While no one with any sense of history or geopolitical reality would view the 1967 borders as a sensible starting point, at some time in the future negotiations must eventuate... all who are tired of fighting, draining of national energy, and arguably feel there are rational minds somewhere on both sides. Sanctions against a move by the PA to seek observer status will serve no useful purpose. sara will counter these folks are 'ersatz' yet ethnithities now termed 'arabs' have populated the area defined by the old British mandate pre-dating the Judaic kingdoms, and are named throughout our Torah.

I f the Palestinians win access to the International Criminal Court Israel should on day 1 file charges against them for firing missilles from Gaza. Immediately put them on the defernsive.

And what "occupation" are you talking about? Occupation according to International Law means that State A has conquered State B as a result of war. No "Palestinian" state existed in 1967, 1949, 1948, 1947, or 100, 200, 500, 1000, 5000, 10.000 or 100.000 years ago. You use the invented "Palestinian" people as an excuse to hate and destroy Israel. You care nothing for the "Palestinians". 1) Why is "Palestine" a Roman/Latin name? 2) Why is there no letter "p" in Arabic? 3) Nationalism is alien to Arabs who have, for 1400 years, lived as nomads and Beduins in multi-ethnic and multi-racial "Arab" empires whose majority population - locals, subjects, soldiers, mercenaries, scientists, mathematicians, physicians and merchants, were no ethnic Arabs, merely Arab speaking Persians, Kurds, Turks, Jews, Berbers and Africans. Why is that? 4) There is no "Palestine" in the Bible or the Koran. Why? 5) The Bible and the Koran BOTH admit that Israel is the Jewish homeland. How come? 6) Jewish/Israelite history started 2000 B.C.E in Israel - 4000 years ago. Arab history of the original Arabians, started in the 7th century C.E. 1400 years ago, in the southwestern corner of the Arabian peninsula, hundreds of kilometers away from Israel, 2600 years AFTER the start of Jewish civilization. How can Arabs be the "natives" of Israel? 7) Most Arabs arrived in Israel as recently as the 1920s, 1930s and 1940s. How is that ancient history and how does that make "Palestinians" the "natives"? 8) When and where exactly did a "Palestinian" state, republic, nation state, kingdom, city state, duchy, principality or empire exist in recorded history, what are the names of kings and dynasties, cities, towns, villages and currency and why is there not a single ancient civilization mentioning anywhere any "Palestinian" state, civilization, nation or people? To conclude: only modern day Jews can claim ancient Israelite and Canaanite ancestry. Arabs came from the Arabian peninsula. The "Palestinians" - at least most of them, arrived in Israel for the first time in the 1920s, 1930s and 1940s - and NONE of them originate in Israel. The "Palestinians" belong to a DOZEN separate ethnicities. Learn history and stop posting garbage.

The world wants a Palistinians state so why is Isreal so scared. Is it not enough that Isreal limits there electricity, cuts their water, starves their population, detains their children and continually bombs them! The Palistinians throw rocks and crude missiles while Isreal sends in their war machine. For every Isrealy that is killed 1700 Palistinians are killed. Isreal needs to grow up and the United states needs to stay out of this. Do the right thing

The occupying power would never allow that. It would mean giving Palestinian land back to its rightful owners, and the the kiss of death for the illegal settlements and the deluded dream of a Greater Israel.

While I would LOVE to see the "Palestinians" get kicked into Jordan, and would gladly participate in any such operation to evict them, the day after it happens, Israel will be slapped with sanctions from the West. I'd love to see it happen, but I don't think it can. The best Israel can do is at least offer incentives so that Arabs emigrate voluntarily abroad. Hey, maybe the Muslim-loving Eurabians will take them.

How can you evict us from our own country? You both are real funny, dumb and dumberer. Oh amd Sarah, I see that even YNet finds your rants and diatribe to be in bad taste. Oh and Sarah, congrats on the reelection of Barak Hussein Obama. Ersatz Land

What planet do you live on?? Since 1948 the arabs have tried to anhialate us and before that the romans, the nazis the spanish etc etc!! In 2005 Ariel Sharonunilaterall took Israel out of Gaza with no preconditions (pity he didnt stay healthy so we could all see what he had envisioned) So when you espouse the horors of the poor palastiain are subject to and whatever other drivel you spew remember this. Hamas forcibly took power of gaza from fatah and since 2005 Israel has again come under fire from its "new neighour" Your views are narrow minded and frightening to boot, especially when one considers the strong support from you fellow countrymen. Makes us all wonder what really is wrong in that tiny little brain of yours!!

