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Abbas blasts Mashaal: We already recognized Israel
Elior Levy
Published: 13.12.12, 10:43
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1. Pals recognized Israel+demand right of return into it
Sam ,   Canada   (12.13.12)
We will know if the Palestinians accept a Jewish majority Israel after the Palestinian refugee issue is resolved. Recognition of Israel means nothing if they want to flood Israel with refugees. Also, Israel is a viable country with many Arabs living in the Galil and Negev so Palestinians and the international community should stop whining about Jews living in Jerusalem and the West Bank. The sooner the Palestinians make peace, the less they will have to whine about. However, peace has never been on their minds. They still seek the destruction of Israel by diplomacy or war. They can't fool everybody.
2. Abu Mazen, talk about ypurself plz.
Salma ,   State of Palestine   (12.13.12)
Palestinian people will never recolonize "Israel" , NEVER. SOONER OR LATER PALESTINE WILL BE FREE FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA.
3. Tactical Speach !.
Arn. ,   Sweden.   (12.13.12)
To little and to late and Hypocritical !. Arn.Sweden.
4. Israel being a burden to her allies
Rhonda ,   Chicago, USA   (12.13.12)
Israel is not a burden to me nor does she seem to be a burden to my Senators when I call them about her. Wishful thinking from Turkey...
5. Per the Levy Coimmission,Israel Has Rights
Noah Lev ,   LosAngelesUsA   (12.13.12)
The borders have to be readjusted, and the Pales know it, They simply wont accept any plan by Israel that intrudes on the controus of their little new country, its that simple. This artition was approved by Arafat..years ago, but any kind of agreement which thwarts the Pales goals is "irrelevant", ala UN242. Playing with fire? When 12000 rockets are fired into Israel's sough..that's playingwith fire. If Israel acted similalry..the world would be screaming. The real question is: does Israel have the legal right to join in the discussion of its borders whether 67 or otherwise? The Pales say no. Are the lands disputed or not? Hamas's statements are relevant. Israel should never conclude any change in it's status unless they go along, through deeds. There must might never be 2 or 3 states for 2 or 3 people's. The Allon Plan, with adjustments, s the best plan. Give theArabs autonomy intheir areas...under strict Israeli contol. As we say here, if they dont like it, they can lump it. Let them take us on. Millions of Jews/Christians are getting tired of this entire conflict..and will come to Israels aid as threatened per this article.
6. There is No Solution
Noah Lev ,   LAUSA   (12.13.12)
There are a few real sticking ponts in any resolution of this 100 year old conflict. We Jews can live with a Judenrein Palestine (east of the 67 borders), and of course, no right of return. (so-called). Hamas is beinghonest atleast..they sayi it proudly, no Jews in the British Mandate. As they arm themelvfes (again), and long for heavier weapons, they become bolder and more delusional. Only Israels withdraal under pressure, saved them, ( a flaw in Israel's overall policy). Arab think tanks will reflect on this latest flap...come up with double talk again. Abbaswas offered a transiioinal state in the W. Bk..and turned itdown cold. He will never accept abrogating the right f return or adjusted 67 borders. He will always demand Jerusalem. Is there a solution, probably not for 100 years.
7. Wrong abbas as Hamas and the gaza people would have to vote
jeff ,   nyc   (12.13.12)
So how could he talk about already recognizing israel when hamas and the palestians including the gaza people would have to vote on any agreement which would be defeated since they vote against any agreement since they don't want any israel.
8. Fatah aide said there would be two arab states
jeff ,   nyc   (12.13.12)
There vision is so many right of return people that there are two arab states and no israel this is what abbas's senior aide said.
9. What he is talking about is in English Now
AlbertoGA ,   St. George, USA   (12.13.12)
In Arabic the Words have a TOTAL different Meaning... Like This Peace only when the Jews will move to the Beach...Ayayay !mistake of my part, Haverim a move > TO THE MED. SEA <
10. @ Salma
Michael Schmidt ,   Switzerland   (12.13.12)
How are you going to explain to Israeli kids they have to leave their homes? Start to realize that Israel is to stay. I would recommend you and people with a similar mindset, to use your energy in working instead of hating Israel. Focus on personal and professional development and you and alikes and your (future) children will have a better life.
11. Earth to livni gazans voted for hamas stop with fake peace
jeff ,   usa   (12.13.12)
Stop promoting with the rockets from one end and fake peace with someone who has no power on the other end.
12. If so, why do you refuse to accept Israel's RIGHT to be, to
Jehudah Ben-Israel ,   Qatzrin, Israel   (12.13.12)
exist as the SOVEREIGN NATION-STATE OF THE JEWISH PEOPLE...?? Is it so, so, so difficult to utter in public such a statement...??!! P.S. Your refusal to utter it and to see such an understanding in a future Final Status Agreement with Israel is a major cause for us, Jews, within and without our nation-state, Israel, to trust ANYTHING you say, and the motive for those things that you do!!
13. Abbas is a liar
Shalom   (12.13.12)
Just 2 days ago the UN delivered a “One Arab State Solution” through art that shows all of Israel as Palestine, mirroring Abbas’ “peace process map.” Publicly, Abbas has stated he wants “negotiations” with Israel that would recognize the Palestinian Authority based on the United Nations Temporary Armistice Lines drawn up in 1949 and erased with the Six-Day War in 1967. He also insists on Israel’s accepting approximately 5 million foreign Arabs into the country, which would render an Israel a de facto Arab country.
