Opinion
Israel’s insane gestures
Elyakim Haetzni
Published: 04.06.12, 12:48
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31. #20, you honestly can't tell the difference?
Danny   (06.04.12)
Between Syria or Hamas-run Gaza and an Israel that doesn't hand back bodies of terrorists for glorification? Seriously?
32. A nice gesture though RIGHT ???
M.S. ,   Mpls America   (06.04.12)
I realize I lost track of how any Palisteinian terrorists bodys wre being held by Israel but the return of 91 coffins supposedly with bodys in them shows Israel is trying to make things RIGHT with the Palisteinians after all it is June 2012 in 26 days July 2012 in around 57 days August 2012 RIGHT ??? Thank You... M. S.
33. Avi #12 not even close
Gee ,   Zikron Yaakov   (06.04.12)
The fact is that you have proven that you truly do not have any clue to the Middle East. The Arabs demand the release of hundreds of LIVE terrorists for every dead bodies. If you knew anything about the region that glaring fact would be known by you. Why do you bother to post here since you do not know anything?
34. It's because Bibi caves to pressure too easily
Vlad   (06.04.12)
Obama and the EU put huge pressure on Bibi to accept a Palestinian state rather than autonomy, so he did it. Bibi secretly froze construction in Jerusalem when Obama demanded it. During his first term, Bibi signed Wye and backed off from his demand that Israel get Jonathan Pollard in exchange.
35. #10. Israel thrives. Palestine is forever fictional.
Chaim ,   Israel   (06.04.12)
#10 Sarah. Nobody is scared by ridiculous threats like yours. Israel has heard them for decades. We all remember all the scaremongering before last September, when "Palestinians" made their fictional statehood declaration. It was a total disaster. Like always. The Two State FInal Solution is dead. Israel thrives. Palestine is forever fictional.
36. bibi is an idiot like barak
alexi   (06.04.12)
the twins of stupidity are joining the olmert and livni club of dodos. You can see the problem of the jewish people even in ancient times-no self respect.
37. to # 5
Josh ,   Atlanta   (06.05.12)
Wow. That's awesome. Now imagine Mr Right and Mr Left are trying to sail an aircraft carrier, and you just described America.
38. Bibi: Give "war" a chance!
Jack ,   San Diego, USA   (06.05.12)
39. impostor #27 re:10
Yosef Y. MSc' ,   USA   (06.05.12)
Right on Sarah, Who ever you are, your posts are always consistent and jive with my own conservative sentiments in general, and here in particular. Question BEGGING to be answered by bleeding heart liberals: Since when it is wrong to be "right"?!
40. #20
Yosef Y. MSc' ,   USA   (06.05.12)
Right on, Becky in Israel, Count me in 2
41. #38 Jack : Give us a break
Noodles ,   Coney Island   (06.05.12)
Bibi is an expert at giving highfalutin speeches and nothing more, although he fancies himself as some kind of latter-day Churchill.
42. The post at 27 is not mine either.
Sarah B. ,   U.S,A / Israel   (06.05.12)
43. to sarah b
patrick a .hammel ,   zermatt,switzerland   (06.05.12)
# 27 we don't care whether or not it is you who has written the other posting.Get off your high horses... You are not the spokeswoman for the government or the IDF! Go and do some yoga instead....
44. An Excellent Article
Reuven   (06.05.12)
All terrorist bodies should be wrapped in pig skins and cremated.
45. Israel's insane gestures
Floriane ,   Israel   (06.05.12)
Continuing to curb to the world put our lives at risks. it does not matter what Israel does, Israel is the villain for Palestinians and the world. They continue to attack us after the Shalit swap. The world calls Israel "an apartheid state" so why should we continue to be a respectful moral state . It gets us nowhere but Hurt the Israeli people.
46. To N 14, Chaim
Luiz F Haddad ,   Niteroi, Brazil   (06.05.12)
Dear Chaim. Israel's gestures toward her enemies are not insane. On the contrary, they show the greatness of your country and your people. Of course, strong military forces and good alliances are necessary. But exactly for that moral greatness, Israel is loved by a lot of people around the world, including this Christian talkbacker. Salutes.
47. #46 Luiz. Don't agree with you but I love your spirit!
Chaim ,   Israel   (06.05.12)
#46 Luiz. I don't agree with you about Israeli gestures and concessions. Israel's enemies rightly view them as a sign of weakness. Somewhat like wolves respond to the smell of blood. Moreover, Israel should not be offering to hand over ANY of our land to those who seek our destruction and have more than 600 times our land mass. However, I love your spirit. It's a pleasure to agree or disagree with you, Luiz.
