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'Vatican seeking religious alliance to combat gay marriage'
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Published: 09.05.12, 15:09
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1. "Jewish community"
Dr Harry ,   Jerusalem   (05.09.12)
Please do not refer the Liberal & Reform people as "Jewish community" They represent themselves only. They maybe Jewish by birth, but do not represent the Jewish community that adheres to the Torah, not their watered down "I FEEL GOOD" made-up religion poising as the Jewish faith. They believe in themselves, not God. To define gay unions as a marriage is despicable. The Torah refers to this as an abomination. So to the Gentile world, do as you please, but do not bring us into your discussions. Faithful Jew.
2. @1
Sol ,   Toronto   (05.09.12)
I must share with you how repugnant your comments are. You sound like one of the Ayatollahs and should be ashamed by your intolerance. Despite the obvious proof to the contrary, if you want to believe that Judaism is an unchanging and unchangable fossil then knock yourself out. It is more then chutspadik to exclude the bulk of world Jewry from the Jewish community - it is just plain ignorant medievalism. You and the church reactionaries share that and make fine bedfellows - just wear protection.
3. 2
Dr. Harry ,   Jerusalem   (05.09.12)
How typical and expecting a comment like yours. You are a good student. I am very blunt & like to get to a point. I remember the late Mayor of Detroit, Mr Young, who was Mayor for many years. As soon as he didn't like something, he would yell, RACIST, an people just backed off. Nice trick! It isn't going to work here. You took your words, right out of the Reform handbook. "intolerance" "acting like Ayatollahs" "Talibans" We as Jews, know what we are here for and to consider your comment: "to exclude the bulk of World Jewry" You are the ones, the Bulk that has broken the Link from Sinai, not us. God doesn't need numbers (Bulk). God wants us to obey by His Torah. DO YOU??? I don't have to knock myself out. True Judaism is flourishing, while your Bulk is disappearing. Besides I am not excluding a fellow Jew. I am against a group of people watering down our Torah, our heritage, our way of life. We as Jews haven't survived all these centuries because of your reform Bulk Jewry. I have more respect to a Secular Jew, because, he knows the true way, but decided not to observe. You made up a Religion and call it Judaism. WHY??? God is my PROTECTION.
4. To ยท#1
Daniel ,   Barcelona, Spain   (05.09.12)
You do not represent us neither so stop talking in the name of the "jewish comunity" , you do not know nothing about reform or liberal judaism
5. #1 Orthodox intolerance is the same as the Mullahs
Laila ,   New York, USA   (05.09.12)
#1 You represent the worse of Judaism. Many Orthodox Jews are so intolerant that they are just as cruel as the Iranian Mullahs or Egyptian Salafists. No different.
6. Vatican still in the Middle Ages
Fortunee ,   New York, USA   (05.09.12)
The Vatican are still stuck in the Middle Ages.
7. hope they succeed better than they did condemning priestly
Moshe ,   Usa   (05.09.12)
molestation of children.
8. #1 is correct.
Jake ,   USA   (05.09.12)
Judaism has 2 denominations: 1. Torah Judaism. 2. Everything else.
9. half of the most virulent anti-israel activities
oferdesade ,   israel   (05.09.12)
in england and ireland (BDS etc) are backed by church-sponsored ngos. b4 they ask for the help of the jews, maybe they should take some time out to examine their stance on the jewish state.
10. keep your church....
twice blessed   (05.09.12)
out of my crotch ! Maybe its best to first apologize to humanity for the role of silence by the catholic church while the Jews and others were gassed.
11. lookslike the Jewish Taliban
alsky ,   toronto   (05.09.12)
is alive and well. yes to equality for all Jews....gay and straight and transgendered ! I can oly hope some of those homophobes will be faced with a child who grows up and says im gay !
12. Intolerance
Belinda ,   Amarillo, USA   (05.10.12)
You know what is worse than intolerance? The arrogance of those that speak for others.
13. #11
ltrail ,   United States   (05.10.12)
And why would you hope such a problem, like that, upon someone?
14. Novel idea
ed   (05.10.12)
let your priests and nuns have real marriage and maybe it would cut down on the abberant behavior.
15. @6
Yaniv ,   Sydney Australia   (05.10.12)
All religions are stuck in the middle ages.
16. @11
Yaniv ,   Sydney Australia   (05.10.12)
Why do you think its a problem? Its not a problem. Those who have a problem with it have a problem!
17. #2 You do what you want in your family
Yossef   (05.10.12)
but let us do what we want in our family. Repugnant or not, if we choose not to be gay, it doesn't hurt you.
18. #15 and you are stuck in a middle brain
Yossef   (05.10.12)
19. fool. christianity is under attach and he does not even real
ralph ,   toronto   (05.10.12)
realize it. wastes time on this and being anti-semetic
20. #1,HARRY BRAVO, #11,NOW THAT YOU'RE god
....DACON9   (05.10.12)
where will your church be located? when will your new bible be completed. Now that you cursed TORAH AND ISRAEL THE NATION, pharoah did the same thing. If you are in pain alsky, you CAN get assistance.
21. #16, Homosexuality was considered a mental disorder...
Jake ,   USA   (05.10.12)
...until the 1970's
22. The Torah calls...
Tuvia Schertzman,MD ,   Betar Ilit   (05.10.12)
homosexual unions an abomination. How does the "reform" radicals argue with this? After all, we are supposed to be a holy people.
23. #21 it still IS a mental disorder....
Baruch ,   Boston, USA   (05.10.12)
it's just that people are choosing to pretend it isn't why else would a man in a fundamentally heterosexual environment choose to partner with a man? makes no sense. like fetishism or bestiality or trans-sexual behavior
24. To my brother "Twice Blessed"
Luiz F Haddad ,   Niteroi, Brazil   (05.11.12)
Dear brother. As a renewed Christian Catholic, true friend of Israel and of Jewish people, I do understand your revolt against the terrible sins committed by my Church, and others, during past times. But since II Vatican Concil (1963/65), it has been changed. Pope Benedict XVI, in 2008, said: "Being Anti Semitic means to be Anti Christian". We share common values, including about the refered issue above. Warm salutes.
25. Orthodox response
Joseph ,   London UK   (05.11.12)
Of afilliated British Jews about 80% are at least nominally Orthodox. There's been little public response because we can't believe what's happening. The Jewish family/home and procreation are the foundation of Jewish life. We accept civil unions because we accept everyone has civil rights, but that is not what we Jews understand as 'marriage'. Next they will demand marriage in synagogue/church/mosque/temple, and the European Court will support the prosecution of clergy who refuse.
26. Reform: Moral versus ritual
Danny ,   London UK   (05.11.12)
In earlier generations the classical Reform Jewish view distinguished between ritual law and moral law. They rejected ritual law such as Shabbat, Kashrut, mikveh etc, but they accepted the Torah's moral law, such as the prohibition of adultery, incest, sodomy, bestiality. Now they are rejecting the moral law. If you reject Jewish ritual and Jewish morals, what's left?
27. GAY MARRIAGE NO, PEDOPHILIA OKAY
Hanna ,   USA   (05.12.12)
28. The Jewish Lobby
Danny ,   London UK   (05.15.12)
Although mainstream British Jews and Catholics share views on the sanctity of life and the definition of marriage as one man marrying one woman, nonetheless the Catholic Church on its own has the clout to make a govt think twice. Having Jews prominantly involved can lead to charges of a Jewish 'lobby' etc....
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