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Jewish gravestones desecrated in New Zealand
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Published: 19.10.12, 07:25
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31. Mevin , 25 . i hate his writings
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (10.19.12)
No need to meet then .
32. 23 , American2 , we do what's possible
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (10.19.12)
NZ , as a country , can't be hold responsible for what some of her inhabitants do , the same with Israel . The police does what they can , but it's difficult to catch those who did it . Jews , most of them , support Israel , yes . Israel will be a refuge for them in case of .....
33. New Zealand's true colors and #6: Go back!
David ,   Karmiel, Israel   (10.19.12)
But when they call you a F"""""g Jew, don't come crying back here! No says you must stay, so get out! As for New Zealand, well, we all remember the YnetNews article in January 2009 when the Gaza Operation, Caste Lead, was on to STOP the Hamas murderers from bombing Sderot and the Southern Settlements, in which Jews and Israelis were banned from pubs! We all remember the rabid Antisemitic former New Zealand PM, Helen Clark, and her vicious attacks on Israel. So Jason #6, how long do you think with the Muslims multiplying and calling for Shria Law in Oz and the rise of rampant Antisemitism worldwide, for the good folk of Australia to stick the knives in the backs of Jews! I have been here for 27 years from South Africa where I lived a life that most on the planet never dared dream of and yes, not all is right here but when you come to a new country, be prepared for the worst and you might just get a surprise!
34. #33 give me time machine and i'll go back 27 years
Jason ,   Sydney / Tel Aviv   (10.19.12)
And I wonder how different it was for olim then compared to now.. You left South Africa because you could see your "white Africa paradise" ending. So, of course you wouldn't go back then. Different times, very different times. Judging by the red bolding of my talkback. It looks like I'm not alone in my opinion "mate" . :-)
35. #2 (Oh very, another fake American
BEN JABO (MACHAL) ,   ISRAEL   (10.19.12)
Anyone that start off with his being an American, isn't, that's always the case As for your answer, just as soon as America returns the land it stole from the Native Indians, and also returns what they stole from the Mexican's Meanwhile, back at the ranch, Christian's are complaining about MuSLIMES treat them, it's all over the NET, including Church arson in Egypt & Iraq, while the Christian's are at prayer, with them being inside A muSLIME that that acts as a terrorist, is treated better than he deserves, he should have been shot on the spot
36. To #21. Dead-or-Alive Anti-Semetism
michael weizmann ,   Auckland,New Zealand   (10.20.12)
Well said Charles. Obviously your observation applies with greater force to the Deceased. Not that it can be proven they were targeted here. But their descendants and the present Auckland and New Zealand Jewish Community certainly were. Perhaps in ignorance, but targetted nevertheless. It reminds me of the fire-bombing of the Israeli Embassy in Wellington during the 9-year reign of PM Helen Clark (Ms), who made no comment at all on the attack. The fire-bombing got no mention at all in the national media, except on New Zealand TV Tele-Tex, where I glimpsed it early on in the morning of the attack. The Tele-Text report was withdrawn after only 20 minutes, possibly upon the disapproval of it by Ms Clark, who had decisive control over New Zealand Television at the time, exercised through one of her close friends she had appointed as its CEO. So, as uncaring Kiwis would put it, "There ya go, Mate".
37. no 17
Tanya ,   New Zealand   (10.20.12)
true zionist you are a very sad little person to interpret what i said as anti Israel, read it again. I have a huge family here that i love who are some of the warmest loving people i have ever met, i am in awe of their family spirit and love for each other and love coming here and spending time here, and would move here if it came about, My husband loves his country and what it stands for but how dare you belittle anyone for wanting to make a better life for themselves and their families, how dare you be so high and mighty in your zionism as to impose it on others, You have no right to demean my husband for the road he has taken, and to make such a school yard comment as to our childrens intentions in the future, they are being brought up to respect their heritage and culture and Jewishness and to respect others of theirs likewise, there is no magic ball that will tell us what they will do as adults but i am sure that we are building two good well rounded children who would not do such a foul thing as desecrate graves of Jews... a few idiots desecrate Jewish graves in NZ and suddenly we are all Jew Haters, now that is pathetic and somewhat ridiculous to boot. You seem like a kid throwing his toys from the cot and having a tantrum!! Because you came to Israel does not make it right for everyone, how dare you propose to know anyone elses circumstances or reasons for doing what they do. as for the guy who commented on Helen Clark....totally agree, she was an anti semetic rabid idiot,a lesbian living a lie married to a man, but most people i come into contact with are pro Israel, a few pro Pal, but there are always going to be the ignorant or the wailing lefty do gooders, who are usually uninformed, but generally in NZ you will find most people have no idea about the conflict...they know it exists but they dont know more than that. To Label NZ and it's people as Anti Semitic is outrageous. and Mr True Zionist if some idiot writes crap on my gravestone then let him deal with that when he meets his maker.
