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MK Eichler: Reform Jews anti-Semites
Omri Efraim
Published: 03.03.12, 09:00
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1. Remove his immunity; Allow Slander action
tf ,   herzliya il   (03.03.12)
This is out of control the constant refrain of anti-Semitism from the Haredim and far right. Make no mistake there are plenty of Jewish anti-Semites. but they are not running the Jewish state. It is time these reprobates are held accountable for their incitement and rhetoric.
2. "Reform Jews are worse than our enemies"
Charles   (03.03.12)
So this guy literally hates everyone who isn't exactly like himself. Can anyone say "civil war"?
3. Reformed Jews Helped Build Israel
leo ,   nyc   (03.03.12)
Dear Ignorant MK: Check back and see how many secular Jews (even less religious than Refomed Jews) helped build the State of Israel starting back even befor the Mandate period--and check the religious status of many of the past PMs. You would not be standing in the Knesset were it not for them!
4. Dear Mr. Eichler
Raptor   (03.03.12)
When you are the "Semite" then I am "anti".
5. United torah judaism,another curse on Jews,on Israel
Yossi   (03.03.12)
led by a fanatic, revulsive . Threatning Tzipi Hotouly (she would pay for her action) is the normal behavior of this worthless, godless clan. His words are shameful?, NO rabbi Kariv, they are wordy of a Taliban. Don't be worry Tzipi, his popularity has plunged into the toilet right now. Why are these characters, these rejects, always so ugly?.
6. Again something negative ! Shame on you !
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (03.03.12)
And such people want us to respect them ? He is one of those who tries to impose his way of life , but also insults other Jews who are not charidim . Do you know this Mr MK : ve'eahavta et re'echa kamocha ? Well for me you are not my "re'echa" , you showed me an ugly face , and you dare to call yourself "religious" ! SHAME on you .
7. An anti-Semite is someone who hates Jews.
Avishai ,   Tel Aviv   (03.03.12)
An anti-Semite is someone who hates Jews. MK Yisrael Eichler hate Reform Jews by his own words. So MK Yisrael Eichler is, what exactly???
8. Bravo Eichler!
Aurora Aronsson ,   Lund, SE   (03.03.12)
He is right! The Reform movement has lead to mass assimilation and to the disappearance of millions of Jews since its beginnings. Even its founder's (Moses Mendelsohn) grandchildren were all baptised Catholics.
9. Who is reforming what
Miche Norman ,   Hod Hasharon Israel   (03.03.12)
Eichler belongs to a sect which has reformed the 10 commandments into 8, thou shalt not steal and thou shalt not covert that which is not yours have been reformed out of the belief system of the obsurantist sect thathe belongs to whose sole aim seems to be to make the Jewish faith something that is anathma to the majority of Secular Israelis, who associate Judaism with theft, an unhealthy obsession with sex and a complete absence of morals. Reform Judaism on the other hand has brought many Jews back into the fold and is much closer to Jewish values than the sex obsessed obscurantists.
10. @9, U took ALL my words. B Blessed!
hot snow ,   tlv   (03.03.12)
eichler is a classic definition of a FANATIC, full stop.
11. disgusting
Larry ,   Los Angeles   (03.03.12)
I, as a charadi, resent calling Reform Jews anti-semetic. I would refer to them as lacking in knowledge of the Torah or not performing all the mitzvot, but anti-semetic, that is plain ignoramous mixed with smugness. as for number 3, reform jewry were definitely against identifying with Israel. Even up to and including the six day war when several 'temples' came out with a blood drive for the Arabs victims. Then a change occured when they realized that the youth did identify with Israel, so in order to hold the young kids who were leaving reform faster than a mouse that sees a cat, they changed their platform to embrace Israel. Remember, they were afraid of the goiyim thinking that they did support Israel over America; that also changed. That is the problem with reform, they keep changing with the times.
12. Eichler is right!
H. ,   Jerusalem   (03.03.12)
Reform Jews are our enemies.
13. Those who milk the state,and refuse to
J.K. ,   Brooklyn USA   (03.03.12)
help to carry the load,are antisemites,the haredim are the erev rav (those who hitch a ride on the back of others) of today.
14. Reform Jews provided Israel,$ 60 million
J.K. ,   Brooklyn USA   (03.03.12)
in 48,enabling Israel to buy arms,that saved the young state,what did the eichlers do?.
15. # 7 Who is an Antisemite?.
J.K. ,   Brooklyn USA   (03.03.12)
Avishai ! Anybody who works against the interests of Israel is an Antisemite,the satmars,the crazy left,and the eichlers.
16. MK Yisrael Eichler you are your own worst enemy
Haim ,   TA   (03.03.12)
MK Yisrael Eichler it is people like you that turn jews away from religion.
17. Some Reform facts
Gary ,   Columbus USA   (03.03.12)
I'm glad Larry fromLA finds him "disgusting" but for the record: the Reform movement embraced Zionism in 1936 in its statements of principles (while Chareidi Orthodoxy railed against it); it was Reform Rabbi Abba Hillel Silver and Reform Rabbi Stephen Wise who led the American Zionist movement and presented the motion for the establishment of the state at the UN. Of course, there is ARZA, the movement for Reform Zionism and Aliyah. I could go on and on, but to call Reform Jews anti-Semites is the very definition of lashon
18. # 17 Gary ! The eichlers are afraid of Reform
J.K. ,   Brooklyn USA   (03.04.12)
like the devil of the holy spirit.
19. Eichler is an idiot for saying that, but...
Jewish girl ,   UK   (03.04.12)
Reform Judaism is slowly ensuring the destruction of the Jewish religion through watering it down and changing the fundamental laws of Judaism to whatever they fancy at that moment, like not having a kosher kitchen at the synagogue or making women wear a kippa. this is just wrong. . I am not at all religious and completely against hadrat nashim, but can see the very clear and present danger that is Reform Judaism. Sorry, you're either Jewish or you're not.
