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'Neo-Nazis aided Munich Olympics massacre'
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Published: 17.06.12, 14:53
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1. Not new news is it?
Sarah B   (06.17.12)
It has been known for sometime. Is this part of the campaign to make Israel feel special by having a 1 minutes silence at the London Olympics?
2. Neo Nazi's Aiding Terrorists?
Dan ,   Florida - Tel Aviv   (06.17.12)
It must be a slow news day where the obvious becomes a news story.
3. extreme right = extreme left
Daniel - IL ,   IL - TA   (06.17.12)
both the neonazi 'wehrsportgruppe hoffmann' and the extreme left RAF were brotherly trained (together) by arafat's plo in lebanon. But then only the leftwing academy still whitewashes nazism as extreme right (all their ideas are socialist as they clearly indicate!).
4. One minute's silence at the Olympics
Sensible Brit ,   UK   (06.17.12)
As our government has been complicit in the deaths of thousands of people in the ME in the last decade a minute's silence for one ME nation and not another would be highly embarrassing.
5. Daniel #3: extreme right = extreme left
Steve   (06.17.12)
I don't disagree with your view that Nazism incorporated ideas from the left but weren't there also some right-leaning (on matters of race, borders, language, cultural) ideals as well? If not why was Nazism able to attach itself so effectivel to the conservative-right (industry, military, church, etc.) in Germany?
6. Germany hired Nazis after WW2
Tracy W   (06.17.12)
The Nuremberg Trial was just a show. In the meantime West Germany hired civil servants from among former SS and highly placed Nazis. Well, not only the Germans. The Americans too hired top Nazis and put them in the State Department, for example. The US government excuse is that they needed Nazis with intelligence expertise to fight the Russians. There was a Cold War, after all. But the American government did not hire just a few intelligence advisors. They hired thousands of Nazis, many of them with no special expertise. ~~~~~~~~ But back to West Germany. The West German government also concocted a fake airplane hijacking in order to free a few Munich Olympic terrorists it still held. There were only 11 passengers on board, all male. The pilot was told to fly to Munich and the terrorists' demands were relayed to Bonn. Within hours the German Chancellor, Willy Brandt, gave in and the three men were handed over. The Israelis were not consulted. Google "The Guardian - Bonn Faked Hijack to Free Killers" ~~~~~~ Shall we look at East Germany now? They not only gave shelter to PLO terrorists but they armed and trained them as well. Who needs the Third Reich when people with the same ideology stayed in charge to contract out the killing of Jews to terrorist groups?
7. The post at No. 1 is not mine
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (06.17.12)
8. To: No. 4
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (06.17.12)
Well, while I agree that the British are complicit in the deaths of a great mnany people across the Middle East, the fact does remain that, having issued their famous White Paper in 1937 that severely restricted (banned) Jewish emigration to Palestine, the British are responsible for the death of millions of Jews, by trapping them in Europe. Do you still find it embarrassing? You should.
9. Of course that was wrong
British Mum ,   UK   (06.17.12)
The British and US governments should have taken as many as possible in and given them asylum and eventually citizenship if they wanted it on an indivudual basis. Its very wrong that they didn't. As far as Great Britain was concerned I suppose they couldn't cope with massive immigration straight after the war. Dunno. Food rationing went on for a few years after. No excuse iMO though.
10. Missing the point
Ron from NJ ,   Newark USA   (06.17.12)
The back-and-forth over who has caused more deaths in the Middle East is irrelevant. This is strictly an Olympic issue. Atheletes, regardless of whence they came, were murdered at the Olympics. The original Olympics were instituted as a brief respite for peaceful competition by the Spartans & Athenians who otherwise spent most of their time fighting /killing each other. Terrorists profaned the Olympics by violating the whole raison d'ĂȘtre of the Games. The IOC pledged to hold a memorial, but never did, making a mockery of the entire Games. For the sake of the Olympic ideal, there neelds to be some kind of memorial to make the statement that the Olympic spirit lives on-- or does it?
11. @Sarah B
Sensible British Mum ,   UK   (06.17.12)
Oops. Got my names muddled :) Anyway. Yes we should have tried to get them out to UK and US in 1937. I think the powers that be though at the time realised that sending them to Palestine would lead us to where we are today...which is never ending conflict with the people who already live there. In fact its probably turned out worse than they predicted. Certainly the US still had the space and the capacity even if we were a bit strapped for it. But it wasn't me. Jewish kids did arrive at my Mum's school before the war. But we seemed to be better at moving people around in those days and making them someone's else's problem. I'm not a fan of the British Empire. I'm making excuses for the faults and arrogance of the Empire but we've largely got past it and moved on.
