on an even larger scale against what they perceive as greater external threats. The recent Iranian threat of a preemptive strike could just be part of psychologic warfare or an indication of its state of readiness based on unknown weapons at Iran"s disposal.
2. Freely DONATED by Germany, who Israelis love to hate.
Zak ,   Belgium   (02.22.12)
In Iran, they BUILD their own subs..In Israel, the BEG for their subs..So ya tell me, in a war situation, who's more likely to last longer?? Israelis like to brag about how strong an army they have..At least learn to build your own war tools and stop begging for them..An puleeeeeeeeeeees, don't insult Germans..We've always been saving your ass everytime you're in trouble..
3. IRAN IS THANKFUL FOR THE INFORMATION.
AVI ,   JERUSALEM   (02.22.12)
SO THE QUESTION IS WHEN IS THE ACTION DAY.
4. As Sarah B. always says:
Israeli 2   (02.22.12)
"Be afraid....be VERY afraid. Don't mess around with Israel. That great lady must know of what she speaks. Where are Persian Cat and Mahmood?
5. Can't beat German engineering, no sir.
Henry from New York ,   USA   (02.22.12)
6. I stopped reading the article when I encountered
seadog1946 ,   in transit   (02.22.12)
the actually quite true phrase... "acoustic signature virtually undetectable by radar. "
7. #2 - Actually the mayor of Kiel begs for Israeli business.
Henry from New York ,   USA   (02.22.12)
The production of subs for Israel means jobs and money for people in the city of Kiel. They are more than happy to have some business.
8. #2 Flugin flegan flagen flogen!
Zionoid Entity ,   Occupied Kanata   (02.22.12)
Guttenyom, Germany built these subs at a discount because they supplied Saddam Hussein with the weapons that targeted Israel....because killing 6 million wasn't enough. Spare me the Euro nonesense. You like the continent better today without Jews? No Einsteins No Freuds just economic failure and Islamic extremism.
9. #2
Alice ,   Montreal, Canada   (02.22.12)
Can you please tell me when did the word came to the rescue of Israel. Stop braging. Israel has a sure friend, The Almighty G-d . He will help her achieve Victory.
10. Belgium cowards which were overrun
Isac   (02.22.12)
by the Krauts during WW II in two days are complaining about Israel's feisty strugle against 100's of millions of fanatical Muslims? You got some nerve pischer!
11. The Submarine and Purim is arriving soon
Isac   (02.22.12)
and history will be indeed interesting again since it involves once again the Jews and the Persians! Remember, that looong time ago a Persian leader wanted to kill all the Jews in Persia and he ended up being killed himself along with his dear friends and families. Today's Mullah's come somewhat to my mind therefore. Watch out Iran your fate may be sealed Already!
12. Seadog.....TBD?
Ron G. ,   U.S.A.   (02.22.12)
13. Who Wins and Who Loses?
Noah Lev ,   LosAngelesUSA   (02.22.12)
All of this expense thanks to Iran's consistent threats to "wipe the Zionist state off the map". Most recently, "its a cancer and can be destroyed in *9* minutes.These are coming from the Supreme Leader/miliary chiefs, not your average Joe Tehran. Okay, so either Its MAD (both sides will refrain from using nukes), or one pre-empts ( Iran's policy stated openly is to strike first). Sooooo, when will the US/Israel/EU/West make the big decision to take out Iran's nukes, and thus save it more devastation? Any one sub can reduce Iran to a piece of glass.its people really now in history. Some say, Iran's regime is careful, not rigid and not irresponsble. Some said the same about Hitler. Get it. If Iran strikes first, 3m dead..Israel's retaliation, 30m. Who is the loser and who is the winner?
14. Remember this, #2 Zak
Vlad   (02.22.12)
Germany does not donate, it partially subsidizes the construction. And thats the German way of bribing Israel to shut up about Germany's warm relations and covert trade with Iran.
15. Radar?
Jason Voorheese ,   Crystal Lake, USA   (02.22.12)
Is that a mistake - is it supposed to be "sonar"?
16. #2 zak
solomon ,   bklyn   (02.22.12)
Iran not only builds its own subs, it built a better anti aircraft missile system than even the ones the Russians refused to sell them (and only a short time after the refusal), reverse engineered the US drone, and oh so many other engineering marvels (especially those that are better than those systems they could not acquire, all built a short time after they learned they weren't getting them). Amazing! (Yea, right...)