14. Always good for a laugh!!!
Z.Z. Coltrane ,   USA   (12.13.12)
Abbas: the, ugly, class clown! I just can't take this ignorant, godless FOOL seriously! His little scrunched-up, pouty looking-face makes me laugh; and, what comes out of his mouth, the constant lies, even more so. He's so pathetic! It's amazing he was ever a terrorist, because I would've bet he would have accidentally blown his sorry-self up, because of his stupidity. Go figure; I guess dumb fools have some good-luck, also. But, I sense his good-luck is going to, soon, change for the worse: the Palestinian lie (a State) is going to be exposed for the trash that it is; and, the fake-Palestinians are going to be wiped-out, permanently by God's coming judgment(s). Mark-my-words: it's coming!!!
15. RIGHT OF RETURN: PALESTINE IS JEWISH, ARABS IN SAUDI ARABIA.
BUTSeriousy ,   Sydney   (12.13.12)
16. BUILD BABY BUILD !!! BEST WAY TO A LASTING PEACE
big bad Jew ,   United States   (12.13.12)
These two lunatics can never dictate to Israel where or when she may build. Between the 'allies' of Iran, of course, they would squeal like piggies in a slaughter house. This goes for anyone ignorant enough to challenge Israel's legal right to build any place she cares to build. Israel is not a signatory to the ICC and no one, even obama can stop building ALL of Israel. KEEP BUILDING BABY.
17. Ha Ha Ha Funny lil rats
Big bad Jew ,   United States   (12.13.12)
they have two chances, slim and none. Count on the latter. THERE WILL BE NO pal STATE. BUILD BABY BUILD. DON'T STOP .
18. LIARS. They recognized Israel, but not as a Jewish state.
Yaniv ,   Israel   (12.13.12)
19. He sorta recognises BUT NOT AS A JEWISH STATE
Alan ,   SA   (12.13.12)
20. Abbas
israel israeli ,   tel aviv   (12.13.12)
Abbas is lying. Neither PLO nor Hamas changed their charters to recognize Israel. The only problem is that Israeli leaders (including Netanyahu) have been stupid enough to do Abbas' bidding.
21. Nopw all Abbas has to do is drop the right of return
Noodles ,   Coney Island   (12.13.12)
and we're cooking with gas, for those of us that actually give a sh*t.
22. Hamas has agreed to
sasha ,   bilbao, basque   (12.13.12)
two state solution, but never said which two states.
23. Hey Salma
Corey ,   Canada   (12.13.12)
Finally, you're making some sense. You've finally come to your senses and realize, as you say, that "Palestinian people will never RECOLONIZE Israel." Now, urge your leaders to stop arming themselves and instead to finally do something productive with your lives.
24. To the Apprentice Sorcerers.
Gabe ,   Canada   (12.13.12)
"From the river to the sea" should be on your minds while trying to negotiate with the enemy. Build Israel ! Build !
25. Article 9 of the PA Charter
Maurice ,   Israel   (12.13.12)
Article of the Palestinian Charter includes: "Armed struggle is the only way to liberate Palestine and is therefore a strategy and not a tactic. The Palestinian Arab people affirms its absolute resolution and abiding determination to pursue the armed struggle and to march forward towards the armed popular revolution, to liberate its homeland and restore its right to a natural life, and to exercise its right of self-determination and national sovereignty." Does this mean that the Charter has been superceded?
26. the true Salma #2 hilarious
Arn ,   Yehud, Israel   (12.13.12)
"Palestinian people will never recolonize "Israel" , NEVER." Salma... this makes you a Zionist belonging to the far right. We say the very same thing! Perhaps you meant to write "recognize" instead of "recolonize" but this slip of the tongue shows that in your true mind you are totally with us. You just made my day.
27. lies after lies
naftules ,   jerusalem   (12.13.12)
lies after lies have turned 136million arabs into David and 6millions jews into Goliath!!!
28. lies, lies and more lies
nadav ,   tlv   (12.13.12)
1) Abbas is a dictator almost 5 years past his "election"- if you can call it that. He simply doesn't have the authority to speak on behalf of ANYONE, let alone an Iranian/Syrian backed terror group that is Independently running Gaza, which makes up about half the arab population under the so called "PA"! Any wonder why we do NOT consider him a partner for peace? He is not a legitimately backed ruler! 2) E1 does NOT separate the northern hal of the West Bank from the Southern half because it is contiguous through Jericho, so he and his Euro supporters should STOP disseminating disinformation to the new media!
29. to #18 yaniv
Basco ,   spain   (12.13.12)
I take that druze are second rate citizens of israel since they are not jews? and arabs in israel are third rate?
30. Abbas - The first rule of Negotiating
Sammy ,   Newcastle   (12.13.12)
Is to TAKE THE FIRST initiative Dont paint yourself into a corner dictated by Netanyahus actions Call his bluff and get talks started without preconditions There is SO MUCH MORE to gain. And what is there to lose? Why are we so obsessed with signs, and 'acts of good faith' that have got nothing to do with the resolution of this conflict that has gone on long enough? Go for it Abbas. You have the support You have the ability. Now show us your courage and leadership
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