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Facebook post calls attention to Auschwitz survivor's living conditions
Ilana Curiel
Published: 27.11.12, 16:35
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31. Sarah @ 6 ,...
split ,   US   (11.27.12)
You can spin it anyway you wish but that's the real face of zionism and a statement about your society,... Assuming that you're lawyer by your own words instead of wasting your time on hasbara on this forum try to find out what ever happen to those billions extorted from Germans to take care of your victims - Did they or their spouses work, if yes where are their pensions or disability founds? Up to 2007 WJC Claims Conference was bragging on their web site: "As a result of negotiations with the World Jewish Congress the German government has paid more than $50 billion in indemnification for suffering and losses resulting from Nazi persecution. Our negotiations have also resulted in the creation of special funds for Holocaust survivors and Holocaust education from the Austrian Government, German and Austrian industry and many other European nations" ,... Take a note that they don't mention those Billions received from Swiss banks ,...
32. #29 sarah b.
Helene ,   Merkaz   (11.27.12)
You don't know what is happening in ANY holocaust survivor's family. SHUT UP. Instead of trying to educate everyone on these talkbacks, why don't you just answer mine and why dont' you apologize to me for calling names and sending me to hell when I told you that I was also a survivor. You good for nothing..... After a second thought, I think that I am going to look you up, know who you are and file a complaint against you here in Israel wherever you live here or not
33. #7
Helene ,   Merkaz   (11.27.12)
YES, this is how the israeli goverment treats holocaust survivors. The government has received huge amounts of money,but go and ask them where the money is......... They are just waiting for the last one of us to drop dead and then they will be happy to distribute and share the money among themselves.. And please believe me. I AM ONE AMONG MANY HOLOCAUST SURVIVORS getting nothing from Mr. Bibi... I am obviously not young and sick
34. #10 Arlene
Helene ,   Merkaz   (11.27.12)
Some holocaust survivors are mentally very very sick and due to this state, they DO NOT ALLOW anybody to come near them out of fear. Some are just terrorized thinking that they are still in death camps.. I know it first hand. So please don't blame her family members - nobody is in their shoes and nobody knows what is actually happening
35. To: No. 32
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (11.27.12)
Really? My parents were concentration camp survivors. I am a member of an organization called "Generation After." I know more that you know about the Holocaust. I don't for a single, solitary moment believe that you're a Holocaust survivor, as you claim. You file whatever complaint you like. I'll keep you in motion practice and endless adjournments until you're dead broke and living on the streets. Don't test my resolve.
36. Where is the money
Sarah B ,   Tel Aviv/London   (11.27.12)
Germany and Austria paid Israel to look after the Holocaust survivors?
37. Children of survivors.
A Jerusalemite ,   Jerusalem, Israel   (11.27.12)
First of all, Kol Hakavod to the student that found her and organized the attempt to help the woman and to clean up her flat. As has been noted above dealing with a parent that is a Holocaust survivor is an extremely difficult task. As the child of such a one I know... I cannot blame the daughter that lives locally nor the other children that live in the center of the country. The situation is too close to me personally. The city of Be'er Sheva and the welfare department must take a hand here. Only an outside person can be objective enough to deal with this situation.
38. # 36
Birdi ,   Israel   (11.27.12)
Each & every Holocaust survivour got paid out. The retribution monies went straight into their accounts. If you were an Israeli, like you say you are, you would know this. You are a fake.
39. #34
Rachel   (11.27.12)
True Holocaust survivors are all elderly now,and I have read at least many suffer from dementia,and they go back in the past because of the dementia, and think their still in the concentration camps,which lead to panic attacks and other emotional problems. The woman's family clearly were not taking care of her though,and she needs to watched around the clock. No one should have to live in the appalling conditions this poor woman has.
40. To Sarah B (and others)
jew ,   europe   (11.27.12)
i work for claims conf. and yes there are some kind of taking care of them: usualy some money (not too much) paid care assistence(limited) and so. but there are still hundreds and hundreds they didnt appeal for this. There are comunities the look after them but not all and everywhere. but it will never give them back what they lost and what the consecnquences are (on them or on their children even till 3th generation! )
41. Is there no proper place for her?
bad Assed Jew ,   United States   (11.27.12)
To leave her like that is a sin to the Nation of Israel. COME ON PEOPLE!! End this NOW! Somewhat akin to the American Vets who are mentally ill, living on the streets and at their wits ends.
42. EVERYONE WHO KNOWS IS TO BLAME.
bad Assed Jew ,   United States   (11.27.12)
She has an excuse, what's OURS?
43. # 12 It happened to an Arab girl I know of
bad Assed Jew ,   United States   (11.27.12)
My husband has a cousin in Texas with two facilities for the mentally challenged. ( one a school, the other, a living facility, neither of which takes Government funding ) An Arab family found her and asked that they be able to leave their mentally challenged daughter in her permanent care for $50,000.00. Of course, she said no however, don't act as though this DOESN'T happen to ARAB women, it does, every day, all day.And, much worse than this, death- female circumcision, all the 'Joys' ARAB women know. ( worse fate than that of a dog who is free to roam without such planned agony )
44. # 16 Sarah meant to help not harm.
bad Assed Jew ,   United States   (11.27.12)
Legally, if a person is 'a danger to themselves or other's' or cannot care for themselves, they are then considered for 'assisted living'. To leave this woman living in her own human waste begs the question, WHY? I'm sure you wouldn't want this as your fate or that of any family member. Whatever argument you two may have had in the past, this poor soul needs, needed help. Angry words do nothing for her.... Or to equal the score for one dead hitler.
