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US haredim say goodbye to smartphones, internet
Kobi Nahshoni
Published: 03.06.12, 14:48
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1. Satmar on Twitter
Kyle ,   Southpark, CO, USA   (06.03.12)
I have noticed more Satmar accounts on Twitter. Should I block and report them for spam? This is way retarded.
2. smartphones boycott = smoking boycott
monique ,   Jaffa, Israel   (06.03.12)
If the reveered rabbis are so powerful and influential to their followers; why not STOP THEM SMOKING TOO. 'Pikuah nefesh'! and all that wasted money which they dont have.
3. Those US black hats at least don't live
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (06.03.12)
at our expenses as they do here , so let them stay in their dark age .
4. That s nobody s business...
Yehudit ,   Israel   (06.03.12)
Better get ahead with your own business in life.
5. If secular world would know the difference between
Chaim ,   Migron   (06.03.12)
morality and immorality they'd understand the reason haredim say goodbye to internet.
6. OK, suit yourself.
deebo ,   holon   (06.03.12)
7. Do the same for smoking, lack of exercise,
hippocrates ,   earth   (06.03.12)
8. Stupidity
leo ,   nyc   (06.03.12)
Would these rabbis like their physicians to stop using the internet too? Is their form of Judaism so fragile that knowledge of the outside world would cause Haredi belief to crumble? Apparently all extremes of religion can only exist when knowledge of the outside world is sharply limited---it doesn't say much for these beliefs.
9. ynet in so misinformed
jack ,   brooklyn ny usa   (06.03.12)
Ynet is so clueless on this matter first of all there are 2 satmar rebbes now the one that said that u need to find a new rebbe or throw out the smartphone is not the one ynet put in the pic that's the other satmar and the rally was not an anti internet but just trying to expose the dangers that the social networking how manny homes it destroyed even the U.S. Media put in that its just promoting filters not like ynet who has no clue what there talking about
10. #2: smoking is way down in haredi community
david ,   new york   (06.03.12)
i know through working in williamsburg that the percentage of hasiddim smoking is low now, probably lower than that in the US in general. i know that the yeshivas and batei midrash prohibit it.
11. 5 , chaim . spitting on a girl is your morality !
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (06.03.12)
12. Leo # 8 . You're right !
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (06.03.12)
Their belief must be very weak , otherwise why fear internet ?
13. 8 leo Children are fragile
Yehudit ,   Israel   (06.03.12)
Adults use modern technology needed for their profession.
14. correction need here
Larry ,   Los Angeles   (06.03.12)
There are really two view points that are blurred together. One is the extremist view that any internet is to be excluded. The second is the more pragmatic view point, realizing that internet is necessary for business and connecting families, this group of rabbis, mostly in America call for a FILTER. What both agree upon is the nature of the internet to bring smut and porno to one's house with out to much effort. This even level minded gentiles realize and therefore Microsoft has been installing a filter or level selector in the Internet options. The problem is that most people know how to dis-enable it. But still what religious or non-religious person want his young children and teens exposed to raw porno, social invitations from pedophiles and miscellaneous crap?
15. TOO FUNNY TO COMMENT ON IT :))
les ,   canada   (06.03.12)
16. #3 45% of Israeli Haredim already work
Menachem ,   Israel   (06.03.12)
according to a recent Bank of Israel report so they don't live off the state. This is an increase compared to 2009 when 39% were working. I agree that the number is still far too low but the good news is that more and more Israeli Haredim are getting a higher secular education and join the work force.
17. It ain't the phone, just can't control your porn habit
ChicagoDave   (06.03.12)
Guns don't kill people and computers and smartphones aren't 'impure'. Porn exists, turn it off. Suicide also exists, doesn't mean you have to point the gun at your head and pull the trigger. This anti internet tirade is idiotic.
18. Dangers of Internet
Joseph ,   London UK   (06.04.12)
My daughter uses the internet for her work selling advertising. She keeps the computer in her bedroom and uses a password. She woke up one night to find her teenage son in her bedroom using her internet to access porn. Just as most haredi schools do not accept children from homes with t.v., they don't want children with access to internet because it is potentially so dangerous. When we have good enough filters our view may change.
19. satmar always
yosef ,   williamsburg   (06.04.12)
Pleaze don't turn me in! I think many here (williamsburg) under the Satmar Rebbes' guide would welcome most of the detractors posting here to visit us...esp the writer - and maybe you get nicer understanding of our yiddishkeit.
20. 12 year old boy in UK
Danny ,   London England   (06.04.12)
There was a case here in the UK last week of a 12 year old boy who raped a nine year old girl because he had access to hard core porn over a lonmg period of time and he thought this was what men do. The judge should have put the parents in prison. Which parents want their children to have acces to immorality?
21. Danny 20 ,
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (06.04.12)
Do all the rapists look at porn ? My grandchildren have ALL access to internet , without raping anyone .
22. Danny , It's not against children using the web
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (06.04.12)
It's against ALL the users . Adults too !
23. Three things to consider
BEN JABO (MACHAL) ,   ISRAEL   (06.04.12)
No smart phones No sugar drinks larger than 16 ounces Cigarettes having another dollar of tax added to their prices
24. Let them just disconnect
Mike Carmel ,   Rishon le Zion   (06.04.12)
Let them just disconnect from modern life completely if they want to go back to the dark ages. Who cares?
25. 24 Mike I care.
ORA ,   JERUSALEM   (06.04.12)
In Israel we have two kind of people with extreme opinions.Those who are disconnected from internet,and those who are disconnected from G-D. If we don t reject them, but show them understanding ,sympathy and warmth,they might slowly move towards the Golden Middleway.
26. Smart phone
shanti ,   Delhi, India   (06.04.12)
what a shame ?
27. Ora , fine to read you
Charles ,   Petacfh Tikva   (06.04.12)
Internet is needed in this world , a god not at all
28. 27 Charles,obviously you are still..
ORA ,   JERUSALEM   (06.04.12)
the same strong-minded stubborn guy. Didn t we strongly disagree on this issue?
29. smarthphone,dumb people
J.K. ,   Brooklyn USA   (06.04.12)
30. NO PROBLEM AT ALL
BEN JABO (MACHAL) ,   ISRAEL   (06.05.12)
They can use Smoke Signals and Tom Tom's for communcation All that is requried are a couple of high mountains to see the smoke and Ears free of wax, to hear the drums
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