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Jerusalem teen gets 8 years for killing Arab man
Aviel Magnezi
Published: 12.07.12, 18:15
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1. defend yourselves but don't go looking for trouble
gerogos   (07.12.12)
all israelis have to be able to defend themselves but do not go looking for trouble. As difficult and provocative arabs are, be reasonable and don't use a knife at a fist fight. Don't behave like russian gangs or arafat.
2. should have locked him up for life
liron ,   TA   (07.12.12)
8 years. that's it.. the sentence is far too light..
3. 8 years for murder?!
Mike ,   USA   (07.12.12)
I never in my life heard about someone being jailed for 8 years for murder. Injustice redefined.
4. is there more?
Daniel   (07.12.12)
Is something missing here? How can the judge say the convicted man didn't know it was a racist crime when he and his friends yelled racial slurs while they beat and stabbed this young man to death? Eight years for murdering a random stranger on the street who did nothing to him? I wonder if that's because the victim is only an Arab.
5. Oh, for heavens's sakes
Noam ,   Jerusalem, Israel   (07.12.12)
Imagine if this had been a gang of Arab teenagers who had beat up a Jewish teenager while shouting racist anti-semetic insults. And the right can still seriously claim with a straight face that the justice system isn't biased in favor of Jews.
6. 8 years?
miguel ,   israel   (07.12.12)
this is a joke...this is murder....should be 30 years atleast....what if the tables were turned....arab murdered a jew in cold blood??? he wouldn't see daylight for years....
7. 8 years!?!??
Ze'ev ,   USA   (07.12.12)
That is ridiculous. Putting aside the whole race / national issue, any person that kills another person deserves a longer jail term. Add to that racist bias, and it should be even longer, possibly even life.
8. #3, #6, #7, yes you did. He is underage, it's a plea bargain
Avi   (07.12.12)
8 years to an underage for murder is to be expected. It's even more expected if it's reached in a plea bargain.
9. talk backs
new yorker ,   NY, USA   (07.12.12)
are Arabs any more "difficult" or "provocative" than Jews?
10. appalling! lowering 'self to level of the enemy
rick ,   walnut creek   (07.12.12)
this type of gang or mob violence and hatred is the specialty of the enemy. it is outrageous, unacceptable, and absolutely indefensible for Jewish youths to fall to that level. it is disgusting. it makes one sick. an innocent Arab has as much right as anyone else to walk the streets in safety.
11. Remember the Arab lynch mob in Haifa?
Jake   (07.12.12)
A few months ago, a mob of Arabs attempted lynch two off-duty Israeli soldiers in Haifa, yelling "filthy Jew" while beating them almost death. The judge released them scot free after determining that it could not be proven that the attack was "nationalistically motivated".
12. #6 If it would have been the reversed...
Alex   (07.12.12)
If it would have been the reversed situation, an Arab beat up and killed a Jew he'd been free in a year or two in a prisoner exchange with the palestinians. Like all the palestinian murderers and terrorists that was released in exchange for Gilad Shalit.
13. He is a minor
Ali ,   Tel Aviv   (07.12.12)
He is a minor in the eyes of the law, so I think that is why he only received 8 years. If it was the other way around the Arab would have gotten life in prison and then would have been released after a hunger strike, and been welcomed home as a hero....
14. Unaware that this was a race crime?
Poyani ,   Toronto, Canada   (07.12.12)
What does that even mean? How can someone attack a people based on their race, kill one of them, and then claim they were unaware it was a race crime? It makes no sense. The sentence is a joke. 8 years for a racist murder! That is unbelievable.
15. Mike # 8- 1st degree murder vs manslaughter
Arnold ,   Canada   (07.12.12)
He was found guilty of manslaughter not 1st degree murder. You as an American should know about that. Your jails are filled to the brim with both types of murderers. Too bad the city the Israeli came from did not hand out candies like they do in Arab cities when they kill Israelis.
16. # 13 Ali has more common sence than
David ,   On this planet   (07.12.12)
all of the posters put together in here
17. # 13; doesn't make sense
Ali Ahmad   (07.12.12)
an attempted murder committed by a 17 ears old Arab would've resulted in 10+ years sentence. An actual murder committed by an Arab with similar age, would've resulted in 24 years +. For all the released Arabs, their number don't amount to fraction of all injustices committed against Arabs. Just a simple search of crimes committed by Arabs and related sentences will show this fact, so enough of "make sense" stuff. As far as this Jewish teenage killer, he will go free in 6 years.
18. #9
jamie ,   Europe   (07.12.12)
Here in Europe: YES, al lot more.
19. stabbing
spookey ,   birmingham uk   (07.12.12)
if the arab had killed the jew the arabs would have given him a medal
20. When will his house be razed?
(07.12.12)
21. Israel racism
michael Pielet ,   israel   (07.12.12)
If it had been an arab accused of murdering a Jew, the arab would get off scot free.
22. Two sides to the story
Daniel ,   UK   (07.13.12)
Yes, 8 years is a joke, and he should be in jail much longer. The idea that he "didn't know" it was a racist attack sounds like something from another planet. And yes, an Arab youth who would kill a Jew in the same way would probably get 80 years or so, not 8. HOWEVER, let's not forget that the Arab youth would be released in a prisoner swap with the PA / Hamas / Hizballah after a few years......... While the Jewish youth will indeed be serving his entire sentence. Maybe the judge kept that in mind. I believe both Arab and Jewish murderers ought to receive equal terms and nobody should be released as part of any swap.
23. To: No. 17
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (07.13.12)
I am not for a moment condoning the sentence -- it was not nearly harsh enough given the depravity of the crime -- but you do realize that, acts of terrorism excepted of course, most Arabs who murder, murder other Arabs, don't you? And while murder is still relatively rare among Israel's Jewish community, those who do murder, murder other Jews. But with respect to this crime -- the sentence was much too light. The aggravating factors were simply too depraved to qualify the crime as manslaughter. The charge should have been murder, which carries a harsher sentence.
24. Violent crime rife among secular youth
jO jo   (07.13.12)
Charles should know it is ziltch in haredi circles, thank G-d may it last. Once upon a time "life" meant life. This killer must never be set free. If he admitted it, he should be hung.
25. If the shoe was on the other foot...
Marco ,   Spain   (07.13.12)
Would an Arab get only 8 years for killing a Jew?
26. "The convicted man did not know it was a racist crime"
Marco ,   Spain   (07.13.12)
You justice system is a joke. Ignorance of the law is NO excuse. Murder is murder, end of story...
27. To: No. 25
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (07.14.12)
No. He'd probably get acquitted, go on a hunger strike and be released, or wait for a prisoner swap.
28. If he didn't know it was a racist crime, it wasn't
Dan   (08.18.12)
Israel's moral confusion and legal corruption fully exposed! If he attacked the guy because he was an Arab, it was about race and he knew it was about race. The only way he could not have known this was about race is if he hadn't been thinking of his victim's race when he attacked, in which case it wasn't a racist crime.
29. Eight Years
The Bald Scosman ,   Tampa,USA   (08.18.12)
Some are more equal than others. When I read things like this it makes me ashamed to be Jewish. I thought we were supposed to be a light among the nations. I'm afraid we just let in some dark.
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