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Israel gets 4th German submarine
Yoav Zitun
Published: 03.05.12, 18:15
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31. RE: Tofu turkey (Tayfun_turkey)
Raz Barr ,   Haifa Israel   (05.04.12)
Hey Tofu turkey, You better shut you mouth you turks will be next in our submarine sights. We will line up all 5 subs in front of Iran and lauch nuclear weapons at them and put the country out of its missery, then next well take care of you turks the way it needs to be done. After that we will show all the middle east doubters who is still really in charge. After almost 6 thousand years of being everyone ones slave in the middle east its about time we turn the tables and show all the jew haters , and arabs out there who we are now. the days are long over that we will ever be your slave, or your biatch again. you had your chance. I wish I was prine minister of Israel. It would be a much different middle east than it is now. Terrrorist thugs would be destroyed .
32. After that, my old reserves agains buying VW cars has just..
Flavio ,   Sao Paulo, Brazil   (05.04.12)
...gone down the drain! Why should I keep boycotting 'Made in Germany' products, as a protest against the Shoah, while Israel's best deterrence is being provided exactly by Deutschland über alles?
33. Nr 26.
Arn. ,   Sweden.   (05.04.12)
The matter is that the Subs must be discovered before they unleashes the Torpedos. The Swedish Subs was not because of its construction, but Of cause the Captain must be skillfull as well. Arn.Swden.
34. The secret of new German sub
Somebody ,   World   (05.04.12)
The secret of the new German subs is their ability to stay under water for much longer periods than the conventional subs. Without needing to use diesel generators to charge up it`s batteries. They use a method called Independent Air propulsion. Or simply AIP. It is a very similar to a fuel cell.
35. Israeli defences upset Israel haters.Good! D
PETER SM ,   AUSTRALIA   (05.04.12)
Thank you decent Germany.
36. If dummyjad were to get off a nuke towards Israel, the plan
Bunnie Meyer ,   Los Angeles, CA USA   (05.04.12)
should be not to just take out the nuke facilities, but to turn the whole country into a sand pile that will never again be inhabited by humans walking on two feet. The two atom bombs dropped on Japan were a warning to stop the war. iran has already had it's warnings and if the people don't stop nutcase, they die.
37. Nr 34. Thats no secret - and -
Arn. ,   Sweden.   (05.04.12)
- it is also one of the assets of the Swedish Subs. Arn.
38. 28
zionist forever   (05.04.12)
The kind of cruise missiles Israel carries on its subs might be fine for carrying nuclear weapons but I doubt they would be much use against the Iranian nuclear facilities anyway but a submarine has alot of uses. Can spy on Iran, sink their ships & subs with torpedos, destroy certain land based targets with missiles, send divers to carry our sabotage or spying operations and of course its a nuclear second strike platform. Another use these subs have is next time Erdogan sends a flotilla instead of risking the lives of Israeli commandos we can use a submarine to sink the ship. As far as destroying the nuclear facilities goes, Bibi is probably going to get Obama to do that willingly or not. Maybe he has done a deal with him and after the election the US will attack Iran or maybe Bibi will provoke Iran into retaliating against an Israeli strike ( doesn't have to be a big one ) and then as he is just six months away from an election Obama cannot sit by and do nothing for Israel in its hour of need and so he will order the US forces in the Gulf to attack Iranian missile launch sites and destroy the Iranian nuclear program for good.
39. To: No. 29
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (05.04.12)
I'll try to break it to you gently, but this isn't a shakedown voyage. Those happened several months ago, and the necessary tweaks have all been made. Evidently, you do not have any substantive knowledge -- or you prefer (in your anti-Israel zeal) to remain willfully blind. This is delivery of a submarine, not a shakedown voyage. But I seriously doubt that the owner of a dinghy who calls himself a seadog would know that .... as you are determined, evidently, to prove relentlessly. You can stop now. We know that you are a fool. Why don't you do us all a favor and merge rather recklessly into rush hour traffic? Preferably on foot. Or in your -- snicker -- little dinghy.
40. Whats with all this Gung Ho Machismo..
Tim ,   Brighton   (05.04.12)
Lets do what we do best With quiet strength focus resolve and unremitting determination to do everything necessary to protect Israel and her people..wether Jews, Muslims Christians Druze Bahai Parsee Hindus and Buddhist
41. To: No. 28
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (05.04.12)
Oh, I don't know about that. Israeli submarines did pretty well when it came to sinking two Iranian container vessels carrying arms destined for Hamas and Hezbollah. We did it right off Bandar Abbas. The Iranians never knew we were there. We're still there, and the Iranians haven't a clue. By the way -- a missile fired from an Israeli submarine will do a considerable amount of damage to Iran (especially if it is tipped with a nuclear warhead) long before Iran even realizes it has been launched. Imagine this: Oops! There goes Teheran! Oops! There goes Isfahan! Oops! There goes Qum! Think we cannot do it? Think again. Oh -- and don't forget those Israeli assets staging in Azerbaijan, Saudi Arabia and the UAE. We're not playing war games, Typhoon Turkey. This is very, VERY real, and it really doesn't bode terribly well for Iran.