20. oy such a dysfunctional family we are
avramele   (03.04.12)
As a zionist and a free jew who acknowleges my debt to many streams and traditions it saddens me when any of us write off our ideological foes. A bit of humility and civility would help as at the end of the day we share both a common past and whether we like it or not a common future and fate.
21. #11 Larry
JDE ,   Boston, USA   (03.04.12)
Try reading a history book instead of listening to your rebbe.
22. @ 8 Aurora ! Who financed the absorbtion
J.K. ,   Brooklyn USA   (03.04.12)
of millions of Jews into the New state of Israel ?.ceartainly, not the eichlers.
23. Some real Reform facts
Moe ,   NJ, USA   (03.04.12)
#17 - I agree this Haredi guy is plain out his own worst enemy, however, you mentioned 'Stephen Wise' Let me present you with a few quotes of S Wise's wonderful deeds, regarding the Holocaust rescues: "Authors David Wyman and Rafael Medoff, in their book A Race Against Death: Peter Bergson, America, and the Holocaust, make a further allegation that Wise displayed a lack of leadership that hindered the Holocaust rescue attempts of others.[14] He is also alleged to have advised President Franklin Roosevelt not to meet with the 400 Orthodox Rabbis that marched on Washington in 1943 and to have attempted to squelch the broadcast of "We Will Never Die", which sought to bring attention to the slaughter of Jews in Europe" (see Wiki) "Rabbi Kestenbaum provided what may be the most damning evidence yet of Stephen Wise’s treacherous actions. Rabbi Kestenbaum stated that Wise phoned his father, Rabbi David Kestenbaum, on several occasions, telling him that he should stop putting so much pressure on the U.S. government to save European Jews. "Rabbi Kestenbaum told of how, on one occasion, he took a message for his father from Wise who told him, “Tell your father that he has to be an American and not to to fight hard for Jews in Europe. You have to be an American first.”
24. 21 learn before you speak...
Larry ,   Los Angeles   (03.04.12)
sorry, bub, I am an old man, I remember history plus I have studied much also. You obviously don't know that reform movement did not want to identify with the state until after the six day war.
25. Charidim vs reform
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (03.04.12)
Charidim opposed the State of Israel too . They also betrayed the Zionist movement in Russia , telling the czarist police about the Zionists activities. [ Martin van Creveld ; the land of blood and honey ] But all those acts , of both sides , are past history . Let's better see the situation today . The reform have their plus [ Jews remain , even a little bit , Jewish thanks to them . They are supporting Israel , contribute to the state . They don't want to impose their lifestyle on others . A minus , their "conversions" , To be a Jew needs more than a piece of paper . My position regarding the charidim is known , no need to tell it again .
26. Rabbi Eichler is right 100 percent!
Vladimir ,   Yerushalayim   (03.04.12)
All reform movements are dangerous for their religions. And in the case of Judaism they endangerous the very existence of the Jewish people. History proved it - you won't find a 3rd generation reformer. Reform is a receipt for assimilation of the Jews.
27. #20, The healing may start after a total demise of Orthodox.
Michael ,   California, USA   (03.04.12)
Orthodox Jewish organized religion has been the curse for thousands of years. Let it disappear and allow religious Jews breathe with relief. The need is urgent and no "civility" will accomplish anything.
28. # 23 Stephen Wise and Rosenman,
J.K. ,   Brooklyn USA   (03.04.12)
2 of Roosevelt's Hoff Yude, who were afraid to rock the boat by helping European Jews,lest they too would be placed in concentration camps,they will be forever be remembered as traytors and cowards,Nachum Goldman too,said later : yadanu veshataknu (we knew bur remained silent,given England's dependence on the USA Roosevelt could have pressured England to open it's doors for the persecuted Jews of Europe and place them,in it's vast Empire,but as Nachum Goldman said,we were numb,the Reform movement should be judged by what it did for Israel from 48 to this very day.
29. # 11 Indeed ,disgusting,
J.K. ,   Brooklyn USA   (03.04.12)
at least the Reform movement saw the light,you can't say that about the eichlers,the irony is,that the opponents of Theodor Herzel to the return to Zion, were the assimilated Reform Jews and the hasidic rebbes,B Gurion writes in his memoir that he was arrested by the Tzar's police, for Zionist activities, and he believes he was denounced by the followers of the rebbe of gur,a haredi Rav Y Miler, complained aganst the rebbe of satmar,y Teitelbaum that Rabbi Teitelbaum is responsible for the death of his daughter and her family,his daughter lived in Transilvania in 44 under German control, she lived 10 Km from the Romanian border,when the Germans took full control of hungary,many Jews croosed the border into relative savety in Romania,rabbi Tetelbaum told his followers,no need to flee,no need to cross the border,Salvation is on the way,as an anti Zionist, the rebbe was concerned his followers will emigrate from Romania to than Palestine (even during the war ships sailed to than palestine) Rabbi Miler's daughter followed rabbi Teitelbaums advise, and was killed by the Germans at Auschwitz,Rabbi Teitelbaum imposed on the haredi Jews of Transilvania his Anti Zion philosophy with tragic consequenses.
30. Reform Jews antisemites?
Eli ,   Israel   (03.04.12)
Eichler? Did God die and leave you and your ilk boss? You are a bunch of misogynistic ranting fanatics who have taken Judaism and made it into a sick cult of people with no moral sense; interested only in what people wear and eat. Whatever universal message there may be in Judaism, you have repressed it. You are morally repugnant to any thinking person with a sense of fairness and justice. You do not speak for Judaism; you've perverted it.
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