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New America defeats old America
Prof. Eytan Gilboa
Published: 08.11.12, 02:38
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31. New America vs Old America
Observer ,   Brazil   (11.09.12)
Unfortunately America was catched on its own trap: everybody has freedom, everybody has money, nobody has commitment. In few years, the former world power will be just one more stinky mass like Brazil.
32. IT IS *HIGH TIME* ISRAEL REALIZES WHAT THIS ARTICLE SAYS...
Nowhere Man ,   Metropolis, Zion   (11.09.12)
No more Republican Netanyahu, no more pro-Putin Lieberman.
33. White Supremacy
M. Martin ,   NYC/Tel-AViv   (11.09.12)
One gets the impression reading the talkbacks here that Israel's welfare rests on white guys staying in power in the United States. The racism on display here in mind boggling. I think the article is a very lucid analysis of what the changing American demographics and politics affects Israel. This does not have to be negative but does require Israel to market itself to Americans differently than it has in the past. The kind of comments here saying the US has become a 3rd World country and such do NOT help. They are insulting and will do Israel WAY more harm than good if the vast majority of non-whites who do exercise their right to vote have this idea that Jews in general (and by extension teh State of Israel) is racist - a perception many have already to be quite honest. The Jewish overidentification with white people needs to come to an end or it will bite them in the ass. Badly. Possibly 1492 badly.
34. Close Vote
Zivron   (11.09.12)
The vote was close and the republicans lost because atrocious socioeconomic policies .Romneys 47% comment mocking the working poor and elderly and sick was Darwinian not Christian .
35. 3 million votes...
Robert ,   New Jersey, USA   (11.09.12)
We're the margin of victory. Never mind that half of those were fraudulent votes, had half of America's 6 million Jews voted for Romney, Israel would have a friend and ally in the White House in two months. So, dear friends, you can easily argue American Jews handed Obama the victory and the US and Israel a death warrant. Thank you for your stupid, narrow-minded, emotional choice, obama voting Jews. Once again, the chickens your self-loathing has hatched will soon come home to roost!
36. 70% American Jews voted for Obama...and didn't
Edithann ,   USA   (11.10.12)
give a thought to Israel.... So much for Jewish 'group think'! American Jews are now becoming loyal American Jews..Whoathunkit? Certainly not I...but it's good to see... TATA
37. The deseases of multiculturalism...
Jake Stone ,   USA   (11.10.12)
...and political correctness...destroyed my country as it will Israel, only if it allows it--don't!!! That's how the Muslim s' work: they quietly assimilate into the society than uses its rules of tolerance and PC to destroy it. As God told the Jews of Joshua's day: go into the land and conquer it; destroy all vestiges of the host country's culture, so it wouldn't infect the Israeli culture and its covenant with God. America allowed multiculturalism to infect it; thus, all the hodge-podge of false religions destroyed the very Judeo/Christian heritage that America was founded on. Godless, liberal America forgot the true God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob; so, it will pay for it, like the many times Israel turned against God. We conservative Christians' who support Israel, are the only hope left for Israel and America; but, soon we will be gone, and Israel will truly be alone. May God have mercy on Israel; only a small remnant will be saved out of the coming "time of Jacob's trouble." God bless, Israel; praying for the peace of Jerusalem!!! Christian Zionist
38. # 3 European Social democrats
Stan ,   Israel   (11.10.12)
Greece is not a good example (See how many right wing governments have they had in the past 30 years) Maybe Sweden would be a better example.
39. Its is not new America that won over old America.
David   (11.10.12)
It is the republican party that has changed and let radical elements take control over the party add its agenda. The republican party of 2012 is a coalition of messianic Evangelical, teas party extremists and pure capitalists. Yes this combination excited the radical base such as our readers here like Sarah B or noodels but lost touch with main stream America.
40. #33 Good post
esnuffnstl ,   USA   (11.10.12)
I doubt talkbackers realize how badly they come across and how they often reinforce negative stereotypes people have of Israelis. They certainly do Israel no favors.
41. #39 --Exactly right!
M. Davison ,   Ra'anana, Israel   (11.10.12)
The Republican party has changed from a right of center, fairly liberal conservative party to a far-right party of extremists who deny evbolution, want to repeal the abortion laws, continue the PATRIOT Act indefinitely (voiding the Constitution) and turn the US into a WASP / Corporate country with the rich at the helm, no labor unions and religious persona helping to enslave all but the upper class industrialists. What they want is to turn back the clock 140 years, to the times of the robber barons, minimal government, no social security, no pensions, disability or protection for anyone. Raise your hand if that's what you're in favor of... However bad Obama might be, a Republican victory would have been even worse by far.
