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Will US rescue Israeli pilots?
Ron Ben-Yishai
Published: 06.03.12, 09:00
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1. I hope diplomacy succeeds against Iran RIGHT ???
M.S. ,   mpls america   (03.06.12)
Sure Israel may be able to target certain nuclear facilitys in Iran but would the world thank Israel and or condemn Israel as a possible bully aggressor then there still is Syria Israel should realize there are time limits dead lines to solving problems in 1938 the U K the calendar direction the power of time prevented Jews from saving their own fellow Jews who died in W W II Europe traped in a foreign environment that decided they would no longer allow them to live there today there are five 5 million Arab Muslims living in France Iran has 80 million Arab Muslims Syria 23 million tiny Israel as a mere 6 million Jews called Israelis since 1948 the odds surely are against Jews Israel thus consider more wisely any military action Southern Lebanon in 2006 the Gaza in 2008 9 10 consider all angles all possibilities ALL A L L RIGHT Moses had 1 way to go 1938 6 million Jews had 1 way to go consider carefully all angles in March 2012 these are times when wisdom must prevail 2013 14 15 16 Obama as president and or a Republican then there is Russia Putin then the U K then France so on 1889 1917 1938 48 56 67 73 2012 oil gold diamonds water land food so many things space how to advance science I suggest you Jews Israelis be very careful I prefer a limited border war with Hezbollah Syria before I would venture any military TOO FAR action against Iran RIGHT I hope you agree with this strategy divided Jews Israelis are what the world wants Egypt Syria Libya you see life for divided Arabs this is hardly what Jews Israelis want RIGHT 2012 may be the last year for a good plan to work TIME TIME ISRAEL TIME you do not have years decades any more LUCKY IF YOU HAVE MONTHS RIGHT ??? Thank You... M. S.
2. Oh, for pity's sake!
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (03.06.12)
The United States couldn't even rescue American pilots in that pathetic attempt to free American hostages held in Iran. Remember those pictures of Iranian mullahs kicking and otherwise defiling the corpses of American servicemen? Those Americans have never been repatriated, by the way. The absolute best thing that the United States can do is stay the hell out of Israel's way. Unlike the United States, Israel actually knows what its doing, and how best to get the job done, Islamist in the White House notwithstanding. JUST STAY OUT OF OUR WAY!
3. To # 2
Abdel Karim Salim ,   Jerusalem   (03.06.12)
Hey , just wait a minute . Israel is nothing without the US . Always keep in mind the generous financial help Israel gets from America each year . And most of your IDF weapons, especially the tanks and fighter aircraft ,are US-made weapons . Although Israel excels in some fields of electronics it surely can not survive all alone on its own .
4. Maybe they should be allowed to make a tiny bomb?
Yossi   (03.06.12)
Sanctions are not achieving their objectives? Should we wait another year or two in order to see verifiable results?. AH !, once more the Iranians are willing to sit at the negociating table?; to be streched (as usual) until they have achieved their " ultimate " - the coveted bomb?, like N.Korea's masterful negociations -- having a Bomb and a blackmail arsenal today. Obama's position < weakness, stupidity or both >; let's show them maximal consideration and goodwill in order to produce a positive atmosphere --- Just like the Russian did with Hitler up to the day of his onslaught on Stalin's worthless army. Bibi, your steadfast approach will decide the survival of our country.
5. to #3
adam ,   israel   (03.06.12)
you are very wrong, israel can and will attack if it must, ps nearly all israeli weapons are made in israel including certain a/c and missles as well as all tanks used by the idf, hence the israeli made merkava, israel Purchases these planes with non sufficient and symbolic help, most of us military aid goes into R and D. As has been proven since 1948 israel can and will survive on its own
6. What? Will US rescue Israeli pilots?
Israeli 2   (03.06.12)
This is an analysis by the great Ron ben Yishai? Thanks Ron. The Iranians couldn't have a better laugh. I wonder whose side you are on anyway? Thinking so little about Israeli pilots?