17. #6
Eaglebeak ,   Left Coast, USA   (02.22.12)
Yes, all subs acoustic signatures are undetectable by radar. Now sonar is a different story. The statement was true but it sounds like the editor of the story was asleep at the switch. Rather funny actually.
18. Zak: Take another hit from your bong
Shep ,   Memphis   (02.23.12)
You sound like a grade A idiot.
19. as#11 said
daniela ,   panama   (02.23.12)
Purim is coming, and one of the most interesting thing about this festivity is the name Esther that means ¨concealed¨ in hebrew. As concealed where the miracles that happend in Persia.. Now there is another concealed thing... the sub.. hope the modern day Haman dinejead will soon find what is the meaning of Purim and the new Esther under water
20. #2: Zak...if Israel had 6,000,000 more Jews...
Jack ,   San Diego, USA   (02.23.12)
... they would not need Germany; not now, not ever! Jews know very well that they have to be independent as you Germans have very well taught them that "Arbeit Macht Frei".
21. Israelite history
ProphetS ,   USA   (02.23.12)
The historical Jews (Israelites) under Joshua battled, defeated and killed 30 something Kings that were enemies of the Jews. Their kingdoms were also destroyed by the Israelites. Modern Jews would also be invincible if they had not strayed away from their G_d. Nowadays Jews are secular and know nothing about their true calling. If only they knew how much latent power they really have ...
22. Zak Taqiya comes to you naturally The haters in this world
PETER SM ,   AUSTRALIA   (02.23.12)
are Islamists who abuse German freedoms to radicalise groups like the 9/11 martyrs. We respect the honourable way Germany has behaved since the war.Unlike the brothers in the Moslem SS divisions. The new Nazis are Islamists Check it out on www.religionofpeace.com Or MEMRI and at least stop lying to yourselves and stop all the murders and blame shifting You have a lot to learn from Germany!
23. It looks like the Mulladhs want to try it!
Alexander B. ,   David, Panama   (02.23.12)
24. To: No. 2
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (02.23.12)
No, the simple truth of the matter is that Germany should be quite grateful that Israel is willing to pay. Think of all the confiscated art (most of which has not been restored to the rightful owners); think of all the insurance policies that big German insurers that sold whole life policies to desperate Jews -- no premia; all cash up front -- and which the German insurance companies refuse to honor to this day; think of the confiscated businesses, homes and six million massacred Jews. You're the ones who have caused all the trouble. Why shouldn't you be held accountable for your crimes?
25. #2 is a little uninformed
david ,   new york   (02.23.12)
firstly, a dolphin class submarine is an entirely different type of vessel than the the midget submarines iran makes. those submarines are useful for terrorist attacks but not for nuclear deterrance. BTW: israel has probably one of the most developed domestic arms manufacturing industries including aircraft, missile boats, tanks, antimissile defense etc. etc. i think its pretty evident that israel's arms development far outclasses iran's
26. sub
azriel ,   bsas argentina   (02.23.12)
yeah! the iranian build a piece of junk!
27. #13 Noah, Israel cannot lose 3 million even if 30
(02.23.12)
million iranians are killed, not proportional. It would not be worth losing 3000 Jews if 300 million irianians died as you would be losing 3000 decent people for millions of people who believe in killing Jews. NOT proportional. If it comes to war, then every Jewish life is precious, not to be wasted and every iranian who wants to kill Jews is just collateral damage.
28. Zak - Germany owes an unpayable debt
Rich ,   LA, USA   (02.23.12)
You Germans had better always be offering asistance to Israel - considering the eternal debt which your country owes the Jews of the world. How pathetic your remarks are...disgusting.
29. Way to go Navy... IDF... Israel...
Batman ,   Gotham, City   (02.23.12)
... Let the mullahs know what is waiting for them and ali baba nasrallah show his pig face above ground...
30. FYI, Israel forgave Germany in record time
BUTSeriously ,   Sydney   (02.23.12)
for history's gravest crime, and has open relations. Yet we find 20% of Germans hate Jews. So who has the problem, you or Germany?
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