42. Shlomo # 25 Read what he said.....
Eaglebeak ,   Left Coast, USA   (11.10.12)
Illegals.....not citizens! There is a big difference. Our constitution does not grant voting rights to ANY illegals. Eli is absolutely correct.
43. # 33 Baloney..color has nothing to do
Eaglebeak ,   Left Coast, USA   (11.10.12)
with it. It wasn't racism when liberals attacked Clarence Thomas. It wasn't sexisim when liberals attacked Sarah Palin. It's only racism when somebody gores the liberals ox. There are black people capable of running this country but Obama isn't one of them. Quit playing the race card everytime somebody white doesn't agree with someone of a different color. Diversity means everybody...that includes whites too.
44. David # 39
Eaglebeak ,   Left Coast, USA   (11.10.12)
Mainstream America is on the road to hell. It's being led by liberal Democrats. They are a good example of "extremists" as you put it.
45. #41
Eaglebeak ,   Left Coast, USA   (11.10.12)
So they deny something that hasn't been proven and is just a theory and they are against murdering babies. How dare they! The citizens of America had more freedom 140 years ago and the nation was growing and thriving. Now our growth comes from illegals that are dragging us down and we are collapsing under their weight and the weight of bigger and bigger government. We can thank you Democrats for that. They are leading us from being the leading world power to being just another has been world power.
46. Stats
Ed McGuire ,   Chicago USA   (11.10.12)
85% of American Muslims voted for Pres.Obama, 85% of American Jews voted for Pres. Obama, 85% of American Jews who made Aliyah voted for Gov. Romney.....hmmm remember Adon-i places everyone in Authority for his purpose....gotta go now...pray!!! ))
47. 45 - You are wrong.
David   (11.10.12)
The common blaming of the US economical problem by the right is baseless and just empty propaganda The US is dealing with problems of its own making namely the rest of the world is becoming capitalist and beating America in its own game. Why? - simple, globalization has opened up large markets worldwide and that is why NASDAQ is at all times high and also why the owners and executives of those US multinationals are the 1 percent while at same time the labor market in the US just can not compete with the lowers wages of the far east. There are some other factors such as technology that is turning some jobs obsolete. But globalization is one of the flags of the GOP and it is serving its supports wall street, and the conglomerates. It has nothing to do with the democrats or liberals. .
48. Its not about the minorities: America has changed...
My Planet Israel ,   Jerusalem   (11.11.12)
America has changed for the worse. It is rile with division and a frayed society that is overly indulgent (FACT: OBESITY IS OUR WORST HEALTH ISSUE) and is embracing a nanny state while will result in its demise. American's, like many past 'empires' have fallen victim to the 'me' mentality which continuously needs major catastrophies in order to pull together somewhat, even if for a moment. But once that moment is gone, so its the unity. And now, as we've seen with hurricane Sandy, you have a culture which exploits such horrors; lying in wait for such to happen so they can pounce on the down trodden to their own benefit. The number of home invasions across the storm affected region is staggering and disgusting but the idealists don't want to talk about it. Look at the Occupy movement with the high number of rapes occurring during their tent city sit-ins. There is a level of self-servitude that has been reached in the US that is disgusting and deplorable. So much so, there are more expats today than at any other time in American history. Only nowadays, expats don't even look back. The US is an empty shell of a thing that has chosen to be devoid of meaning, purpose or value other than to serve the self and cry when things don't go their way. Its a deplorable nation with no direction whatsoever. Even the government abandoned its purpose in order to serve itself. I am completely nauseated by the typical American today. The arrogance, defensiveness, ignorance and lack of purpose fills the air with the stench of the walking dead. And this is putting it mildly and from a very generous perspective. Can't stand what America has become. Its a cesspool.
49. David # 47
Eaglebeak ,   Left Coast, USA   (11.11.12)
Our economic problems started with the crreation of the Federal Reserve Bank and our currency no longer being based on gold or silver. There is nothing solid now to keep us from inflation. That is why we can not compete anymore and our jobs go overseas. That is neither a Republican or a Democrat problem.
50. America is a bankrupt shadow of the country it once was
Israeli Economist ,   Tel Aviv   (11.11.12)
They are so much in debt that it is IMPOSSIBLE for them to pay it back without DEFAULTING or HYPERINFLATION. It is only a question of time before the dollar collapses at which point the proportion of Americans on food stamps will go from 15% to 60%. I wonder which internal ethnic group will be blamed for the economic meltdown??
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