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IDF document: Avoid media provocations
Yoav Zitun
Published: 17.04.12, 14:31
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31. Defence minister
Gady ,   Mexico DF   (04.17.12)
Eisner for Defence Minister. Or president.
32. What is the definition of Humans #10
Paul ,   Jerusalem   (04.17.12)
Like Syrians treat the opposition, like Shiites treat Sunnis, like Arab Muslims treat Christians, like Iran treats democratic reformers, like Christian Europe treated Jews??? This was justified and very human, and another shallow attempt to drag Jews to their enemy's level.
33. falling into the foreign media trap.
tiki ,   belgium   (04.17.12)
Is this reality or fiction. Are these War-Games or Purim-Spiel....it's neither! It's neither a Spiel, nor a Game, it's Reality and not Fiction. Soldiers are there to protect the country & their citizens. These foreigners are there only to "provoke, armed with their Arafat combat shawls & camera's. They should not be allowed to do so and be thrown out from Israel like a Gaza-rocket. That's the only language these braindead idiots understand. Media or not....if they want a trap, you can't stop them. They are war- paparazzi, getting paid in blood.
34. #19 edithann- no one believes anything you say - tata
solomon ,   bklyn   (04.17.12)
35. If we allow this media events to happen....
Yael Schlichting ,   Qiryat Motzkin   (04.17.12)
If we allow this media events to happen, we need to professionally handle the media: 1. No media at the immigration counters! When unwanted immigrants are escorted away from this area, nobody shall be able to present us these goofy photos! 2. The government must make clear, that it controls the country and that Judea and Samaria are under special rule which allows a little less and not a little more! Hence, I am wondering, how journalists who are accredited for Israel freely can move to behind the fence and twist facts there? I am wondering, why these journalists are not better controlled. I would not want total obstruction of freedom of press, but a freedom only goes so far until it compromises the other freedoms. We must see one thing: Men and women like Eisner are our people! We need to protect them and what happenes? We push them to the limit and then we abandon them to public bashing! Eisner and his colleagues are not trained to peacefully deal with these ar.....les What do we expect? Supermen and Supergirls?
36. #19 - I know I don't
William ,   Israel   (04.17.12)
37. This is the reason behind the IDF's decline
Naor ,   USA   (04.17.12)
Once Tzahal's soldiers were taught and trained to fight Israel's enemies. Today they are condemned by their own for doing so. Has the IDF become nothing more than a glorified baby sitter? Eisner should be commended for standing up for himself and his state!
38. #17 - In what direction?
William ,   Israel   (04.17.12)
We might have been losing in the court of public opinion, but when you finally get to courts and govt bodies where the rule of law exists - your entire narrative falls apart. If you only had to rely on convincing young, naive Leftists in Europe, then yes - you'd be a winner. But you have to convince the ICC, and intl lawmakers, and individual politicians of your claim but you keep getting tangled in Intl Laws which work against you (terrorism is NOT a human right) and trying to get people to forget the agreements your side has already signed. If we poll leaders today - the majority will say they support a 2-State solution. Ask them if they support a Pally State without negotiations with Israel, and you lose your majority quick. The ICC won't even hear war crimes accusations against Israel from you. Many times in the past when similar accusations were made in courts around the world, they were thrown out without haste. So you have a few angry Leftists and a media hungry for sensationalism. So what? After 64 years if that's all you have, and you're proud of that, then you truly are a sad bunch. I'd hold on dearly to that Jordanian Passport if I were you. You're going to need it.
39. #15 - probably already full of weapons
William ,   Israel   (04.17.12)
no room for ISM members.
40. #30 - it was stolen from Jews in 1949
William ,   Israel   (04.17.12)
I find it odd that you lambaste Israel for reclaiming this land but fully accept the 1949 ethnic cleansing and illegal annexation which was deemed a war crime by the UN and rejected by all countries except for Pakistan, Iraq, and the UK. Are you saying to use here - that you accept war crimes in certain circumstances? By the way, the ICC just ruled that Palestine is not a recognized nation. Therefore, your claim "show me a democratic country which occupies another nation" is farcical.
