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Leading double life in ultra-Orthodox world
Tali Farkash
Published: 10.03.12, 08:40
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31. Go to Aish HaTorah in Jerusalem: they've answers to most que
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questions. They also have a really cool assortment of other seekers: artists, doctors, surfers, cartoonists, physicists, architects...and some confused Haredim too who missed out on the q & a session growing up. All types. All welcome. Try it. If your wife can't get with the program and you can't reach her heart with counseling, talking earnestly, etc....divorce if you must...but you said it yourself: it's the LOVE that's the main thing lacking. So...find it elsewhere in the Haredi world. There are loads of Baalot teshuvah -- women who would be awed with your lifestyle and knowledge of tradition and customs who would love you truly and love where you come from...who would wear the l'vush happily too, with you as their guide...and who would probably love your children too. THEN you would have love, not be ostracised and still have your children. Trying to help.
32. Babishka
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (03.11.12)
It's easier to accept for a secular that a child becomes charidi , than for a charidi to accept a child becoming secular . The same for the society you live in . I've seen it with a faraway family , they became secular and were rejected by his parents and brothers . Sometimes they even sit shiva . Fine that you accept that some of your children live a modern life .
33. It's a tough road to walk......
Baal Tshuvah ,   Ny NY   (03.11.12)
I come from a family of Orthodox Jewish Grandparents, ZTL, and parents who were mesoratee but definitely off the path, ZTL. I totally understand Hareedim who "go off the path".... Like any part of society, every sect of Jews has their deficits and positive attributes. Don't lose faith in Hashem...perhaps getting away from the Haredim will allow you to seek G-d in your own way? Whatever, I don't judge you...I hope that you will find happiness, contentment, and shalom bayit and nefesh...no matter what path you take!
34. Edith Ann - That's news to me
BEN JABO ,   ISRAEL   (03.11.12)
I didn't know you had a heart
35. @33 Do you REALLY understand??
AF-22 ,   Tel aviv   (03.11.12)
I believe that you are sincere and that you mean well. But the man clearly states that he is a secular Atheist who does not believe in ANY kind of god. Why would you then say "don't lose faith in hashem" or "seek god in your own way"?? Don't you think that it's a bit condescending? This whole article circulates around his non belief, yet you decide to completely ignore his words and pretend he didn't say them at all. If you told me you were Jewish and I said "yeah I know you're a Jew but please don't EVER forget that Jesus died for your sins"... don't you think that would be a tiny bit arrogant? If you "totally understand" him, the least you can do is respect his ability to form his own opinion, instead of dismissing it.
36. and you do ??? I daunt think so
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37. #35 Yes, he does. He can read between the lines. This is a
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man that you can tell is in a turmoil or he'd have completely left. It is not just because of his family that he can't bear to sever ties to his religion, or he'd have done it. He is compelled by his desires, but wishes for his children to follow the same as they have been, or if he thought he'd stigmatize them in that community he would be only that much happier and closer to realizing his goal of "liberating" them by making Haredi life less tenable. By spending "hours sitting in his own corner" at Hebrew U library he had certainly discovered the internet...and it's version of the world and "love" (much freer and less inhibited women than his wife)-- and so he is following it. If he wished the same for his children he'd follow through and leave. Openly. He wishes his nanny to care for the children and raise them to standards that he cannot follow through on himself because of his own yetzer.
38. 37 I think this is a man,who...
ORA ,   JERUSALEM   (03.12.12)
in his childhood lacked mother love, therefore he is unstable.The story he told to Ynet is to take with a grain of salt. He needs sincere loving care, to be able to decide which way of life he really wants to lead.May G-D help him to find the right people to help him.
39. It's a figure of speech
Joseph ,   New York, US   (03.12.12)
In Yiddish this is a figure of speech to describe something you do all day, or most of the day. In fact, Yiddish is full of exaggerated figures of speech as there is a sarcastic undertone to it.
40. Yes # 7; you end up studying in your sleep!
Leon ,   Seattle USA   (03.13.12)
41. #10: You like to analyse people rather than understand them
leon ,   Seattle, USA   (03.13.12)
42. Loveless Arranged Marriages
leon ,   seattle, USA   (03.13.12)
If these haredim truly believe in their god, they would trust his plan for human propagation. The Universal Law -- or God's Grand Design, if you will -- centers around NATURAL selection. Men and women NATURALLY select the right mate for themselves with God's or natures invisible guiding hand. The reason opposites attract is because it balances traits in the couple's offspring. It is a process of continual human genetic improvement. However, the haredim, and their ilk the fanatic Muslims, usurp God's plan and try to replace God and the instinct he gave us for choosing our mates. This, as we have learned in recent centuries, results in inbreeding and its attendant disease infirmaties. Hey haredim, if you do a better job than God, why do YOUR marital unions result in Tay Sachs, and other genetic diseases? Well... I'm waiting.
43. #26 His sadness is from too much smarts, not too little love
leon ,   Seattle, USA   (03.13.12)
#26 Wrong. This man is disappointed and sad because he is simply too intelligent to go on with all the silly religious supersitition. I know because I feel the same way.
44. #33 Why is it important to "seek god"?
Leon ,   Seattle, USA   (03.13.12)
I am 52 and became an atheist on my own at age 9. I feel perfectly fulfilled this way. Now let me ask you: if there WERE a god ... don't you suppose he would feel unappreciated if he found out that we spent the scant 70-100 years he gave us of life -- thinking about the AFTERlife?
45. To #35: I wish I were as eloquent as you
Leon ,   Seattle, USA   (03.13.12)
46. #38 You WISH it's because of trauma rather than intelligence
Leon ,   Seattle, USA   (03.13.12)
47. 46 Leon,You may be a genius...
ORA ,   JERUSALEM   (03.13.12)
as at nine years,you knew better than the Lubavitsher Rebbe ,who made Tora and scientific studies.
48. in same sittuation
z ,   brooklyn   (04.24.12)
hey yanki im in the same spot i wish i can break off and go live a noremal fun life jewishufn2@gmail.com
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