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Jewish organizations urged to accept gays
David Shear
Published: 18.11.12, 04:16
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1. This about sums up the golus Jewish Community
Al   (11.18.12)
Instead of rallying behind Israel at this critical stage, it whines about crap. Israel is facing a possible onslaught from all sides, Syria, Egypt, Lebanon Gaza and yes Iraq and Iran and what does the golus Jew worry about? The golus Jew is a fool, nothing more nothing less.
2. can't be
Larry ,   Los Angeles   (11.18.12)
It is obvious that those who find the current liberal world viewpoint acceptable will also accept the LGBT's. It is also forseen that those who accept the Torah's viewpoint will never accept them. So, for whom is this announcement mean? Neither for the secular/reform etc, since they already accept them. Neither is it mean for the Orthodox since they can never accept them, since the Torah forbids it. Rather this is meant for the news media to made those religious people look badly in the eyes of those few in the middle.
3. G-d or LGBT, who is right?
Joshua ,   Texas, USA   (11.18.12)
Just to make sure I understand this article correctly the LGBT organizations are trying to tell the Jewish communities that the Tanach and G-d is wrong? Looks to me that they have their own religion. The two cannot go together.
4. 1 Al,In a few words all s said.
ORA ,   JERUSALEM   (11.18.12)
5. Lgbt,Sodoma and Gomorra
Anna M Sedda ,   Rome   (11.18.12)
It is funny how journalist can find all kind of word to make people to' exept perverted man and women.. Sodoma and Gomorra Sin is has old as Abram time.... Read the end of it...
6. G-d and LBBT really? That's like forcing G-d to accept the
devil as his friend. ,   Ain't gonna happen!!   (11.18.12)
7. The continued degeneration of the Jewish community
Baruch ,   Boston, USA   (11.18.12)
How ridiculous to insist that two "fathers" or two "mothers" represent real families in any logical sense. This just shows how far away from Jewish values so many in the Jewish community have gone. America today sees homosexuality, gambling casinos, legalization of recreational drugs, mercy killing, killing of offspring, and other such things as worth fighting on behalf of. At the same time, traditional values, as supported by real religions and organizations like the Boy Scouts, are villified. Such a pitiful commentary on humanity all of this is.
8. @1 Secular illiterates
(11.18.12)
are too dumb to realize that their sin of Sodom and Gomorra is literally "DANGEROUS" for their surrounding neighborhoods causing these dangerous rockets into Israel. Don't believe me? Start learning.
9. Please define LGBT
Moshe ,   Usa   (11.18.12)
10. #9 It meand Lesbian, Gay, Bi-Sexual, and Transgenders.
(11.18.12)
11. If they are Jewish would you have them die of hunger and
Bunnie Meyer ,   Los Angeles, CA USA   (11.19.12)
sleep on skid row or treat them as anyone else who needs food, shelter and a job? Would you give food to a straight Baptist that was hungry and not a gay Jew?
12. Makes as much sense as accepting jews for jesus
Mordechai ,   Boca Raton Fl   (11.18.12)
Homosexuality like Jews for jesus is paganism. There is nothing jewish about this and of course it should be rejected as being the essence of evil Jewish groups should strong support groups like jonah jonahweb.org that can help people get out of this lifestyle
13. Skewed survey, Phoney numbers.
(11.18.12)
I'll do a survey among the religious and righteous and it sure will have different results.
14. Gays & the Torah
Norman Gellman ,   Rehovot   (11.18.12)
Homosexuality is specifically band in the Torah while lesbianism is tolerated. This probably because the cultures and other religions of that time were rife with homosexuality. Today we know that homosexuality is not a matter of choice but of "hard wiring" in he brain. So perhaps we should find a way around this ban just as a way was found around the commandment to stone a rebellious son.
15. #11 Of course we would help them. They are humans for G-d
David-ben-David ,   Israel   (11.19.12)
sakes. But don't force me to accept the life style. Do you not have shelters for alcholics, drug addicts, and prostitutes? You help them, but no one forces you to accept their lifestyle. You leave the shelter where you fed them and clothed them, but you return to your own house and live your own life. Not theirs.
16. #14 Not a matter of choice? The choice is always made when
David-ben-David ,   Isreal   (11.19.12)
pressure is put on an emotional feeling of the flesh. Taking your first drink. Smoking your first cigarette. Blurtine out your first cuss word. Injecting a needle full of drugs into your arm. All of those are choices that you yeilded your flesh to. The act of, or the yeilding to a homosexual lifestyle is the same thing. If it were not a choice, you would be living that life immediately coming out of the womb. The only hard wiring is refusing to listen to Torah and an eagerness to listen to the lusts of the flesh. This is almot to elementary to have to explain.
