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Jewish Hospital in Berlin suspends circumcisions
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Published: 01.07.12, 08:15
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1. creeping Sharia
(07.01.12)
one nation, one law for all. I hope the ban is not overturned by protests from Jews and Muslims. Its unacceptable that child abuse among Germans should be defined by religious leaders of the Jewish and Muslim minority rather than by the state.
2. Jews should use competent orthodox mohel rather than doctor
Chaim   (07.01.12)
like most of the Jews in the world do.
3. Doing it when the boy is adult , and decides it
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (07.01.12)
brings a lot more problems . It takes more time to heal , more sufferings , and no [ hetero ! ] man is happy when another man manipulates his organ . In one TB i opposed circumcision , a reaction to some extremist charidi acts , extremism will give extreme reactions
4. As long as they allow actual killing of babies via abortion
Chaim   (07.01.12)
they have no right to prevent Jews from the mitzvah they have been fulfilling for thousands of years.
5. Abraham and Moses and all of General Joshua's army
Rivkah   (07.01.12)
were circumcised as adults. Sha'ul of Tarsus circumcised Timothy as an adult as a requirement of being Sha'ul's assistant in teaching about the Jewish Messiah, Yeshua of Nazareth. Scriptures says to circumcise on the eighth day of life and for medical reasons that is a sound time to do it since there is less blood flow. Adults who are circumcised suffer for days. Those who do not wish for their sons to be circumcised on the eighth day are saying they do not want their sons to be partakers of the blessings of Abraham the Patriarch. So it looks like Jews in Berlin or Germany may have to go to Israel right after the birth of a child to have a brit done there.
6. Give all Jewish babies circumcisions for medical reasons:
Moshe ,   Usa   (07.01.12)
And here they are > The Brit Prevents : 1] Phimosis (tightening of the foreskin which can’t be drawn back] 2] Balanitis (inflammation) 3] Cancer (no cases reported whereas a significant occurrence exists for the uncircumcised) 4] and offers a low incidence of cervical cancer in Jewish women according to “The Jewish Connection” by M. Hirsh Goldberg (a Bantam Book, Stein & Day Publisher, December 1977, page 185) 5] deceases such as those caused in trench warfare of WWI , which re-popularized circumcision.and 6] Aids (HIV) is lessened for circumcised males. Just find the doctors who can recognize these medical symptoms at the earliest childhood age. Yuk . . Yuk !
7. Dangerios Nidus
zivron   (07.02.12)
The foreskin is a dangerous nidus of infection of aids and urinary infections and who knows what else.Circimcusion ought be modified to make it safer. and certain nonhygenic aspects ommitted. Certainlt pain reduction and infection control is a necessity on todays knowledge.
8. 4 - they have no right to prevent Jews from the mitzvah
snag ,   USA   (07.02.12)
No one forces you to stay there, they want you out don't you get it ? ,...
9. Abortion yes, circumcision no?
Shalom ,   U.S.A.   (07.02.12)
Hypocrites!
10. smegma-brain putzke: let your kids decide on vaccinations.
rick ,   walnut creek   (07.02.12)
dummy, maybe, your children should decide if they go to school, learn to read, learn arithmetic, etc. of course, moron, you won't want to give them vaccinations. and, moral education will wait until they are 18. you do things the way you want with your children. the Jews have a right to raise their children in conformity with the Commandments. you should understand if this ancient people disregards the "wisdom" of some fool professor from germany. one can be sure he's trying his best. he's still a fool.
11. About time ,...
snag ,   USA   (07.02.12)
A barbaric ritual procedure in the civilised world where every household have a running water and plenty of soap - Add to the list a woman circumcision, halal and shechita slaugtering, outlaw it in the rest of the Union and get rid of the uninvited schnorrers in black and a rag hats ,...
12. #1 - Amen !!! ,...
snag ,   USA   (07.02.12)
13. #9 - Another circumcised ignorant ,...
snag ,   US   (07.02.12)
Abortion in Germany is technically permitted in the first trimester upon condition of mandatory counseling and a waiting period in rare exceptional cases ,... In Germany it's clear cut , it's the law of the land ,... Abortion in Israel is legal under certain circumstances, subject to the approval of a committee for pregnancy termination. Question - Who's committee and appointed by whom ? Today in China and N. Korea local committees decide if you can or can't have a baby or not, how does it work in Israel ? ,...
14. 'on the 8th day...'
Sherlock Holmes ,   London England   (07.02.12)
The Jewish religious rite of Bris Milah is prescribed for the eigth day after birth, health allowing. To tell us its a serious damage to the body, which it normally is not, and that we should change the Torah and wait until the boy is an adult, is to brush aside four millennia of Abrahamic tradition. Every medical procedure has an element of risk , even vaccinations that we give routinely, but according to Orthodox Jewish doctors, serious damage is almost unknown, if the bris is done by a qualified Mohel registered with a recognised religious body.'
15. If God wanted his favorites circumcized...
Ralphacinha ,   Thornhill, Ontario   (07.02.12)
If that God wanted you to be circumcized, he would create you circumcized, no? So by modifying what your God creates, you're going against 'his' will, no?
16. Circ
Joshua ,   usa   (07.02.12)
I have never read so many misguided, misinformed comment about circumcision in my life. You can say what ever you like to decent mutilation but you need to get your facts right first.
17. Chaim # 4 . They don't allow the killing of babies !
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (07.02.12)
Abortion is NOT about a baby but a foetus .
18. Smart people here who compare circumcision
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (07.02.12)
to abortion . Abortion is allowed in many civilised countries , it's NOT a murder . It's only a murder for rabbic catholics who see an unborn foetus as being a Human being [ that's why a catholic gynecologist let the mother die , to save the baby ] I don't know exactly , but i think that for Jews a foetus is not a living human .
19. No Jerw should live in Gwermany!
Reuven   (07.03.12)
It's still an anti-Semitic latrine!
20. That is the oldest argument
Elon   (07.04.12)
And it is wrong. The whole idea of a religious covenant is an act that shows faith and devotion to an ideal. No show of faith if you are born that way.
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