Opinion  Ron Ben-Yishai
Netanyahu boosts Israel’s deterrence
Ron Ben-Yishai
Published: 08.05.12, 12:42
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1. As such and Could be and become.
Arn. ,   Sweden.   (05.08.12)
2. Boost
peter ,   tel aviv israel   (05.08.12)
The only boost Bibi is giving is to nausea. Focusing on the Iran threat simply means that the public should not expect that their leaders do what they are supposed to. No focus on social policies, education,taming of the tycoons and most important no focus on a real meaningful peace process. Let the settlers occupy any hill and let the haredim segregate more parts of society.
3. Deterrence power?
spyguy ,   Seattle USA   (05.08.12)
The delusions of some Israelis never ceases to amaze me. The hard reality is Israel has almost no power unless it can somehow bribe or threaten the US to do something. Sure Israel has nukes, BUT if it ever uses them it will mean the end of Israel. Nuking nearby countries will just kill Israelis with the bomb by-products and nuking countries further away will just lead to massive retaliation. It is long past time for Israelis to realize that they can NEVER exist in this world by force but MUST learn to get along with their neighbors and the rest of humanity. Israel can NOT do anything to Iran and Israel needs to just learn to live with Iran as it is. Note that India just told the US to shut up and go away about Iran. As the governments change in Europe, more and more countries will tell the US the same thing. The days of US power are nearly over, meaning that Israel will have zero power in the near future.
4. Bibi's deterrence boost and what it means.
Noodles ,   Coney Island   (05.08.12)
The only questions remaining now about Iran are date and timing.
5. #2 LOL silly boy
Yisraeli   (05.08.12)
you still have expectations from the piss process? oh you lefties are incapable of growing up. Still blaming everyone you dont like but never the main culprits the arabs. Thank god your numbers are negligible and insignificant.
6. #3 Useful idiot
Amichai ,   Huntsville, US   (05.08.12)
"Israelis to realize that they can NEVER exist in this world by force but MUST learn to get along with their neighbors and the rest of humanity. " Hmmm....the last time we were integrated into societies and lived in peace with our neighbors, Jew-haters killed half of us while people like you just sat back & said "oh the humanity" - then went back to reading the comic section of the paper. There are only about 7 million Israelis out of 6 billion people, 20% of which are Arabs. We just want our homeland - a small sliver smaller than the size of New Jersey. The Arab lands around us are 640 times bigger than Israel, yet the world just can't seem to stand us having any homeland. Jackboots like you would rather wring our necks than offend your oil producing masters. We didn't start the wars of aggression, we offered land for peace - we got universal condemnation and a manifesto of our destruction. It doesn't matter to people like you that Iran, Iraq, Saudi Arabia & Turkey have been states only a few decades longer than us. It doesn't matter that Jordan occupies land that was originally promised to Israel in the Balfour agreement. It doesn't matter that the humanitarian crisis in "Palestine" was a culmination of Jordan (who legally owned the West Bank but wouldn't take it back) and Egypt (who owned Gaza but wouldn't take it back) backing Arafat who coined the phrase "Palestinian" to use as a propaganda tool to fool the weak-minded like you. All that matters is that you toe the leftist line and parrot the party propaganda. People like you will never again decide our fate.
7. SpyPutz 3- rabid ideology
Stephen in New York   (05.08.12)
You used to post that Israel had no inherent advantage in weapons development and your posts continue to be informed by gross ignorance and an underlying rabid ideology. You welcome the supposed demise of American power and salivate over the idea of a “powerless” Israel. You have no idea what is going on or who and what the players are.
8. Thank you, Ron Ben Ishai
Clear Thinker ,   Haifa, Israel   (05.08.12)
Ron Ben Ishai is one of the few commentators who have a clear enough head to see the advantages of the government's inlcuding Kadima in the coalition. Most of the others, who by their nature wish Likud ill, are scrounging for reasons that this new coalition is bad for Israel, so far to no avail.
9. spyguy # 3
Eaglebeak ,   Left Coast, USA   (05.08.12)
It is a waste of time trying to get along with people determined to exterminate you. You probably would have advised Jews to learn to live with Hitler. It pretty much amounts to the same thing. Force and power is all some people understand. Israel does not and never will get it's power from the Untited States of America.
