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The truth about migrants
Erik Arnold
Published: 22.07.12, 21:10
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1. In order to save the Jewish state
David ,   Haifa   (07.22.12)
first of all we have to put a border on the Green Land and have all the settlers return to their homeSTATE.
2. international Left has abandoned its own founding principles
Lee ,   UK   (07.22.12)
So the socialists should be more nationalist ?
3. Darkness
EM ,   Ra'anana   (07.22.12)
If we were ever meant to be the "light unto the nations"...the opinions expressed in this article...plunge us into darkness.
4. Illegal equals criminal mentality
Baruch ,   Israel/Houston   (07.22.12)
It disturbs me that this thing has to be seen from the left or the right while in fact it is a police and judicial issue. I have to return to Texas for my work, my family has chosen to stay here, why? Because of unregulated, irrational, and illegal immigration the region is deadlocked, violent, hostile, and dangerous. Contrary to what the press is reporting, I have heard only a few Americans exppress this as a racial issue. They see it as an adequacy, safety, and charcater issue. Amazing, while I have been back here, that is exactly what I hear from Israelis. This is unsafe, impractical, and a group of people who are not here because they wish to contribute. Experience in this is appearant: An individual who enters a country illegally has the intention of continuing criminal behaviors. Pretty simple, if you want to move to the North Pole, apply for a visa. They good folks at the North Pole can decise if you fit the chacrter/economic/educational requirments of a citizen of the North Pole. If so they will approve the visa. If not, they will deny the visa.
5. Let me be the first
Max ,   Broghton   (07.22.12)
See this is the problem with Op-Eds, a lot of times they are a waste of ink and space. ynet I know this cost in more ways than one.
6. BIASED "article " in pure 40's european style.
hot snow ,   tlv   (07.22.12)
7. Why should a SA Jew make Aliyah to another Mini African Stat
Alan ,   SA   (07.22.12)
8. Uk million times worse.stop complaining.
(07.22.12)
9. You don't hear English spoken in uk cities.
(07.22.12)
10. illegals
sue ,   jerusalem   (07.22.12)
no need for them. they encourage violence, bring in diseases............ we need to worry about our citizens.
11. Immigrants
Bertram ,   London, UK   (07.22.12)
I would go even further. There should be a ban all immigration to any country, no matter how big or small. It only causes trouble. People should stay in their place of birth, or even better, return to their place of ethnic origin. Those Patagonian Welsh have no business living in Argentina. There should be no Russians in Latvia and the Chinese should get out of Singapore and go back to ...China. Let us not wait a moment longer: Israel should undertake an ethno-religious sweep of the country to ensure a pure Jewish land. Then everyone will live in total security, peacy, harmony and well-being.
12. yes ! We must kick them out of Israel !
(07.22.12)
13. no need african deseases here !
(07.22.12)
14. to #1: it does not make any sense. But,
alex   (07.22.12)
what we realy have to do is to establish Citizens United self-defence group. This group will engage Africans, round them and push them either to Sinai or to ships.
15. They must go...and the Africans too!!
Mitchell ,   NYC   (07.22.12)
16. the truth about migrants
(07.23.12)
take out africans from the article and substitute jews and that is how people spoke about us. the person who wrote this article is a racist, and one whose values are in the gutter. he should be ashamed of himself. the article should not have been published . very sad to read.
17. Ban Jewish immigration to America, Europe, Australia
COLBERT ,   Treadmill, ISS   (07.23.12)
...or would that be antisemitic? Its OK for Jews to discriminate, but no one else.
18. Illegal Immigrants
Fortunee ,   Haifa, Il   (07.23.12)
Can't we make an agreement with the U.S. to send them there if they won't go to their homelands because it is too dangerous for them?
19. #1 David - Why a Greenline
BEN JABO (MACHAL) ,   ISRAEL   (07.23.12)
The Arabs ignored it in each and every war, we'll ignore it now, since it shouldn't have been placed there in the first place Settler are in the homestate of Israel Next point, is that the Arabs should return to their homelands..Fathti Hammad of Hamas had said they were a mixture from outlside
20. #2 EM SHOW US THE LIGHT
BEN JABO (MACHAL) ,   ISRAEL   (07.23.12)
Invite some of they to wine and dine with you and your family
21. The left is criminally insane. Deport all illegals.
Chaim ,   Israel   (07.23.12)
What leftist principles has the Israeli left abandoned? It is criminally insane. Leftists clearly have a death wish and the sick desire to take Israel down with them. Deport all illegals immediately, as any other functioning self respecting state would.
22. #1 Forget it. Judea/Samaria are ours forever!
Chaim ,   Israel   (07.23.12)
#1 David. Forget about it. We're not leaving our more than 3,500 year old ancestral heartland. Judea and Samaria are ours forever. Nobody's buying leftist scare mongering any more.
23. ok, lets analyze on our way perspective, not just yours.