48. Great article Also Great comments #4 and #5
elzeide ,   Buenos Aires, Argent   (06.05.12)
Great article. Also GREAT comments #4 and #5 #4 = peace is not realistic from= Gabor , Budapest, Hungary (06.04.12) Excellent article, though I would add a few things. Do you make gestures to your enemy? Yes but ONLY if you get something in return. Like peace from Sadat or Hussein of Jordan. And what did we get from removing the 8000 jews from Gaza? What did we get from Arafat by granting him an authority? In the '90-s we believed that we are on the path to achieving peace. Then came the 2nd intifada. And then? . . . . The Israeli leadership should finally realize that currently peace with the Arabs living in Gaza, Judea and Samaria is just not realistic. It is out of question. #5. a story from= israel israeli , tel aviv A life boat with two survivors in the ocean. Mr Right starts rowing with an oar knowing this is their only choice. Mr Left, overcome by sun stroke and depression, is insane. Sometimes he makes holes in the bottom of the boat, sometimes he throws their fresh water overboard. He is often offended that Mr Right is sweaty, did not shave or isn't wearing a tie, so he hits Mr Right in the head with an oar or tries to push him overboard. . . .
49. No Deals, Swaps, or Dignified Burials
Noah Lev ,   LosAngelesUSA   (06.05.12)
Hitler wrote Mein Kampf, wherein he revealed his goals for the world, a New World Order, ruled by the German people ( "Reigh"), He blamed we Jews, worldwide, for everything from hemoroids to warts ( capitalism, communism, socialism, Wall St, "intellectualism", decadent art (architecture), Jewish perfidy and manpulation, undermining countries, stealing languages and culture, sexual illness, no morality, prostitution, defamation of G-d, etc. etc. ZHe threatened the West, that if attacked, Jewish necks would hang. He killed 6m before his army was stopped..(7m German/Austrian dead Most Jews killed were burned, ashes spread for footing. Hair was sent to Germany for bedding. One-third of Hitlers war was paid by confiscated Jewish assets. Eichmann received n appropriate punishment and burial. 200 Israels equals 8,000 Americans ( twice Iraq losses). 1200 Israelis were killed by the Pales in the Intifadas. Muliply by 40 for perspective. They were buried in the Jordan Valley and later turned over to Abbas for memorializing as heroes. Wha? Sooo, they get 72 virgins and a dignified funeral. Leave it to Israel. This is political guys. A peace process gesture by Israel. Abbas is demanding all prisoners be relesed. while Hamas is trying to kidnap more soldiers. Bottom LIne: capital punishment for murderers, cremate dead terrorists, no deals with Arab thugs To Israel; You are being played with big time, and are losing.
50. What
Darius   (06.06.12)
a load of BS.Dead is dead,what is Israel supposed to do with the bodies?To give it to madame tussauds?If Israel helds the bodies of the H&H guys back they will respond in the same way.There is nothing to gain by holding the bodies back.NOthing only bad PR
51. Insanity
C.R. ,   NYC, USA   (06.06.12)
The reason why Israel's leaders keep doing this evil--is because they are not of God--they do not live in accordance with the Tanakh. Israel's leaders are for the most--anti Israel, anti God and anti Jew--and their incompetence and deliberate evil has cost much innocent Jewish blood to be spilled!
52. Ha'Etzni believes that the Shoah enables him..
MelekhShaul ,   Jerusalem   (06.06.12)
Never to admit he's wrong. If there was anyone either side of the Green Line culpable of not only insane gestures but insane language the prize must to him. He is forever blinded by how he interprets the Shoah as a justification for anything and everything. As a Holocaust survivor I am constantly sickened by its abuse by people like this man and a whole swathe of American Jews who have made an industry out of it. Combined they are responsible for taking us deeper and deeper into the abyss of occupation from which there is no escape.
53. Baruch Goldstein
Kevin ,   Boston,ma   (06.06.12)
Oh please. Although your ok with settlers constructing a statue of Goldstein after he killed 29 Palestinians and wounded 200 and didn't tear it down till 2000.
54. Why Israelis still gyrate inapt politicians music?
Nurit Greenger ,   Los Angeles USA   (06.07.12)
It appears that Israelis, when it comes to politics, are dysfunctional and are unableto be a people with self respect and standing power.
55. Kevin #53 rather pathetic
Gee ,   Zikron Yaakov   (06.07.12)
First did he kill anybody? Proof? We have the Arabs' words but nothing more. Second - did the Israeli government have anything to do with the statue? No - so you are holding the entire country for the acts of a tiny minority. Whereas the PA is the ARAB GOVERNMENT. Third isn't amazing that you can find one action that might be considered terrorist, yet I bet I could produce 100 in the last month alone by the Arabs. A mere matter of magnitude in scale
56. Israel's insane gestures
yehuda trainin ,   new york city   (06.08.12)
I always thought that only American and Israeli leftists lived in some alternative universe in which if only Israel made the right moves then all would be well. Much to my surprise, it seems that Netanyahu may have been abducted into that universe and been brainwashed.
57. That's no reason to make these gestures
Chimo ,   Las Vegas, USA   (10.25.13)
I have to disagree with you, although I do understand what you advocate, but the truth is that the gestures to the Palestinians are humiliating and they haven't done one thing to lessen their hatred of anything Jewish. Now you can say that Settler attacks are to blame, but I would say that the Settler attacks have been mostly retaliatory to the rock throwing that those who live beyond the green line have had to deal with. In any case, giving back terrorist bodies is the worst insult you can do to the victims families.
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