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Gaza activists' new weapon: Carrier pigeons
Yossi Yehoshua
Published: 29.10.12, 12:55
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1. Attention Sarah B and others
(10.29.12)
Those of you who continually said there was no cargo or no medical goods on board the "Estelle" should read this article, particularly " Between the crates containing toys and medications, they discovered..."
2. Time For Us To Train Some Hunting Falcons
Yishai Kohen ,   YeShA, Israel   (10.29.12)
We can beat them at low-tech too.
3. #1
Alex   (10.29.12)
Actually, no one ever said it had no cargo, just no humanitarian one.
4. to #2
Marco ,   Milan   (10.29.12)
Excellent idea.
5. Usefull Idiots can be wery Energetic !.
Arn. ,   Sweden.   (10.29.12)
6. I wouldn't have just tasered them -
Barbara ,   Haifa Israel   (10.29.12)
they got off lucky.....
7. #1 Since when were pigeons
BEN JABO (MACHAL) ,   ISRAEL   (10.29.12)
Medical Supplies ? As you may recall, both the Karin A & Santorini posed as inncoent vesslels until arms & munition were found on board
8. #2, there is cheaper solution - face covering and
leo ,   usa   (10.29.12)
IDF insignia. That way there'll be no one to pin it on.
9. Tasers
John ,   Israel   (10.29.12)
Soooo......Has anyone seen photos of activists being tasered yet? Or are the digital images that the pidgeons carried still being photoshopped?
10. Shapira was not tasered this time.
PeacePalestine   (10.29.12)
I think they wanted to send out the pictures on Shapira's previous tasering. Is he really helping the Palestinians with his stubborn support for the Hamas regime?
11. To: No. 1
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (10.29.12)
Medications? Try over-the-counter (expired) cold remedies and aspirin! Toys? Wow, real "humanitarian" aid. You're a dupe.
12. falcons
john ,   toronto   (10.29.12)
Let the birds do the work but facts should be known.
13. re 1#
nigel ,   london   (10.29.12)
Israel provides over 110 tonnes of aid per week. Do you think the very small amount of items on this ship of fools would make any difference ? Would be more useful to send the ship to Syria where thousands have died in the past few months. Perhaps Israel should re divert its aid to the people in the Eshkol region who are targeted constantly by deliberate attacks on civilians. The Estelle was a publicity seeking pointless exercise. People are not starving in Gaza. People are not dying from a lack of aid. They are dying because their leaders allow the firing of missiles from civilian centres in the hope that deaths are caused by the return of fire. Go protest about atrocities that are occurring through the region.. Start protesting about the barrages of missiles fired daily from Gaza. How about the ethnic cleansing of Christians in Egypt bet you don't comment on any of the above -I wonder why that would be !
14. @1: Sarah the B and others will never admitt that israel/
(10.29.12)
/israelis could possible be wrong. It is israhell right or wrong. It is G-d's will.
15. To: No. 14
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (10.29.12)
Hey, sweetness, in my case at least, it is a matter of that which is just. As to G-d's will -- I don't discount it. I cannot see G-d. Of course, I cannot see gravity either, but that doesn't stop me from believing in it. But I am not an absolutist. I base my judgments on historical and documented fact. Does that bother you? Tough! Care to explain your "reasoning" (to the extent you are capable of intellectual activity) as to why terrorist elements in Gaza, and those who support them, should be allowed to flout an internationally recognized and fully legal blockade? Oh! Here's a secondary question: Gaza is hardly suffering. They are the beneficiaries of FREE Israeli electricity, FREE Israeli fresh water and FREE Israeli humanitarian aid to the tune of well over 10,000 metric tons per week. Why didn't the ESTELLE sail for Syria? Syria is in dire need of humanitarian aid. Kind of puts paid to your pathetic bleating, doesn't it? Find another cause. I assure you that there are far more worthy and deserving causes throughout the world. But none of them have any bearing at all upon Israel, so the likes of you just aren't interested, eh? Think we haven't figured that one out?
16. Anyone who wants to deliver aid to the overflowing markets
BH ,   Iowa   (10.29.12)
can dock in Ashdod. We all know this is an attempt to open a weapons pipeline to the gaza terrorist base.
17. better than US Navy Aircraft Carriers
observer ,   Egypt   (10.29.12)
it carried kids' toys prohibited by Israel's siege on Gaza for the last 7 years. for 7-year and younger Gaza kids, toys are humanitarian dire need, considering the long siege.