DH ,   Tel aviv   (07.23.12)
"Most African illegal migrants are Eritrean and Sudans muslims". that is not right. ,,, most of Sudans and Eritrean in Israel are christian,, and Generally africans in Israel are Christians. "Africans In israel Are very existential threat to very survival of the state of Israel." ,, that is naked lier. Iran is very existential threat to existence of the State of Israel. Ok;; the Number of African Migrants are 50 to 60 thousand and they are from 54 different countries or whole the contenent of African ,, they all love Israel. incomparison,, here in Israel there is 300,0000 Phillipenes, 200,000 Indians 100' Srilankes,and Bangledeshes. there are punch of other European and Asian prostitutes. why the hell are you " israelis" obsess, your black guests from the great second biggest contenent of the world. who has all different civilizations and why don't you take to account their number and 54 states they come from. you are an idoit racists.,, we can see that the way your cognitive bais pull out you openion and froms Rhetoric article against us (African) we are great, keep your puch million Asians . we will be fine.
24.  liar and xenophobe
jay abouaf ,   Jaffa, Israel   (07.23.12)
you greatly exaggerate and lie about the rate of crime of the immigrants in our midst. you incite racism and violence against vulnerable strangers. you do a terrible injustice to Israel
25. To #9
Bertram ,   London, UK   (07.23.12)
You've noticed that too? I mean Golders Green is like a mini Tel Aviv.
26. Non Jews should not come to Israel - period.
Alexander ,   Tel Aviv, Israel   (07.23.12)
If non Jews hate Israel, stay out. If non Jews love Israel, you should love Israel's Jewishness instead of claiming Israel in the name of "globalization", multi-culturalism or Christianity. If you come here and start to challenge our demographic majority - either on purpose or undeliberately, either legally or illegally, you will automatically become my arch enemies. It doesn't matter if we are talking about illegal African immigrants, Arabs, foreign workers from Thailand, ethnic Russians or "romantic non Jewish men/women" from abroad who have found their "great love" in Israel - JUST STAY OUT. If you have found an Israeli/Jewish spouse, you either have to live separated or simply live with your spouse away from Israel. And no that doesn't mean that current non Jewish spouses in Israel should leave - in case little Elsie goes hysterical again - it means future non Jews will be denied Israeli citizenship. Whether you intend to kill Jews, or marry Jews or destroy our country demographically - I don't care - just stay out. Israel has ALREADY a 20% non Jewish population. If more non Jews come here, such as the debater "Eritrean, Eritrea" or if "Nour, One State" questions Israel's right to exist as a Jewish nation state, or if we are talking about the Nazi Jew hater "Gregg, Haifa" you will become my arch enemies and I will fight you all ruthlessly without mercy or pardon. If you even dare to think the thought of attacking my country's Jewishness you will become the arch enemies of 6 million Jews in Israel. Non Jews are no second class citizens in Israel, BUT YOU ARE GUESTS AND FOREIGNERS IN MY COUNTRY. Every statement to the contrary is a declaration of war.
27. To the "Jew" who calls himself Bertram
Alexander ,   Tel Aviv, Israel   (07.23.12)
For being a Jew you take Israel's existence very lightly and you take Israel's historical and legal rights to claim its historical homeland very lightly. It seems you want Israel erased since you have never once expressed favorable sentiments for de facto protecting Israel's national rights and national identity, but instead engaged in dull and boring monologues and "arguments" trying to cajole and persuade Israel into committing suicide. if you are ashamed of being Jewish - that's your problem. If you don't like Jewish nationalism - stay out. We won't force you how to live your life but you will certainly not force us to live a life on your conditions. With "Jews" like you who needs enemies? It seems Bertram thinks Jews have no right to be in majority and we have no right to exercise our independence and sovereignty and we have no right to exercise our legal right as a sovereign independent state to exepl Arabs from Judea, Samaria and Gaza. God knows why we have no right to exist but maybe the racist Bertram can explain why 22 Arab states should be taken for granted but the "Jew" Bertram never misses an opportunity to attack Israel. It seems that all ethnic groups are not equal in Bertram's eyes. What other countries do or do not is none of our concern. But we want to keep Israel as a Jewish state and that means making sure Jews are in majority. To have a "pure society" sounds a bit racist Bertram but there is a middle way between committing national suicide in the name of "multi-culturalism" as in the case of the UK or ethnic cleansing of Jews in 22 Arab states. The middle way is called "preserving your country's national ethnic character and majority populaton - preferably a 90-95% majority population."
28. if migrants to be returned home, how many Jews will be left
observer ,   Egypt   (07.23.12)
29. Missing the point
concerned ,   israel   (07.23.12)
The point is not if having refugees is good for us, the point is if they are refugees which many of them are we have an obligation to not send them back to countries where there lives may be danger, this applies irrespective of if they are Muslims from Sudan, or Christians for Eritrea.
30. Illegal immigration was a big problem in the years 1934-1948
COLBERT ,   Treadmill, ISS   (07.23.12)
...during "Aliyah Bet", when "over 100,000 people attempted to illegally enter Palestine". The new immigrants pushed the native Palestinians out of their homes and off their land, and eventually wiped Palestine off the map.
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