41. This wasn't "media", this was a "Palestinian" with a camera
William ,   Israel   (04.17.12)
Before these protests, ISM and Leftist NGOs hand out video cameras to people in order to capture every moment of the pre-planned confrontation, then heavily edit it and send it to the Internet immediately. It's not enough to avoid the cameras - that won't work. And it's not enough to have cameras from the IDF side capturing Leftist provocations. There needs to be an army of social media soldiers, capturing and disseminating information in real time, not just to Army YouTube channels but to many, many outlets. In the tech age, people have the attention span of a sand flea so we need to get to the gate first to grab public opinion, then hit them hard with facts they cannot dispute.
42. #7 Aussie - Far be it for you
BEN JABO ,   ISRAEL   (04.17.12)
to mention our alleged Apartheid, you have had enough of your own since the first Aussies landed, bringing the dregs of Englands prisons and whore houses to the shores of our own land Look at what you have done to your own aborignes before you lecture Next point, Muslim's are the foremost practiitioners of Apartheid, they refer to it as Dhimmi's or Dhimmitude “MUSLIM DHIMMITUDE” IS “APARTHEID” For well over a millennium, across three continents - Asia, Africa,and Europe - non-Muslims have experienced jihad war ideology, and its ugly corollary institution, Dhimmitude. Today, the debate among Muslim scholars regarding the theological "correctness" of "lesser" versus "greater" jihad are meaningless to the millions of non-Muslim victims- Christians, Jews, Zoroastrians, Hindus, and Buddhists Google this in your browser, give ma a body count when you're vinished "teligionofpeace"
43. New York Times and Amnesty Intl are not the world
Sidney ,   USA   (04.17.12)
The world doesn't give a damn about the Palestinians. Only in the Israeli media is this a major story. The Palestinians and their anti-Semitic friends are playing the Israeli media and government for suckers by having their little schemes treated as big deals.
44. #7 very bewildered (#13, #16)
solomon ,   bklyn   (04.17.12)
Add to #13, #16; Jewish and arab doctors treat Jews and arabs in the same hospital. Which Muslim country did you say has this same situation? [Blacks and whites in S Africa were in separate and unequal hospitals.] Arabs(Moslem, Christian, Druse) live in Israel. Which Muslim country does not allow Jews [hint: Many if not most of them]?
45. activist
Henri ,   Brussels Belgium   (04.17.12)
What ! Still talking about this incident ? It's as important as a small car crash at an intersection.
46. #7 Aussie - No need tobe bewildered
BEN JABO ,   ISRAEL   (04.17.12)
I will show you the light By Dr Gideon Polya 29 August, 2010 Australia’s explicitly racist policies against Indigenous Australians and refugees have been slammed by a recent Report from the United Nations Committee on the Elimination of Racial Discrimination (CERD) in Geneva yYu stole their homeland, their future and their children, feel free to correct us after you have corrected your own shortcomings Somehow or other, we have groups of Aussies who are quick to condemn others, while failing or refusing to realize that they themselves are land thieves, while Jews inhabit the land that is the land of the Jews, since time immemorial P.S. Jerusalem & Israel are mentioned in all Bibles, no mention whatever of Palestine or Jerusalem in the Koran, other than Jerusalem was Jewish
47. bewildered aussie #7
peggy ,   uk   (04.17.12)
you must be on something or living on another planet... no more to be said
48. Media TriesTo Play Down their damage
NowThatDamageIsDone ,   Jerusalem Israel   (04.17.12)
THree days night and day 24/7 the media all of them kept the story on the front burner sending it around the world , Now that they have accomplished their tarnishing of Israel and new facts may be coming out not to mention the fury of the public to the media reaction they are trying to undue the damage but it is too late as usual they have spread their leftist self righteous indignation to our enemies. Eisner was wrong to have overacted as he did but the media has done much more damgage to the Jewish Homeland than Eisner ever did in their reportarage !.
49. Israeli media to take in hands and to defend IDF
Borislava ,   Sofia, Bulgaria   (04.17.12)
Every flash of arrogance (of leftists "activists") should be slaked with a bucket of water. Overstatement of the situation from Israeli side is the worst scenario and could further strain and give reason to any world's scum "to fight for human rights"
50. #44
Bewildered Aussie   (04.17.12)
There are roads in the West Bank, that only jews can drive on. There is light rail built for jews only. There are shops for jews only. There are buses for jews only I can keep going if you want. Many Pallestinians are turned away from receiving medical treatment for life-threatening illnesses. Sometimes they receive treatment, then suddenly when they present at the border control, with all their usual correct documents, a jewish guard will suddenly refuse the patient entry. This is typically sadistic of a rogue state.