18. The "activists" haven't thought it out...
M. Davison ,   Ra'anana, Israel   (10.29.12)
Any SIM cards or camera memory cards will have to be sent off BEFORE any IDF soldiers board the ship. Can anyone imagine that IDF soldiers would stand by with their hands in their pockets and watch while these so-called "activists" (read pathetic publicity-hounds) take the cards out of their cellphones and cameras, pick up a pigeon, which is far more difficult than it looks unless you have plenty of experience, attach the card to the pigeon's leg and let it fly? Sending off the cards before any IDF soldiers board is self-defeating-- they can't hope to get the images they want to if there aren't any soldiers on their boat, can they? At most, these "activists" can photograph or video the procedure for stopping an attempt at breaking the blockade, something that could easily turn to Israel's advantage, as long as the IDF follows the procedures described in the San Remo Manual. That would be a laugh-- the "activists" themselves presenting proof that Israel wasn't the one to break international law. Back to the drawing board, Orville, that one will never fly...
19. Pigeon suicide bombers?
Dave ,   Montreal, Canada   (10.29.12)
Logical next step, no? ;)
20. RE 17#
nigel ,   lONDON   (10.29.12)
was this the kidn of kids toysused at Hamas summer camps. Kids toys do not constitute aid shipments if your government would just stop the mass import of missiles into Gaza the situation might be a little easier. However, with your esteemed leader calling for the destruction of Israel I guess this is not likely BTW - How many Coptics have been persecuted and killed there ? Perhaps we should ask for a flotilla to help them.
21. Report them to PETA
Cynthia ,   USA   (10.29.12)
Using pigeons to further the Palestinian terror agenda. Makes you wonder if dhimmis like Jonatan Shapira visit Gaza or ever watch the news. Israel delivers more than the required amount of humanitarian aid daily to the Palestinians. The Palestinians can augment this aid by using foreign aid for economic independence. Instead, they spend the money on terror and for decades, remain dependent while their leaders live lavish lifestyles. This is what the stool pigeons on board the flotilla support.
22. #1 - I believe they commented on the amount
William ,   Israel   (10.29.12)
There was so little on the ship that it was apparent this wasn't a deliver of humanitarian aid. It could have been shipped for cheaper by the local postal service, These crates were token items. Not so different from the Mavi Marmara which carried also token items, like expired drugs, basic med equipment which Gaza already had, and some food stuffs which Gaza was overflowing in already. Actually, the flotillas seem like a maritime garbage transfer service.
23. #14 - why admit something that's not true?
William ,   Israel   (10.29.12)
Why would Israel admit to being wrong when the UN has agreed with her, so has Hamas on several occasions, and the activists continue to prove Israel correct. Where is the humanitarian aid? There is none - and all the cargo has been documented and photographed by the media in the past. Is this a provocation? Absolutely, the activists admitted to this already. Is Gaza occupied? NO. Haniyeh said so himself. And the UN justified the limited blockade around her due to the Hamas-declared war on Israeli citizens. I understand that facts are a harsh blow to your agenda,,,,but they just won't go away with your wishing. When will your ilk ever realize that you're just....wrong?
24. # 1 you don't make sense.
bad Assed Jew ,   United States   (10.29.12)
25. Pigeons
Green Baron ,   Bethesda, MD USA   (10.29.12)
Maybe it's the ESTELLE's way of trying to flip someone the bird?
26. #17 BLIND OBSERVER
BEN JABO (MACHAL) ,   ISRAEL   (10.29.12)
Tjos time it MAY have carried toys, However, both the Karin A & Santorini were carrying weapons & munitions Easy way to solve the young kid problem, have their folks spend less time in bed, creating them
27. PIGEON PIE, YUMMY!
BEN JABO (MACHAL) ,   ISRAEL   (10.29.12)
28. Beef, Lamb & now Pigeon Kabobs
Ish Kabibble ,   Delancey   (10.29.12)
with chips sounds appetizing
29. What a joke!
Danny ,   London England   (10.30.12)
As everyone agrees there is no humanitarian crisis in Gaza and as almost everyone knows Hamas is a terrorist group harming the peace process, these flotillas are becoming a joke. With all the human rights abuses in the world why can't these activists find a real cause, such as Syria, to fight for?
30. #2: Because killing is the way to stomp out the truth
Andrfew ,   Los Angeles, USA   (10.30.12)
Your response is a Rohrschach test response. "Truth?" "Kill!"
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