10. Israel will never attack Iran
E.M Jordan is Pales ,   SF   (05.08.12)
Iran will never successes to make Nuclear bomb and the Iranian policy will bring disastrous to entire Islamic nations, the war of Shiest and Sunniest the war for chalifah the war for supremacy the 1400 years conflict that never has been forgotten and it is right time for Iranian whom has majority of Shiest population and for the first time after the centuries the Iraq is under control of shiest majority too, for those reason I would never attack Iran if I were instead of Israeli government because the enemy my enemy is my friend and let them destroys each other’s.
11. Should the operation fail? IF action then TOTAL VICTORY.
Jerry ,   The Netherlands   (05.08.12)
12. To #3!
Jake Stone ,   USA   (05.09.12)
You're an idiot! Let's first get that out of the way! You say Israel has no real power (then explain the many victories on the field of battle since 1948?). Against all odds, they've continued to survive (first as a people and then as a viable, established country). Very soon, by way of war, Israel's borders will be greatly enlarged; and, when that happens, what is your sorry, punk-arse going to say then? Nothing!!! Now, what is the primary reason for Israel's past and future victories? God! To the seclular and godless heathen, you will never be able to understand this; but, to those of us...who do...the realization that we love and serve an awesome God brings warmth to the heart and peace of spirit...knowing everything is going to be all right for all those who trusts in the provisions of the Lord. Israel wins! God bless, Israel; praying for the peace of Jerusalem! Christian Zionist
13. #3: Funny perspective. Typical of Seattlites
EZRA THE PROUD JEW ,   USA-ISRAEL   (05.09.12)
Hmmmm, lets see. Israel has fought all of her wars ALONE: the US never had troops on the ground or engaged in combat on behalf of Israel. (don't cite iraq or afghanistan: pure oil and precious metals were the quest; NOT protecting Israel). Israel has the best military in the middle east, whipped the arabs repeatedly while outgunned and with a fraction of the weapons. The arab world is in complete and utter chaos. The PA bid for a state failed at the UN. The arabs REJECTED the state and territory destroying any and ALL legal rights and basis for another state on what was offered to them (which was JEWISH LAND). The ENTIRE struggle for the arabs is NOT yet ANOTHER state: it is the obliteration and removal of Jews EVERYWHERE. Just days after WW2 ended, the arabs called to finish 'hitlers work'. Today, they STILL call for this. You support peace with these lunatics who want YOU dead? Who think YOU are subhuman? Go back into your cave and smoke some more weed: you have no part in this, your opinions don't mean jack and your perspectives are those of an idealist fanatic with no understanding of reality. Please stay in seattle where we can keep dibs on your kind: you left wing fanatics are today's nazis. You've got blood on your hands and are in bed with TERRORISTS. You are a traitor to humanity and our naturally present ethos which sustains our species. What a total and complete JOKE. Chow. And good luck.
14. # 6, 7, 9 & 12 thank you for proving my point.
Spyguy ,   Seattle USA   (05.09.12)
It is interesting that non-Israelis are so eager for more war. An IMPORTANT thing to remember about wars is they require massive resources. There must be lots of humans to be used as cannon fodder to die for the country. There must be lots of military and civilian hardware to be destroyed. There must be lots of OIL to power all that stuff to be destroyed. But above all, there must be lots of wealth to squander. In case you haven't kept up to date, Israel does NOT have a lot of its own resources and the USA will be reluctant to waste too much more than it has already wasted over the last ten years. Yes Israel has many PAST glories, BUT the nature of warfare has changed drastically since the last time Israel actually accomplished very much, as the US has learned all too well from its losses in Iraq and Afghanistan. And betting on "god" to save Israel, is a sure losing bet. The IDF is fairly well trained and equipped, BUT it can not take on the entire world. Get that 2000 year old chip off your shoulder and learn to live in the real world. Stop the delusions and face reality before reality destroys you.
15. To number 12
allan ,   London, England   (05.09.12)
The point number 3 is trying to make is that you cannot rely on military power forever. The arabs can lose many battles but they can never actually lose the war, Israel cannot occupy the entire arab world. look what happened in 82, when Israel occupied Lebanon. Imagine that with Egypt, Jordan and Syria. The problem is there is needs to be a huge change in the way both israelis and more importantly the way the surrounding countries think of Israel. Then can there be peace, but there must be a deal with the arabs, or war will continue in one way or another. and then there is Iran, run by a lunatic theocratic madman, who talk of Destroying Israel, but more importantly want to destroy Sunni Islam and control the gulf and dominate with Shia islam. This is the perfect oppurtunity to say to the arab sunni world, that Israel is not the enemy, that Israel is willing to do some deal with the PA and to have peace with the arab world, before Iran and Shia islam grows even more. Let the Palestinians have a state, let them rule themselves, let them not have check points etc. But, if they attack, then as an independent country the PA would be responsible for the consequences and Israel would have every right to retaliate without the constant left wing "occupation" nonsense. And with Syria, open the borders to refugees, help the ordinary people escape Assad and show the arab world that Israel is willing to help the ordinary syrian, feed them, build refugee camps, until assad is no more. But to rely forever on a military is wrong, as in time the other countries will catch up, and with Iran could overtake Israel, given time,