17. I'm mighty curious as to what ynet found too much in #14&#15
(11.19.12)
18. #14
avi ,   nyc   (11.19.12)
we most certainly do not know that the brain is hard wired. there is no scientific evidence for your view, in fact the opposite is the case despite how much you repeat lies.
19. to Nos 16, 17, 18
Norman Gellman ,   Rehovot   (11.20.12)
Here is what the American Physiological Assassination says on the subject: "There is no consensus among scientists about the exact reasons that an individual develops a heterosexual, bisexual, gay, or lesbian orientation. Although much research has examined the possible genetic, hormonal, developmental, social, and cultural influences on sexual orientation, no findings have emerged that permit scientists to conclude that sexual orientation is determined by any particular factor or factors. Many think that nature and nurture both play complex roles; most people experience little or no sense of choice about their sexual orientation."
20. #19 Thanks, but no thanks. The Word of G-d is THEE word that
all other words are ,   judged by. D-b-D   (11.20.12)
21. #14 way around ban exists
Yehoshua Friedman ,   K. Hashachar Israel   (11.20.12)
The Talmud already says that capital punishment in general was first seldom, later never carried out. Hate the sin and love the sinner is a consistent position of Judaism as it is of Christianity.
22. Leviticus 18, 20 & Romans 1!!!
Jake Stone ,   USA   (11.20.12)
God'll judge this sick, perversive lifestyle--period! Does Sodom and Gomorrah ring a bell? Only godless heathens forget, because they love their chosen sin more than God's truth. So don't bother calling me a bigot; take-it-up with God! I don't think it's wise to challenge God; needless to say...you won't win! I pray these sick people repent and turn to the Lord for forgiveness...I really do!!! Remember: God loves the sinner...but, hates the sin; thus, being a God of righteousness and justice, He must judge sin, regardless of what it is.
23. All of this hate makes me embarrassed.
Brendan ,   Saint Louis, MO   (11.22.12)
All of this bigoted, ignorant hate makes me embarrassed to be a Jew. I've never said that before in my life, but seeing my people spew such vile, uneducated filth makes my skin crawl. People citing the scripture and talking about "unnatural" or "perverse" lifestyles. This collection of ignorant fools deserves each other. If any LGBT Jews are reading this, just know that at least one of us accepts and loves you for who you are, regardless of who you love. As for the rest of you... I hope that none of you have children. My heart aches that such garbage has to spread to another generation.
24. #23, Maybe it isn't "hate". Maybe we're right....
Baruch ,   Boston, USA   (11.22.12)
Is it hateful to say someone who steals or kills is doing something wrong? Is it hateful to say that someone who is gluttonous and weighs 400 lb is doing something wrong? Is it hateful to say that someone who pumps himself full of heroin or alcohol is doing something wrong? No. These are facts, truths. And when men have sex with men, women have sex with women, both have sex with both, they are doing something wrong. That's it! Call us "haters", "bigots", "ignorant", etc. It's just a poor defense to cover up the truth. You're doing something unnatural and stupid.
25. "Wrong"?
Brendan ,   St. Louis USA   (11.22.12)
I find it intriguing that you hold homosexuality in the same level as killing and stealing as far as "wrong ness" goes. Your entire post was the same justification used by people against interracial marriage and even further back to the justification of slavery. History has taught us that using the Torah to solely define our morality makes us ugly, nasty people. Using g-d to justify your bigotry is evil.
26. #25, you twisted what I said to fit your prejudice.
Baruch ,   Boston, USA   (11.23.12)
I never brought in anything about religion, or the Torah. I compared the stupidity of GLBT relationships to other anti-social behavior. That's it. Your bigotry assumes my reasons are religious. And justifying slavery is much different from opposing GLBT behavior. You're a non-thinker and can only spew your programmed responses, fed to you by people with a bizarre outlook on life. It's not hate. It's logic, that you can't stand, so you spew hatred.
27. #16 You are spot one 100%. They want us to think they have
no choice, but they ,   already chose it.   (11.24.12)
28. i am a bisexual jew
Laim ,   Israel   (12.10.12)
i am bisexual, i live in israel, i am jewish. the things i have read here make me depressed and weep for humanity. i have never hurt another person with my sexuality, i treat people equally and kindly, and if there is a god i think he would be happy to know that i am happy in accepting who i really am i have never hurt any of you, why would you say such horrible things about me and people like me? you don't even know us, you don't know the struggles we've been through learning to accept who we are when everyone is telling us we're disgusting. may your god judge those of you who judge us, you are not righteous, you are cruel and heartless.
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