12. I mean...I am NOT making excuses.
Sensible Brit ,   UK   (06.17.12)
We still have a way to go though and not meddling in the ME is the next step.
13. To: No. 9
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (06.17.12)
What was Great Britain's excuse for preventing Jewish emigration to Palestine BEFORE the war? Caving in to Arab demands because of all that oil in Iraq and Saudi Arabia? Whatever happened to compassion and reason? The European Jews weren't asking to come to Britain. They wanted to go to Palestine and rebuild the ancient Jewish homeland; the one promised to them by the British via the Balfour Declaration and the San Remo Conference. Six million Jews were slaughtered because the British government thought it was important to appease Arab interlopers who had no business in Palestine to begin with. Do you understand the enormity of that callousness? University professors, concert musicians, Nobel Prize laureates, mathematicians, physicians, lawyers and businessmen -- and a great many others -- perished horribly because the British wanted to appease Arabs because the Arabs had oil, needed to grease Britain's manufacturing base, without which Britain would be nothing. Hell of a reason to sacrifice six million innocent lives, so many of them children, don't you think?
14. Netflix has 'Munich', finally
mea   (06.17.12)
15. The post at No.7 is not mine (End)
Sarah B   (06.17.12)
16. the german govt......
Calfu ,   Sydney   (06.17.12)
anything related to nazism is evil but german govt is to be blame and should bear the responsibilities!!! (end )
17. Sarah B: I am utterly confused
Steve   (06.17.12)
Will the real Sarah B. please stand up? Maybe simply posting as "Sarah" will end the problem. After all, how many Sarahs are there out there?
18. @Sarah B post 13
Sensible Brit ,   UK   (06.17.12)
I answered your query re excuses in post #11. They were largely European. As it turned out they'd have been happier in Europe or the US which of course is basically Euprean. Instead they tried to turn a corner of the ME into Europe and ...it hasn't worked. I agree that it was callous not to take them in. But shifting the problem onto other unsuspecting and innocent people was a disaster. We have always been friends with the Arabs. The British hold Egypt very dear for instance. Anyway Israel is here now and its more a case of damage limitation these days.
19. #13 is not me
Sarah B   (06.17.12)
20. Brit #18: Indeed Israel is here to stay.
Steve   (06.17.12)
For 2000 years, Jews have longed to return to our homeland, Israel. How can Jews be happier in the graveyards of Europe (Europe is one massive Jewish graveyard) or even in America when Europe and America are not our homeland?
21. Sarah B
Mike L ,   USA   (06.17.12)
You're getting the kind of insidious treatment that we are learning to expect from Israel Haters. I don't know what you can do other than change your moniker entirely, but I find it sad that you should need to. Nevertheless, Israel Thrives http://israel-thrives.blogspot.com/
22. Erm..my 'homeland' is Scotland
Sensible Brit ,   UK   (06.17.12)
Though I've never lived there I am of Celtic descent. I'm happy in the West Country. I prefer the city. Nothing is black and white Steve. Everyone is different. Respect difference. You are being too romantic and emotional. Which is fine if noone else suffers as a result Fact is... they are.
23. #4 when ever have the brits been sensible???
Arlene ,   Israel   (06.17.12)
This minute silence is for slaughtered sportmens at an event that supposidly should bring nations together in peace at a major sporting event.. It is not a minutes silence for Israel. If it had been any other countrys loss I would feel the same about it...its to remember NOT TO LET IT HAPPEN AGAIN.....do hope you have a peaceful Olympics London.
24. @ Mike L #21
Sarah B   (06.17.12)
thankyou for your kind words
25. Why is he still alive?
Yair   (06.17.12)
26. Nazis and Arabs
Shoshana Kaye ,   Irvington NJ USA   (06.17.12)
The Arabs and Nazis have been linked for many many years- I am quite annoyed that London won't have a moment of silence to remember the murdered athletes from Israel!!!! But then again, the Int'l. Olympic comm. has always been anti-semtic. But we must pre vail, and hoping Israel does well in these olympic games. GO ISRAEL!!! GO USA!!
27. Why neo? Just call them Nazis.
slavus   (06.17.12)
28. Go Israel, GO!
David ,   TN USA   (06.18.12)
Yes, I do hope Israel does well with the GOLD in the games. Take the GOLD Israel!
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