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Teen couple tries to commit suicide; boy killed by police
Noam (Dabul) Dvir
Published: 19.10.12, 12:41
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1. Suicide by cop
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (10.19.12)
Coward's way out.
2. Dear God in Heaven
(10.19.12)
This story makes my stomach hurt. Heartbreaking and unnecessary.
3. #1
yosef ,   williamsburg US   (10.19.12)
I bet everyone wishes their world was as holy and black & white as yours!
4. #1..Sarah B..
Malone ,   Hfx   (10.19.12)
As usual,I agree 100%.
5. This week's parsha... suicide forbidden
Ben ,   Toronto, Canada   (10.19.12)
6. YOUNG PEOPLE TALK TO SOMEONE
Mo ,   Israel   (10.19.12)
Why could these younsters not talk to someone. If not their parents, someone out there. Why did they feel that putting and end to their lives was the only answer..............
7. #1 'Sarah B'
Sarah B ,   Tel Aviv/London   (10.19.12)
But surely in the land of milk and honey that is Israel. Nobody would want to commit suicide. Afterall we have come home
8. Prayers
Adam Neira ,   Paris, France   (10.19.12)
Prayers for Raz Atias, obviously a troubled teenager.
9. desperate
mike north ,   karmiel il   (10.19.12)
No one can imagine the desperation these young people must have gone through to make such a decision-but why did the friends not try to stop it if they were so informed-I fear our youth have been numbed into living life from the internet-parents!!!! watch out for your kids
10. Ah all that happiness in the Holy Land!
roger ,   zurich switzerland   (10.19.12)
11. No one knows the anguish...
Orly ,   Jerusalem, Israel   (10.19.12)
... of someone who commits suicide. It is very hard to decide that the "right" thing to do is save the person. Many, many will try to commit suicide again. It's not just enough to treat the symptom, one has to address the source, otherwise whom are you doing a favor?
12. #7 FAKE SARAH B.
BEN JABO (MACHAL) ,   ISRAEL   (10.19.12)
Nothing quite like personal experience ,You won't truly know until you try it, you may like it, I know I will, it would have meant getting rid of another piece of useless trash
13. No Sara B
not Sara B ,   Israel/not USA   (10.19.12)
Just another reminder that "Sara B" never existed. While I feel flattered that my parody of a frustrated, embittered old hag has attracted so many imitators, I'm now tired of the game and leave it to anyone who remains interested
14. Another American import-solve the problems with a pistol
miki ,   tampa   (10.19.12)
15. To: No. 3 and No. 7
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (10.19.12)
I can understand, if someone were terminally ill and in unbearable pain, that they may prefer to end their life with some dignity. That's usually a choice made with family members; one which most family members would understand and likely support. But a youth? What a supreme act of selfishness! There is nothing worse in this world than burying one's child. It distorts the natural order of things. Imagine the pain of his parents, siblings, grandparents, aunts, uncles -- what sane person could deliberately want to inflict such suffering on their family? Instead of wallowing in self-pity, Mr. Attias should have spent some time volunteering in a pediatric oncology ward for terminally ill children. Perhaps the sight of so many youths who want desperately to live -- and will not -- would have been beneficial.
16. #10 roger - It appens everywhere
BEN JABO (MACHAL0 ,   ISRAEL   (10.19.12)
including when Christian's Crusader invaded the Holy Land Or when the Swiss refused to allow entry to Jews that were fleeing the Nazis.
17. #3
Belinda ,   Texas, USA   (10.19.12)
My husband is a police officer & has been for 30 years. You'd be shocked at how often "suicide by cop" happens. It truly is the cowards way out. How would you like to be that officer that ended the life of a teenager? I can tell you from experience, those officers live with that EVERY DAY for the rest of their lives.
18. The post at No. 13 is not mine.
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (10.19.12)
Funnily enough, I actually know how to spell my name.
19. #18 Sarah B. (real one)
BEN JABO (MACHAL) ,   ISRAEL   (10.19.12)
All of those fake Sarah's running around do get confusing However, #13 said that she WASN'T SARAH B.
20. #17 and cops
yosef ,   williamsburg US   (10.19.12)
Look lady, I'm not concerned about what you've experienced because we all could write volumns about our own painful lives and what we are dealing with but that is unecessary. You actually made my point in your attempt at self righteousness... reread my post. Are we ignoring the fact that these were K I D s?? Not grown policemen, not drug addicts, etc. Children. I'd rather my child be a coward at 17 & 18 when life is still innocnet instead of presumptiously matured machines!
21. #17
Dan ,   Aus   (10.19.12)
Yosef, #17 made a perfectly valid point. Suicide by cop is a cowards way out and it damages the lives of those police involved. She was not being self righteous. She wa just stating a fact. Anyone thinking of taking their lives should speak out and obviously get help.
22. 20... u r way out of line
(10.19.12)
23. # 10 Roger from Zurich
tania   (10.20.12)
I will assume, then, that there are no suicides, no murders no calamities in your country. Right Roger?
24. Screw ball kids...his dad is a major and he was a major
Al   (10.20.12)
f up. You shoot at a cop you deserve death...end of story.
25. What a terrible Jihad for death
Ross ,   N.Y.   (10.20.12)
Oh what a terrible Jihad for death, so much ofan effort to kill,,,,, to kill someone.
26. @20
Belinda ,   Texas, USA   (10.20.12)
You need professional help dude!
27. To all the righteous t/b's :
barbara ,   Haifa Israel   (10.20.12)
I can't count how many times I have thought of suicide in my youth. Somehow, thank God, I fought it. But now, older and wiser, I know that if parents were more supportive and were willing to listen or observe, that such thoughts wouldn't enter our heads. It is the parents' responsibility, that if you give birth to a child - that that child is given the guidance and support they need to strengthen their character to live in an "ideal" world.
28. #24 al - you're a major screwball
BEN JABO (MACHAL) ,   ISRAEL   (10.20.12)
29. #4 miki - Try it, we'll like it
BEN JABO (MACHAL) ,   ISRAEL   (10.20.12)
30. #23
roger ,   zurich switzerland   (10.20.12)
There are fewer suicides, fewer murders, fewer rapes, less crime in general in Switzerland than in Israel. People are happier here and a lot kinder.
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