Opinion  Ron Ben-Yishai
Cold peace better than nothing
Ron Ben-Yishai
Published: 01.10.12, 13:03
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31. to#27Why does the right think its still the second intifada?
James Nichols   (10.02.12)
Attacks from West Bank since 2005 have largely ended. The PA security forces by all accounts have been successfully in fighting crime and terrorists in the West Bank under Abbas. Unlike during the second intifada; when Israelis were lynched if they got lost in the West Bank, they are returned safetly. How does denying Palestinian's building permits while not dismantling illegal outposts like Yitzhar that attack Palestinians and destroy IDF property enhance Israel's security?
32. LIKUD-REPUBLICAN ALLIANCE PLAYING WITH ISRAELI/JEWISH LIVES.
Nowhere Man ,   Metropolis, Zionn   (10.02.12)
Likud is taking all israelis as hostages in a one-sided unilateral policy of denial of reality. We will pay a HEAVY price for that, israelis and diaspora jews alike, and will NEVER get back our missed opportunities. ISRAEL HAS BECOME DUMB.
33. Cold peace? It is current reality.
leo ,   usa   (10.02.12)
Why do you need to do anything else to achieve what you already have? . Surely you are not talking about worthless piece of paper, do you.
34. # 2 There is no mention of "right of return" in article
Stan ,   Israel   (10.02.12)
It's a pity that "fear mongers" always torpedo efforts to reach a Peace Agreement. NO ONE IN HIS RIGHT SENSES WOULD AGREE TO THE RETURN OF PALS TO ISRAEL !
35. # 28 Those who do not agree to withdrawal will always use
Stan ,   Israel   (10.02.12)
this excuse. So define "viable and defendable borders" I remind you that in 1973 our borders were the Bar Lev line on the Suez Canal, and Mt Hermon "the eyes of Israel' by which we could see all Syria's military activity almost as far as Damascus. I presume that these were "defendable borders" So what happened? On the second day of the war Dayan stated that Israel was facing a holocaust.
36. cure????
Dr.B   (10.02.12)
WE USE PAINKILLER IN MOST OF DISEASES BUT IT IS NOT CURATIVE .. O YOU THINK IT IS ONLY THE PALATINIANS ARE SICK ????
37. #35 say what?!?
(10.02.12)
So you say that hard facts, rational analysis and reality are an excuse? And at the same time you say that a messianic belief in the failed policy of "withdrawal at any price" is normative? It is no wonder that psychiatrists are increasingly recognizing Leftism as a severe mental illness.
38. To # 37
Stan ,   Israel   (10.02.12)
It seems that people (like you) who believe that constant instability and conflict are better than comprimise and peace, are not able to hear a different view without becoming insulting and unpleasant. Be that as it may, I tell you that there is no such thing as a defensible border. In May 2009 the Arab states, at Obama's request, agreed to change the Saudi peace initiative. Refugees would not return to Israel, and the future Palestinian state. would be demiltarized. If you think that Palestinians with Ten Thousand or even Fifty Thouand Kalatchnikov rifles could overrun Israel then I pity you. On the other hand if you think that time is on Israel's side, and that this problem will away, the I pity your children and your grandchildren. If we don't get out of the occupied territories, Israel's fate will be like that of White South Africa which after more than 20 years of boycott ceased to exist.
39. #38. Leftist bogeymen don't scare Israel any more.
Chaim ,   Israel   (10.02.12)
Leftist bogeyment don't scare Israel any more. Leftists tried to scare Israel into ceding Judea and Samaria with the "Arab population bomb" hoax. That didn't work. Now you're trying to scare us by saying the big bad U.N. will hurt us. We aren't scared. This land is ours now and forever. Israel wants and craves strength. Not pathetic leftist weakeness and appeasement. Judea and Samaria legally belong to Israel and we can easily prove this to the satisfaction of every single person of good will. Give it up, Stan. Your scaremongering won't work any more.
40. # 38
Stan ,   Israel   (10.02.12)
I sincerly hope that you are correct.
41. #40. Israel grows stronger each year, despite the U.N.
Chaim ,   Israel   (10.02.12)
#40. The bottom line is that the U.N. threw everything it had at Israel. It condemned Zionism as racism. It sides with fictional Palestine all the time. It must be noted that Israel was much smaller and weaker when the U.N. demonized Zionism as racism. The U.N. can't hurt us. Only we can hurt ourselves. Hopefully, we will no longer make the loony choice to do so.
42. Palestians blocked Jerusalrm
zivron   (10.03.12)
The Palestinians laid siege to Jerusalem after the Partition Planafter the Sboah after the White Paper Islam did not take in the European Jews denying themselves superpower status and not saving the People of the Book The Prophet's Mercy.
43. Blah, blah, blah, blah
RealityCheck ,   Austin, USA   (10.10.12)
Change the Palestinian Charter Stop terrorism No capital in Jerusalem. You've got Gaza Control about 90 percent of the West Bank. That's Palestine. Take it or Leave It.
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45. hahaha
(10.28.12)
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