Ok your Muslim brother won the election. So what ? Can rest assured he can do $$$k all to Israel. Majority of Americans are on our side. Are you believer in your Quran ? I am sure you are. Please read it again. Well I can tell you in you Quran nothing is mentioned about Jerusalem, Hebron, Schhem, and other parts of Israel, but in our bible which is thousands of years older than your religion these name does exist. Very simple question for you Mr Ahbal. Who were BNEI ISRAIL ? For sure they were not Chinese, Japanese, Koreans, Hindus, Buddists. neither Islam or Muslims, they were called AL YAHUD. Mr Arab pack your case and go to your land which is called Arabia. Judea & Samaria, stands for JEWS.

his bid at the UN . They are also fed up with their "own" muslims , they don't need more . In fact , the so called "palestinians" were NEVER welcome in a muslim land . In kuwait they could only own 49 % of their businness [ a non Jewish businnessman told me ] During Egypt's occupation of gaza they were not allowed to settle in Egypt .

to the United States would be an Israeli pre-emptive strike on Iran before the election, but fairly close thereto. Obama and his bumbling Arabist buddies will be caught with their pants down. They'll be furious with the State of Israel, but so what? A Romney victory will thus be assured, and we will be rid of the worst American president in history.

Perhaps the West Bank should determine it's own borders and, like the PA, apply to the UN for the the same status as the PA. Call yourself Judah, and as the PA tries to upgrade it's UN status, Judah could do so in tandem.. How could the UN grant observer status to one and not the other?

I have no idea about the content of the post at No. 5. What I CAN tell you is that it was not authored by me. I'm pretty sure that it was one of the several trolls who like to post under my name. I am never discourteous. Don't laugh too loudly or too long, however. Hussein Obamna squeaked into the presidency for a second term and, given the fact that the composition of the Congress has not changed, there is little or nothing to worry about. If he alienates Israel too much, things will not go well for you. Don't get too comfortable. You're a long way from an independent state. Unless it's Jordan. You still have Israel to contend with, and we are very disinclined to reward you for seven decades of violence and terror.

Arabs began to arrive here in the 1880's when they could find work in the Jewish yishuv . They came from countries as far as Yemen and Sudan . They came when Jews began to devellop the country and needed workforce . Those who came under the british mandate were mostly illegals who came from Syria . The Brits closed their eyes at this . Arabs were here since centuries [ not in vast quantities , came and left ], but had never an independent country with Jerusalem as Capital There were always Jews here [ when they were not murdered by the crusaders in Jerusalem ] They populated Yeroushalaim , Tsfat , Tveria or Hevron . [ Joan Peters , from time immemorial , and Martin Gilbert ] Historically this country belongs to the Jewish people . Our history is "live" in our capital where many places are witness of it . The Golan belonged also to the mandate territory the british received , and illegally gave to Syria .

Israel returned over 2000 palestinian terrorists for 1 Israeli soldier, its time that the Palestinians begin to grow up and start respecting other religions and people..

I think you're in for a major surprise. Most of the world dont care now for your creation myths. We are fed up and tired of being controlled by your army and settlers, at gun point, with our resourcesd diminishing by the day... Palestine will be declared an occupied state very soon hold on to your pampers.

I most assuredly did not compose the post at No. 5. I didn't even see it. YNet is falling down on the job. For shame.

I'm sorry, dear, but if there is a country called "Palestine," it has most assuredly escaped my notice. You're living on borrowed time in stolen land. And don't you ever forget it.

Oh, it's better than that. The ersatz "Palestinians" have been kicked out of Jordan, Lebanon, Tunisia, Oman, Muscat, Abu Dhabi and Kuwait. It would appear that even their fellow Arabs cannot stand them. No great surprise there.

Yes , as always again wrong . When you don't tell hatefull lies , you go wrong . You , a "successfull lawyer" as you wrote ? don't even knows that a "paroled" is not a "freed" prisoner . Poor vieille connasse .

There are thousands of cases that could be brought against the Isrealis, Only 37 jews have been killed by the little home-made rockets, yet tens of thousands of Palestinians have been killed by disproportionate IDF American sponsored brutality. You lose.

You go on and on and on..........snore. The rest of the world hates you, and you have had 4,000 years to fix your problem.

In the end of the Day we all human with same needs we all want safety for our children no one should be hurt Or killed fighting over this land Israelis need to speak up and need to engage their government to achieve peaceful approach to this conflict As for Palestinians do more work to improve ties with the Jewish people on global scale to assure them of your peaceful intentions .

The world are supporting you for their own business and oil. In the New testament it is clearly written the same thing like the OLD TESTAMENT. We are tired of you in our land. You kicked the Jews out of your land, and now it will be our turn to kick you out of our land. If you think this is myths, then also your quran is myths, because your quran is on our side.. No such thing or country called Palestine. Palestine was invented by the Roman Empire to punish the Jews.

Not real Sarah. Surely stolen land from the Jews given in gold plate by the British Mandate which is called Jordan. Will be Liberated soon

There is nobody as hatefull as you are . Not only hatefull but even ignorant about the difference between a "paroled" and Freed person . And you call yourself a "successfull lawyer" for more than 50 years ?

Yes, they were "kicked" out of Jordan [ 20,000 killed too ] in 1970 , but today they must be not far of a majority there . "kicked" out of Kuwait . yes after the first gulf war because of their support for hussein . Now they have certainly returned . And so on for all the countries you mention . . "not mine" is a great excuse , but also often a BIG lie .

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4279670,00.html oh, well maybre the post is mine!