38. 33 and a link to nz news site.
Tanya ,   New Zealand   (10.20.12)
http://nz.news.yahoo.com/a/-/mp/15161052/graves-being-cleaned-after-vandalism/ by the way no# 33 you dont need to go to any country outside of Israel to hear and i quote you "f'''''''g Jew! you can here it here in Israel. Pull your head in. In regards to Helen Clark i agree, she was a rabid anti Semitic UN loving idiot, and an imbarrassment to NZ. That does not make NZers anti Semitic nor anti Israel on a whole. In my job i get to speak to many people from all walks of life and most people have either been to Israel, want to go or have pro Israel stance. a few have no idea what is going on (probably on a whole most have no idea what is going on) and a few pro Pal. but mostly only positive. It does not reflect the countries stance but it does say a lot. Definately most of NZ would not be Anti Semitic, a lot wouldnt even know what It is! We are pretty tolerant as a whole but just like any other western nation we have our pros and cons, as does Israel. I love Israel as does my husband, at this time of our lives we choose to live in NZ, and that is right for us, who are you to tell us what or where we should live, we are doing what is right for us as a couple and as a family, with the full respect and blessing of his family whom all live in Israel. You obviously have no idea of the strength of the Australians and their love of their country and way of life, the day sharia law comes into law in Oz will be the day the moon turns purple and cries tears of blood.
39. 37 Tanya In the very beginning...
ORA ,   JERUSALEM   (10.21.12)
German Jews were as confident as you are. Be vigilant and alert. Good luck.
40. Jews can live anywhere. why not?
sue ,   jerusalem   (10.21.12)
but if they move to Israel, then they must keep the Mitzvos-that is the condition that we can live in the land [read Book of Joshua]-shalom aleichem my brothers!
41. Hostility towards olim
David ,   UK   (10.21.12)
The hostility towards English speaking olim from other English speaking immigrants is horrible and perhaps explains why aliyah from Anglo countries has been such a flop. Let's face it, the overwhelming majority of immigrants to Israel and before that to Palestine have been economic migrants from poor countries and refugees from Eastern Europe and Arab lands. Aliyah from the US, England, Canada and Australia has been a drop in the ocean.
42. anywhere is better than israel
coon baloon ,   geneva   (10.22.12)
created by heritage hating communists who glorify arab magotism and marx. exterminate the leftist nazis - and then we can talk !
43. New Zealand anti-Semitism low
David N. ,   Haifa, ISRAEL   (10.22.12)
In order to encourage Aliyah to Israel of all of our people, we should not have to denigrate ALL NZ because of what some New Zealanders have done in a graveyard. NZ has had a small share of anti-Semitic incidents, but I prefer to think of going home to Israel as a positive act of love for the Covenant of Land and for God, and our own people, and not as a negative act of escape. I am a direct decendant of a Prime Minister of New Zealand who was a practicing, Zionist Jew. Sir Julius Vogel probably could not have gotten such a position today. Modern, secular, pluralistic societies do not always tolerate mature, distinct faiths very well. The pluralists often have unintended prejudices against people of strong, organised monotheistic faiths who are also a people, with a real land. Let's see how NZ votes in the UN. How's that record? NZ has a mixed record, but as I look around the world, that seems to be all nations. The US has never been free of some pretty ugly anti-Semitism, even from people like Billy Graham and Richard Nixon! Not to mention our own people, like Henry Kissinger, and MERETZ members. So don't get so hyped-up over NZ.
44. arrests made
John ,   Christchurch, nz   (10.23.12)
Nz police have arrested two men for this vandalism, this behavior is NOT tolerated in New Zealand.
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