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West's pet conflict
Guy Bechor
Published: 08.12.12, 14:01
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1. Guy Bechor speaks truth
E. G. Marsch ,   Nahariya   (12.08.12)
An Israeli who is really living in Israel, unlike the Israeli left which relates to our situation in terms of the cliches of New York, Boston, San Francisco, Paris, and Brussels and hopes to turn Israel into those places through the providential agency of Saint Abbas.
2. Have enough guts to tell Europe to butt out!
Chaim ,   Israel   (12.08.12)
German taxpayers are all that is saving Europe from complete bankruptcy and they can't do it forever. Europe is also submitting, more each year, to takeover by backwards Islamists. In short, Europe has problems of it's own. Europe has no right to interfere with Israel as Israel doesn't interfere with Europe. Israel needs to have the guts to tell Europe to butt out permanently. This is our land now and forever. We aren't ghetto Jews.
3. It is correct !
Roman ,   Cracow, Poland   (12.08.12)
It looks that some European countries like France, England or Germany still think that are colonial powers; not mentioning even about the USA ! Talking about European Civilization I wish to point out that the well-known British historian Michael Wood in his 6 part television documentary “ Legacy: A Search of the Origins of Civilization” summarized the history of Europe writing the following words as the title: “ Europe. The Barbarian West”. No further comment is necessary!
4. Europe is doomed
Chukwuemeka ,   Lagos,Nigeria   (12.08.12)
Its clear from everything going on around us that europe is doomed. It has lost it's root and will never find its way home. Europe has been undertaken by islamists who influence policies towards the region and against israel. Israel will keep growing strong cos of the Hand of God on the people there. "I will never forsake the house of Jacob" so says the Lord. God bless Israel.
5. West's Pet Conflict
Mark ,   Pasadena, USA   (12.08.12)
Obama gave a speech at the Cairo University in 2009, with the Muslim Brothers invited to attend, much to the chagrin of Mubarak. Before the civil war in Syria, Hillary Clinton praised Al-Assad as a reformer. Nicholas Kristof of the NYT lavished praise on the Arab Spring from the streets of Cairo and look what this whirlwind has reaped. Leave Israel alone and go take care of this mess you have created, U.S. and Europe!
6. israel is the problem! Before 1948 there was peace in
Mickey   (12.08.12)
Palestine. Trouble started when the zionist began stealing land from the Palestinians. Evryone lived in harmony
7. The only thing that united the Arabs is hatred of the Jews
Mira ,   New York   (12.08.12)
Muslim sects throughout the middle east hate and kill each other, and struggle for power. This is now, as it always was. The ONLY thing that unites them all is hatred of the Jews.
8. There is a reason for it
Gee ,   Zikron Yaakov   (12.08.12)
Because we are the only people willing to compromise to get something and that we won't kill them for insulting us. The Muslims on the other hand think that compromise and surrender are the same thing and will kill anybody that sticks their nose into what they consider their internal affairs. We need to stand fast and await the splintering of our neighbors. It will happen to all of them and nobody can stop it.
9. Very superficial analysis
Debbie ,   Usa   (12.08.12)
Peace and calm will happen if the Palestinian people have their own sovereign state and determine their future like any other free people To infer that UN recognition of an nonmember state is the end is too naive .
10. eurabia
yakov ,   miami,jerusalemt   (12.08.12)
the ghetto mentality of our leaders and our retarded rabbis are the root causes that enables the goyims anti-Semitism
11. Europe has been conquered by Islam
Obsessive ,   Turkey   (12.08.12)
Europe is the continent of Quality and Production. Who cares the financial crisis. They need only raw materials. I don't like Europe. I hate LOLLL. because "That smells sh..." said the cat about meat that it cannot reach. I'm not sure if Europe has been conquered by Islam or but Turkish highways have been conquered by European cars. People are ready to give up their lives for the model of SLS AMG. Mr. Bechor, Our Turkish Far-Leftist Jew, Roni Margulies is always blaming Israel for everything which I find funny, silly, nonsense and Schizophrenic (He is not Seymour Hersh) We can't ignore Russia. World is crying and the peaceful era of the cold war will come back so Russia and the US again but no more Euro currency, Berlin lovers, Cheaper Asian products, deregulated investment banking, forex and hedge players, No fly zones for the freedom fighters, El-Kaide, Neocons and oil wars. At least I hope so! I think Israel is still not ready after reading your article. Shabbat Shalom.
12. Its because the Israel Question is EU's chance to carry on
Alan ,   SA   (12.08.12)
the Europeans Obsession with Jews and things Jewish..This is and always has been the cornerstone of White Europeans' faithS since year Zero... Unfortunately for EU they are being overtaken by massive Islamic Infiltration.It will only take a fraction of the future century for the Islamists to gain full control of the Western EU and a little longer for the rest of EU to fall to them. Look at the streets of Western EU and see the Beards and Baby Buggies...The taxi drvers and the Shwarma shops .The health facilities are being choked as are schools,public transport ,housing.Sewer infrastructure.You name it I doubt if this will be printed but I think its appropriate to the subject of the article.But its what I think.