51. #46 Ben
Bewildered Aussie   (04.17.12)
I was bought up to hate jews, both in my Catholic schooling, and by my parents and friends. This has held me in good steed through my long life so far. Never trust a jew. In your 4,000 year history, you have not learnt how to get on with humans. Don't criticize what happened in Australia a LONG time ago. You have not learnt. You are still doing this today against unarmed Palestinians. Shame on you Ben! Shame on you Israel!
52. #47 Peggy
Bewildered Aussie   (04.17.12)
Thanks for your comment, Peggy. For you to say something so childish, I know I must have hit a nerve. Oh the truth hurts, doesn't it Peggy??
53. #46 Ben
Bewildered Aussie   (04.17.12)
Your light (is it a torch or a candle?) seems to be rather selective. I have spent 55 years in Australia, and know my history well. I suggest you study up boy before you take me on.
54. Yes, Esiner only committed assault because he was trapped...
Jacob   (04.17.12)
It's all the wicked media's fault. They should of course have let the IDF go on beating up civilians in secrecy, without bothering to report on it. No possible blame can attach to a trained soldier for committing a criminal assault on an innocent civilian; the victim's political views make in entirely their own fault.
55. to frauss # 9.
Judah N. Wenkel ,   Helsingborg, Sweden   (04.17.12)
-BECAUSE WE ARE BETTER than them ... :/ !!
56. #53 Aussie sure you are bewildered
BEN JABO ,   ISRAEL   (04.17.12)
The light isn't all that selective; in fact it was very much to the point, notice the date, only a couple of years ago Nobody has to take you on, you're doing a good job of all by your lonesome by refuting facts that are available to one and all, and all you had to do is Google for them Being there 35 years doesn’t mean that you have 35 years of experience; by the tone of your post it's more like you had one years experience 35 times I have had this same discussion with numerous other Aussie's refusing to accept their own abominable history You know "seective history" not the full version
57. after what i've seen in iraq and afghanistan
sweeter than honey ,   far away   (04.18.12)
these past few years, including danish units getting heavy duty (and they do), this by comparasion is such small fry, blown out of all proportion by who? for which purpose? if it would have been an anti-war demo in london and he was police, then quite possibly suspended. if this event could not have been policed, then perhaps it should not have been allowed.
58. Bewildered Aussie # 50
Shoshieb ,   Migdal, Israel   (04.18.12)
My G-d you don't give up do you? 1. The separate road was made because of driveby shootings. 2. A soldier was stabbed by a Palestinian 2 weeks ago ON the light rail. 3. Buses have been blown up by suicide bombers ON the buses - anyone can travel on the buses. 4. A would be suicide bomber who was treated at a hospital in Tel Aviv and was going back for a check-up, was found to have a bomb on her at the crossing between Gaza and Israel. 5. We are fighting for our lives here and we have to be vigilant - the "rotten apples" in the basket (Terrorists) are spoiling it for others. 6. My last hospital treatment, in the ER, I was treated by 2 Arab doctors. 7. Israel has learn't to be human - any disaster in the world, Israel is the first to arrive and set up field hospitals, 8. Israel brings Iranian, Iraqi and other Arab children to Israel to fix their hearts or whatever ails them. So I take great umbrage of your anti-semitism and your hatred for the Jewish people - we are not perfect, but we are doing a pretty good job. Re: what happened in Australia 300 years ago and your being there 55 years - till today the Aborgines only receive water in the morning and in the evening - so if you want my advice - start reading up on history - it may surprise you! You are a bigoted nasty excuse for an Australian.
59. Bewildered Aussie
BEN JABO ,   ISRAEL   (04.18.12)
You really must be bewildered, you haven't been able with anything to refute what I had posted You may are free to join your Islamo-Facist "mates"
60. Bewildered Aussie-u ar either a liar
Toby ,   Israel   (04.18.12)
or u can't get ur facts straight. There is no Apartheid. Light rail arabs can't ride? Where did you get your "facts" from? Turned away... maybe in Australia. Not only are they not turned away they usually don't pay
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