16. To Ezra at #13!
Jake Stone ,   USA   (05.09.12)
Hey, great talkback (right-on)! These liberals', who are usually sleepless in Seattle, are the mentally deficient among us. All anti-Semites have a distorted view of reality; I guess their hate also distorts their objectivity. Of course, having low IQ's doesn't help any. Oh, well...them the cards dealt...I guess. I do have one thing that I have to disagree with you on: Israel has pound-for-pound the best military in the world. Keep-up the good work! God bless!
17. One last thing to make the government even stronger:
Taz Man ,   USA   (05.09.12)
Get rid of Barak!!! With all the existential threats at their doorstep, Israel really needs to unite and remain strong; they're going to need it with the coming wars. I feel sorry for the Jews, always having to fight; but, no need to worry: there is One who never sleeps nor slumbers; Israel, put your faith in HaShem! God bless, Israel and His Jerusalem! A Christian Zionist
18. No. 15 You can make all analisys in the world
Ari   (05.09.12)
But you dont understand arab mentality. For them Israel is thrwn in the neck. It is anatema. If Arbas desar thmeselves there could be peace. If israel desrs it will be anihilated in seconds. Israel Gve back Gaza settlements and received in exchange rockets. Abbas political party does not recognize Israel si why do you expect everything from Israel and not from the arabs
19. to 17
a woman ,   jerusalem   (05.09.12)
God bless me and my jerusalem
20. Destroy Iran's nukes NOW! Let's get on with it.
Chaim ,   Israel   (05.09.12)
Time is running out. Iran's Mad Mullahs work feverishly to build nukes to use against Israel. Destroy Iran's nukes NOW! Let's get on with it.
21. TO #15: You are so seventies...
HaifaGuy   (05.09.12)
Your post has left me jaw-dropped: where in the world have you been in the last 30-40 years??? Burma? South Dakota? Mars? Nothing else to add, gonna go and smoke me another spliff.
22. 14 and 15-peace?
Stephen in New York   (05.09.12)
The Palestinians offer hudnas, not permanent peace. Open your eyes.
23. To #14! Behold the Glory of the Lord!
Jack B. ,   USA   (05.10.12)
Israel doesn't have to beat the world, only the Muslims. Where have you been? Read their military history since 1948, and if you can't see a divine presence working, you're blind; but, most of all a godless heathen that will burn unless he repents before the Lord. Back to Israel's prowess in battle, well, soon, you and the world will marvel at what Israel and their God (the One you mock; not a good idea!) does. I'm sure I/we won't hear anymore from your heathen soul; just sit and stew in your anti-Semitism. Try ponder why, with your Muslim brothers, Israel still survives against overwhelming odds? Again: God! Remember: Hell is a very hot place; try to avoid it! God bless, Israel!
24. Ezra #13
Hertzel ,   Tveria   (05.20.12)
Kol Hakavod, what a way to say it! G-D Bless you, and all of Israel and it's supporters!!
25. AMETEUR SPYGUY
NEVADA_LEN ,   USA   (05.21.12)
IT IS EVIDENT, THAT WHEN YOU SPEAK OF NUKES YOU NO NOTHING. THERE HAVE BEEN TACTICAL NUKES SINCE THE 1950'S. FOR YOUR INFORMATION A TACTICAL NUKE IS OF LOW POWER, SMALL ENOUGH TO FIT INTO AN ARTILARY SHELL, AND CAN DO TERRIBLE DAMAGE TO A LIMITED AMOUNT OF TERRITORY. SOME COLATERAL DAMAGE, BUT NOTHING LIKE A NUKE OF MANY THOUSANDS OF TONS EQUIVELENT OD DYAMITE. WITH MUCH RADIATION. A TACTICAL WILL HAVE LIMITED RADIATION TO THE AREA BUT SUBSTANTIAL ENOUGH TO MAKE IT UNINHABITAL FOR A VERY LONG TIME. NOW YOU KNOW THE REST OF THE STORY.
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