13. No, they want something else.
Istvan ,   BUDAPEST HUNGARY   (12.08.12)
To avoid attention from their own, middle east crisis. Visit Paris or London and you will realize what I am speaking about. You can walk hours in the street and will meet 1 pedestrian out of 10, who maybe a genuine british or frenchman. But no guarantee to be portugese or greek.
14. CALIPHATE - WEST!
tiki ,   belgium   (12.08.12)
Another reality, the West doesn't want to deal with.
15. Guy,as always: a breath of fresh air!
HaifaGuy   (12.08.12)
16. 100% accurate
hippocrates ,   world   (12.08.12)
17. After their "guest workers" take power
Stephen in New York   (12.08.12)
maybe some Europeans will find refuge in Israel.
18. Look at the numbers.
Jase ,   Australia   (12.09.12)
How many Muslims have died in the last week, month,year, decade, century at the hands of their Muslim brothers? It's a fraction of those killed by Jews. That's not to say that we shouldn't strive to find a fair solution with the Palestinians. It just means that there is a lack of perspective and proportionality in Europe. Why? They don't like us. And never have!
19. Debbie
Mark ,   Pasadena, USA   (12.08.12)
Did you just wake up Debbie? The Palestinians declared their future decades ago, the future they decided-of their own free will and volition- is to never recognize Israel and work for Israel's annihilation. That does not fit with your analysis.
20. especially in 1929..
jew ,   jerusalem   (12.09.12)
When arabs killed jews in hevron, and the remaining jews where evicted from hevron, gaza, nablus and the old city of jerusalem. Making them to jew free areas, same as saudi-arabia since mohamed's time.
21. excellent article, but
(12.08.12)
pretty bad that the Israeli foreign policy and propaganda does not promote the publishing of such articles in various European newspapers.
22. But, But, But...
Prestor John ,   The East   (12.09.12)
Iraq is a democracy now thanks to Bush Jr. and the NeoCons. So let's not have any of this finger pointing, it was 100% successful, end of!
23. "harmony", Mickey #6?
Robert Haymond ,   Israel/Gush Etzion   (12.09.12)
In 1920, the first major outbreak against the Jewish population in what would become the State of Israel began. In 1929, the Jews of Hebron experienced a pgrom in which sixty died, their bodies violated, rapes and pillaging took place as well as the confiscation of all Jewish property. Those Jews who did survive all fled to Jerusalem. Terror attacks continued ever since. Really, Mickey, you owe it to yourself to educate yourself on well-known facts before commenting as a public Talkbacker. The actual facts and records are easy to research.
24. An excellent op-ed & so true, the problem is the world choos
Wise Saba ,   Western Negev   (12.09.12)
25. #20 Amin al-Husseini and British colonial policy
N ,   N   (12.09.12)
Most of the conflicts of that period of time were induced by Amin al-Husseini, the (Grand) Mufti of Jerusalem, one of the worst instigators. In the elections he received the least number of votes (out of four candidates). And what did the British occupiers? They installed al-Husseini, a convicted felon (who had been given amnesty) and least wanted among four candidates, as Mufti of Jerusalem! And as al-Husseini had no shame at all, he even promoted himself to "Grand Mufti". And then he continued to incite against the Jews . The cause of the 1929 Hebron massacre was therefore British colonial policy, the utter disrespect of the Arab vote!
26. #9 please explain
israel israeli ,   tel aviv   (12.09.12)
You condemn Bechor for being superficial, but you agree with him. You write "Peace and calm will happen if the Palestinian people have their own sovereign state...". This is true with one caveat: that there is no more Jewish state and that there are no Jews living in the Middle East. If you agree to genocide of the Jews like Hamas and Fatah, that is fine, but you must understand that Bechor and most YNet readers don't agree.
27. Hey Goyim Jews( Jo Jos)
Jesusthepalestinian ,   Falisteen   (12.09.12)
There is NOTHING called Jewish people. It is an Invention
28. If US & Europe ignored Israel?
berlonski ,   berlin   (12.09.12)
Is it that what you prefer? Better for Israel turning to the South, East and North? Ooops, they are even more critical with Israeli policy? As usual the lunatic right has a big mouth, knows how to blame and to complain. But no solutions, alternatives, perspectives. By the way: European media is much more "obsessed" with Arab states like Egypt and Syria these days, after the mess with Gaza cooled down a bit.
29. For some the WAR AGAINST THE JEWS = via "Palestinian" ARABS.
Jerry ,   The Netherlands   (12.09.12)
30. Israel is a magnet for the West as musicals were a distracti
David Turner ,   Richmond, USA   (12.09.12)
on for people during the Depression; as sports is today a distraction for people confronting life challenges they feel powerless to overcome. Israel is the opiate of the nations.
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