45. #35
Helene ,   Merkaz   (11.27.12)
Really ?? YOU DO !!!!! You do know more than I do ?? OK - Well ms. sarah b. Alea Jacta est
46. # 16 to Helene
jew ,   europe   (11.28.12)
you should calm down, being holoucast survivor doesn give you the right to treat (talk or write) in this way you wrote to Sarah B this is very agressive serious blackmailing what your are doing
47. Where Is All That holocaust Money The Germans Gave?
World Citizen ,   the world   (11.28.12)
I guess it all disappeared in the bank accounts of the lawyers a fund administrators.
48. please hold your fire
Ruth ,   Beer Sheva   (11.28.12)
A few years ago I stumbled about a similiar case. A coworker and I were volunteering delivering food for the holidays and we got into an apartment of an old man which was nearly empty of furniture and full of debris. I already organized a cleanign party and a dirve for getting him some furniture. Then I contacted the social service and talked to the lady in charge: This man was also a holocaust survivor. He was not poor at all but he needed to live in appaling conditions. Several people had already done what I was about to do and it took him next to no time to reduce the apartment to the previous state. This man also could have been place in an institution for mentally ill people. However, the social worker asked me, after what he went through, would it be really kindness to have him once more stripped of his freedom?
49. To: Ruth at No. 48
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (11.28.12)
Survivor's guilt. He needed to atone for having survived when so many did not. He needs to recreate the nightmare of his existence in the concentration camps to enable him to deal with having survived. It's not uncommon, and as people slip into typical problems of old-age, such as loneliness and dementia, the more time they have to live with their memories -- and the terrible feelings of guilt. Thank you so much for your post.
50. Payment doesn't assure mental stability
bad Assed Jew ,   United States   (11.28.12)
We have thousands of homeless Vets also living in dire conditions. Unless we walk in their shoes, we should be less anxious to judge. "There for the grace of G-d go I."
51. I mean really,,,,,
Yohan ,   Brussels Germany   (11.28.12)
Who cares?
52. 51 Yohan Human beings care...
ORA ,   JERUSALEM   (11.28.12)
What are you?
54. Love
Nelson ,   Roanoke ,USA   (11.28.12)
This is one of the exact reasons,besides money,that more people have not left the dispora..When we see Settlers being thrown from their homes,should we subject ourselves to this..Who wants to be humiliated by their own people..
55. Dearest Helene...
rob ,   Orangevale, U.S.A.   (11.28.12)
Why so angry? Isn't it enough that you suffered the way you have? Why so angry with the other poster. I shan't use her name in order that you not become angrier. What does it matter who is survivor and who are children of those? The anger and sarcasm, the threats and animosity are getting you nowhere and is being read across the globe. The other poster has the right to express her feelings as do you. Why not constructive dialog or educative comments instead of the vitriol and malice. Thank you for having survived and telling us what you experienced. It is far more valuable to myself and my children than whats been going on here so far. Shalom Israel, Shalom Helene, rob
56. To: No. 53
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (11.28.12)
We already know you are a complete idiot. You don't have to keep on proving it to us. What camps were you in, by the way? What date were you liberated? To which displaced persons camp were you sent?
57. #56
Helene ,   Merkaz   (11.28.12)
Really, you want to know about my whereabouts. OK - the 16th of July 1942 rings a bell. So this is where is starts. It goes on at the French police station. My mother smuggles me out. I am sent to Argenteuil to be hidden by peasants ... who are denounced - sent away to another French department where I am hidden again - I am sorry I do not want to give more information on a forum where everybody can see my story. But, you Ms. B. before insulting and calling liar people you have never met in your life ..... I am also a complete idiot,!?! let be it, but you are a disgusting person with no soul and no feelings in your heart. This is the way people behave and feel when they live a very protected and good life. Good for you and good for you again who never knew of tragedy.
58. #55 Rob
Helene ,   Merkaz   (11.28.12)
Dear Rob, thank you very much for your kind message. There is a subject that NOONE (who hasn't experienced it) is allowed to discuss with me and that is the holocaust. So when I meet on my way a person with no feelings whatsoever calling me names and insulting - I will go to the very end and will have the last word. Ms. b. has already called me liar, stupid, complete idiot - she is going to "see that I am dead broken and live on the street" , etc... etc... What do you believe ?? If I have been through during my youngest year the hell of many Jewish children, I am unable to face sarah b. USA/Israel. Instead of behaving the way she did ,she would have found a way to give me the opportunity to send her my story, I have written a book that can be found in Yad Vashem. I will NOT, repeat NOT let her treat me the way she does, even if this takes me to live on the sidewalk as per her threat.. Shalom Rob and thank you again
60. Helene. please help me...
rob ,   Orangevale, U.S.A.   (11.29.12)
I am curious as to when you wrote and published your book in the Yad Vashem, and it's title. There are many authors with the first name of Helene. I do not ask your last name as it is inappropriate over the web. I want to study this book and read them to my children's children. Will you help? Shalom Israel, Shalom Helene. rob
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