42. To: Arn at No. 23
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (05.04.12)
Honey, it's pretty easy to sink a carrier that is a rotting hulk that cannot fire back. Remember the WASA? The Swedes haven't really produced much that is any better since that huge embarrassment.
43. 42
zionist forever   (05.04.12)
Whilst Israel's Dolphins are very good subs and very popular amongst navies that want non nuclear submarines but the new Swedish ones are better. The new Swedish Gotland Class submarines probably the best diesel electric submarines on the market. Just because Israel has it doesn't mean its the best there is. Its Saddam Hussain we have for getting the Dolphins. In the 90s Israel's Gal Class submarines were slowly approaching the end of their service life but there was no money in the budget for replacing them. Then came Saddam & his Scuds and some of the parts were made by German companies and as compensation Germany offered to donate two of the Dolphins Israel had wanted but not had the money to buy and a third would be sold at a subsidized price. After that the navy fell in love with them, started to realize how submarines would allow Israel to take wars far beyond its borders and in the 21st century the economy was in good shape Gabi Ashkenazi only wanted four submarines but Barak wanted six and he managed to get the funding for six. So we do have some things to thank Barak for.
44. Zionist Forever / 43
Eaglebeak ,   Left Coast, USA   (05.04.12)
That was very interesting. Thank you.
45. To: Zionist Forever at No. 43
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (05.04.12)
Honey, I'll take silent nuclear submarines over noisy diesel ones, any day. And I am very hard pressed to thank Ehud Barak for anything he has done since the 1970s. Shabbat Shalom, my friend. What are the Swedes so afraid of, anyway? Aren't they the ones pushing a futile "peace" upon Israel to begin with? Perhaps we should check with the Sami people of Sweden. Maybe they don't just love being "Swedish" quite as much as the Swedes may care to think. Frankly, there haven't been any Swedes worthy of my admiration since Raoul Wallenberg. Do not ever forget that the Nazis never invaded Sweden. They didn't have to.
46. Nr 42. Dear Sarah - if this realy is you -
Arn. ,   Sweden.   (05.04.12)
- A Carrier has a lot of Ships sourounding it for its protection, such as Subhunting ships and Subhunting Helicopters and whatever. It is those Ships and Helicopters which where unable to track and discover the Swedish Sub. However - if this is You, you lack som Military knowledge regarding this. Regarding WASA as a comparison - The Swedish Marine of today is untested in War, and Regarding the Swedish Subs here mentioned, Sweden is developing even more sofisticated Subs than today. But I am Convinced that, the Swedish Marine of Today, is capable to Rule the Eastern-Sea. Sweden has a great Task to perform in the 3rd World War, if you live you will see. Sweden will Rise !. God bless Thee Sarah. Arn.Sweden.
47. Nr 45.
Arn. ,   Sweden.   (05.04.12)
Dear Sarah - Sweden of today is in a Deep decline in almost all regards, so is Israel in Regard to HASHEM. Humanly to speak - Sweden is lost. But Israel Will Rise with the help of HASHEM, and so will Sweden. God bless !!!. Arn.Swreden.
48. #43 zionist, #33, #37, arn
solomon ,   bklyn   (05.04.12)
#43- Thanks for the information. I have also heard that the Swedish subs are better, even better (esp quieter) than American ones.
49. #40 tim - Amen.
solomon ,   bklyn   (05.04.12)
50. #41 sarah
solomon ,   bklyn   (05.04.12)
I have heard of Israel commandeering ships laden with weapons destined for Hamas/Hezbollah, but not of Israel sinking any ships. Please elaborate or post where on the web we can find this information.
51. #45 sarah
solomon ,   bklyn   (05.04.12)
The submarines in question are all “diesel” in that actual nuclear submarines are much larger; too large for the coastal waters of the Mediterranean. The difference of the newer Dolphins is that they will be able to stay under water longer. The new system, as I am reading, will generate electricity which in turn drives the electric motors for propulsion and/or recharges the boat's batteries. It seems the diesel motors will still be used.
52. #41 sarah
solomon ,   bklyn   (05.04.12)
I have heard of Israel commandeering ships laden with weapons destined for Hamas/Hezbollah, but not sinking ships. Please elaborate of post where on the web we can find this information.
53. hahaha ! Sarah B proving she is full of it
Miriam   (05.04.12)
yet again. What an annoying moron.
54. #45 sarah (#53 miriam) - Part 2
solomon ,   bklyn   (05.05.12)
I stand corrected. Although what I say about the Dolphin's increased amount of time underwater and the fact that the sub is still powered by diesel is correct, diesel subs ARE more silent than nuclear. My apologies; and thank you for the correction.
55. OOPS! THERE GOES SARAH....#41
MAHMOOD ,   LONDON-UK   (05.05.12)
At times you tend to overdo it Sarah.Israeli submarines in Persian Gulf and the Iranians don't know it?Wow.....what an achievement indeed.And who told you that?An Israel's Defence Department?For you to share the information to us as readers?You are seriously displaced and in need of urgent mediacl attention!
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