7. Abdel Merkava is Israeli. Israel stopped building fighters
PETER SM ,   AUSTRALIA   (03.06.12)
under US pressure. Israel only recives a tiny fraction of its budget as military aid. Where would your brothers be without EU/US/UN handouts? Probably at the peace table. PS Israel is among the top exporters of military technology including missiles,drones etc BTW Israel had minimal US military aid prior to 67.; PPS How much Iranian techniology is imported? How much is photo shop?
8. Will US rescue Israeli pilots?Israel does its own fighting !
PETER SM ,   AUSTRALIA   (03.06.12)
9. To #5
Patippe ,   US   (03.06.12)
No your very wrong, you should remember the war in 2006, 33 days and the world watched the failure of the Israeli army and it was with the help of USA ! Stop this muscles show off and face it, USA is helping a lot Israel financially and with weapons as well, be a little bit thankful ! Don't forget Iran is not Hezbollah, Iran is 80 times bigger then Israel + it has a lot of known and unknown advanced weapons ! Now sure as everyone from Israel will replies : "Oh, we have nukes, we can nuke them", Yes indeed you can but they will nuke you back ! They have nukes like it or not and all your chemical sites + Demona will be targets as well. I don't like Obama but for the first time he is doing something good ! Stop calling for useless wars that could bring destruction on jews !
10. no, Patippe is in error
Gordon Sinclair ,   Canada   (03.06.12)
Who is this that speaks without knowledge and passes himself as someone? It might be best Patippe for you to think a bit and do your homework before you type such foolish talk. The war of 2006 was won hands down by Israel and by Israel alone. And Mrs Patippe is now saying this was done with the help of the US? The only thing the US did was try and stop what Israel was doing. Your biggest mistake Mrs Patippe is moaning about Israel calling for wars. Permit me to say it this way, if we had your type of thinking at the beginning of WW1 & 2, we would all be eating sausages and have no need of barbers. Go take a long walk somewhere!!!
11. Agree with #3 and #9
Daniel Breslauer ,   Gateshead, UK   (03.06.12)
Abdel and Patippe speak the truth. These plans are very dangerous, and indeed, Israel couldn't survive for a day without US support. Not only actual, direct military / financial support - but how about the US always bailing Israel out at the UNSC with vetos whenever needed? Without the US protecting Israel in the UNSC, there would have been a UN peacekeeping force in Israel / Palestine years ago already and Israel would have lost its independence altogether. As for the Iranian problem, I think focusing on covert operations and on missile defense (ie, the Arrow, Iron Dome, and other such systems) rather than on full-scale offensive strikes which could trigger a regional war.
12. #9 Patippe, USA
Albrecht Klein ,   Germany   (03.06.12)
Does the expression "Great Satan" mean anything to you?
13. To: No. 3
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (03.06.12)
Hey, just wait a minute! Last I checked, the Merkava is Israeli. Yes, the United States sells fighter aircraft to Israel. Those sales all carry a back-end provision which requires Israel to share any and all improvements and modifications. Those improvements and modifications have been legion and have always been shared. Israel can survive quite nicely on its own -- and with the philanthropic gifts of Jews throughout the world. It isn't as if anyone is throwing money down the deep dark black hole which is the Arab and Moslem world, you know?
14. Abdel Karim # 3
Eaglebeak ,   Left Coast, USA   (03.06.12)
I wouldn't say that Israel is all alone. They have the God of Israel behind them and they will survive.
15. This sentence...
Devorah   (03.06.12)
"Obama believes the talks should be held while showing maximal consideration and goodwill in the aims of producing a positive atmosphere." My response is a Vedic quotation: "If something happens once it may never happen again. If it happens twice it will certainly happen a third time." How many times has the BIG STALL happened? I have lost count. And now, Israel is expected to agree with Obama's "maximal consideration," "goodwill" and "positive atmosphere" toward Iran? What a damn slap in the face!
16. Correct, Net has come to coordinate a great..........
Cameron ,   USA   (03.06.12)
many details with Obama. There is just no avoiding the cold fact that any success in resolving this Persian issue is dependent upon US effort, and active cooperation with the Yanks on every level. Net & wise Israelis recognize this reality, and tailor their plans around it.
17. ton#11 Let the u.n. sent its "peacekeeping"
jason white ,   afula,israel   (03.06.12)
forces here. We can use the target practice. Maybe the next POTUS will have the U.S. leave the u.n. and kick the bastards out of New York.
18. To #10
Patlippe ,   US   (03.06.12)
I didn't know that my comment will be that much disturbing, i'm glad it did disturb you Mr Gordon :) I didn't understand the part where you attacked me verbally, and you didn't provide any analysis justifying your comments but anyway ! Anyway, whether you like or not Mr Gordon, USA decides and you do, it obvious and clear and you can whine about it as much as you want but it won't change ! I noticed that all the people who are calling for Israel to take action against Iran doesn't even live in Israel. It's very easy for you Mr Gordon to come barking for war in here since in case of the war you will be probably sitting with a beer in your hand in front of the news watching the people dying in Israel ! So please when you want to post a comment, use your logic not hatred words !
19. Thank you #11
Patlippe ,   US   (03.06.12)
For being reasonable !
20. #16
israel israeli ,   tel aviv   (03.06.12)
You are right. Israel cannot resolve the issue by itself, only the US can. If Israel acts alone, it is a desperate act that everyone realizes will fail in the long run. Obama, being both racist and stupid, was outmaneuvered by the far-smarter Ahmadinejad. Now, Obama must strike Iran to protect Saudi Arabia a critical American interest. But if he does, he will be called as a Jew-supporter (a legacy he fears more than any American interest) and that oil prices will go up just in time to ruin his chance of re-election.
21. To #20
Patlippe ,   US   (03.06.12)
As #11 mentioned in his post, USA was a great supporter to Israel and it will always be, the facts are the numbers of vetoes used in the UN. I can understand if your against USA policy or Mr Obama but the truth should be spoken !
22. They are already here.
Jim ,   Iran   (03.06.12)
I will offer one way ticket to Iran for all Jew-hater.. Israel Air force will take care of you and your nuclear site.
23. 2 0 that was an Israeli inquiry not US offering
Abe   (03.06.12)
if this was the case, why would Israeli officials request it? You are living in your own world, enjoy..
24. I just want you to know...Obama isn't going to do anything!
Steven Wilson ,   Anchorage, Alaska   (03.06.12)
He is Jimmy Carters twin brother. Useless. He just wants free travel....Free Golf.....and a free ride.
25. #2 Abdel
Danny ,   Tel-Aviv   (03.06.12)
Those Israeli tanks you see are Israeli Merkava tanks, designed and made in the Jewish state.....your statement that Israel is nothing without the US is not true considering we are the 4th largest arms supplier in the world....what would the Arabs be without foreign military aid??? Lets see what you guys can produce...
26. Restraint is not weakness
MarcV ,   Miami, FL USA   (03.06.12)
I generally don't support Obama but in this instance he has a point. The way to effectively prevent a nuclear Iran is to get them to agree it is not in their best interest. Unless strikes are accompanied by regime change---something Israel couldn't even do in Lebanon, attacking too early will just rally Iranians around the regime and make them much likely to rush a new nuclear program. Let the sanctions toughen to the point that the "green movement" has a chance to reach the tipping point and remove the radical theocracy in Iran.
27. #2 sArAh B
Harold ,   USA   (03.06.12)
Go and bomb Iran and wait for the results. Please don't knock the US taxpayers' doors for aid and military help. Just do it yourself. Period.
28. To all commentators
Harold ,   USA   (03.06.12)
Your comments are not helpful for Israel. It will be a huge disaster for Israel if it bombs Iran. Israel knows the results and that is why it is building special shelters for its people. Iran had a big lesson from the eight years war with Iraq and that is the reason for building a huge military power that can resist any attack from anywhere.
29. #13 Merkava
Harold ,   USA   (03.06.12)
Merkava is made in Israel using its most important parts made in Germany.
30. SARAH,NO ONE HAS OBSTRUCTED....#2
MAHMOOD ,   LONDON-UK   (03.06.12)
Your way so far.All of us have been weaiting for the last six years for you to act.When you very well know you can't make a move without the USA having to bear the brunt,you ask them to 'stay away'?How can you do that Sarah?Who is gone to Washington to plead with Obama?
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