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20 schoolchildren, 8 others dead in Connecticut massacre
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31. 21 Trev, Canada: The Commandment Thou Shalt Not Murder
Rivkah   (12.15.12)
does not apply to SELF DEFENSE or lawful killing by government authority. In churches where mass killers emerged, a member with a concealed weapon has made a difference by shooting the shooter. At a bookstore in Florida, a patron with a concealed weapon shooting at the shooters stopped the shooters who ran out of of the store as fast as they could. Guns don't kill people. People kill people. A major factor in all of the school mass shootings in recent decades can be traced to SSRI prescription medicines that should be banned from the market. Suicide and murder are not acceptable side effects of medicines. I would put SNRI drugs in the same category. OTC drugs that are similar like St. John's Wort and Samie should also be banned. Marshalls are on airplanes because a flyer with a gun DOES stop a hijacker/murderer. Fear of being shot is a factor for murderers since they often wear bullet proof vests and face masks as body armor. Shooters FEAR being shot. Gun registration and then confiscation preceded holocaust in Nazi Germany and most other regimes where genocide was on the agenda of the leaders. People other than the government not having guns in China resulted in 70 million people being murdered by the government. People other than government not having guns in Russia resulted in 30 million people being murdered by the government.
32. Deepest condolences to all the
Arlene ,   Israel   (12.15.12)
beraved families. Speedy recovery to those wounded. This a a truama that will take all those involved, including the investigation and fire services, a long time to get over, if they ever will. So many innocent little flowers plucked from this world in a matter of minutes. How can anyone not have a heavy heart seeing such a tragedy. AND before any bright spark in the palie camp mentions their kids..yes it is also horrible to see any child die, so love your kids, keep them safe and leave Israel alone!
33. Rivka @#16......
peggy ,   israel/uk   (12.15.12)
The Jewish schools in the U.S. for most do have a good security team on the grounds. As a visitor to one I saw just how hard it was to get through the gate...and I knew the chief of security!!! As for arming teachers...bad idea! That would be such a bad example to the kids. Rivka, schools in the states are not Jihadist training camps! Sadly this can happen anywhere when a dnagerous mental case decides to go on the rampage. Our hearts go out to all the families and Sandy Hook school.
34. All of the T/B's just don't get it !
Barbara ,   Haifa Israel   (12.15.12)
This is a clear case of a mentally deranged boy that probably didn't get the right treatment. Guns, knives, poison, etc. wouldn't have mattered to him, as long as he could hurt and kill. The killing machine was the boy - treat the source first.
35. to #'s 9, 10 & 25...
Ariel ,   Modi'in, Israel   (12.15.12)
The only idiots here are you that do not understand that I did not state that the killing had anything to do with anything political or Obummer!! But... watch and see what impetus the Obummer anti-weapon legislation gets from this event. Acts like this is what Obummer needs to push through his anti-weapon legislation in order to dis-arm the US public in order to prepare for what is coming once all hell breaks out!!
36. #12, Rob
Ariel ,   Modi'in, Israel   (12.15.12)
While there is no doubt that what transpired is a tragedy, the solution will not be to ban sales of weapons. Just listen to Obummer's statements in the immediate aftermath.... "He called on Americans to set aside politics and "take meaningful action" to prevent more tragedies of this kind." He said, "the nation had been "through this too many times" and has to come together to take meaningful action, "regardless of the politics." If you do not understand the intentions then you are blind!!
37. @16 no they weren't Jews, they were "just" human beings!
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you really need to learn to read before making stupid comments!
38. @16 the main memorial is at St. Rosa of Lima CHURCH
Sally Forth ,   Israel   (12.15.12)
this was a Christian community! As an Israeli-Jew I send condolences to the families. Secondly, I don't know where you live, I live in Israel and in our schools teachers DO NOT have guns in classrooms. Most schools in Israel have a guard at the main gate...he or she carry a single handgun. Most of our Schools have a panic button in the principal's office...to ring an alarm connected to local police. But no, NO GUARDS NOT EVEN GUARDS AT THE MA'ALOT TARSHISH SCHOOL WHICH WAS ATTACKED IN 1973 have Uzis. Which is all to say you must be a mis-informed NUTTER!
39. #35
jj   (12.15.12)
yeah, because the last thing a country with 9,000+ deaths due to firearms last year alone is some control over a situation where a kindergarten teacher owns several assault rifles.
40. 1) My condolences! 2)No.16 is not completely wrong..
Jew1 ,   Ashdod   (12.15.12)
I think that the idea of guard with gun and panic button in school is a good. Check each and every parents bags before they enter school. No parent can enter school without a reason. Leave the children on the gate. Along with this you also need a backup plan. Keep a locked gun in school and train principle and one or two others for it. Only they will have access to this gun and will be used if necessary to save lives.
41. 33,37,38 (Peggy, anonymous, Sally Forth)...
Rivkah   (12.15.12)
When I lived in Israel for four months in 2006 there were guards with Uzi's at Sheba Medical Center in Tel Hashomer at the entrance to the shopping center next to the Apropo Hotel, and in the hallway at the Respiratory Rehabilitation Center second floor where Ariel Sharon was located, with two other guards with hand guns and walkie-talkie devices to communicate with each other at their collars. There were guards with Uzi's at hotel entrances and many other places. There were armed IDF with Uzi's on buses and in many places. Did you miss that in living there wearing blinders? The Jewish Rabbi interviewed by CNN at the school in Connecticutt was comforting the parents who lost their children, so many or some must have been Jewish which makes the school a community school for Jews as well as Gentiles. Not too many Catholics want to be comforted by a Rabbi they hate. The Catholic Priest was no where to be seen or to be interviewed until the evening after the shootings. Guess he didn't want to be shot and stayed away from danger until it was all clear. There are many Jews in the US NorthEast so having a Rabbi to arrive at the Fire Station to comfort t he parents who lost children was not surprising. Sorry that makes you all so unhappy. Why do you read a Jewish news network if that is offensive to you?
42. U.S. SHOOTING.
Sjoerd van der Velde ,   Hoorn NH, Holland   (12.15.12)
THE CRIMINAL, BARBAROUS, IDIOTIC KILLER SHOULD GET THE DEATH PENALTY IMMEDIATELY. HOPE EVERYBODY WILL LEARN FROM THIS.
43. 33,37,38: Why didn't the Priest and Pastors RUSH to the
Rivkah   (12.15.12)
school like the Rabbi did, to comfort the parents who lost children who probably called him to come there. The Rabbi RUSHED there because it could have been and WAS a Chabad Mumbai event with the murder of Jewish children who are cherished by Rabbis to the point of putting their own lives in danger to rush to help their flock. One mother rushing to the school where three of her children were during the shootings, saw six children running from the school who told her someone was killing people at the school. That mother stayed with the six children, comforting them, not knowing the fate of her own children until their parents could be located and united with their children. That was like the Rabbi who put others before his own to be on the scene where he was needed and where no other religious leader could be found to be interviewed or to comfort the parents until services later that evening.
44. @27 Marco from spain, Gunnar again...
rob ,   Orangevale, U.S.A.   (12.15.12)
Since you have a problem with our 'cowboy mentality) which shows how absolutely stupid you are when it comes to things American, maybe you can start a campaign in Spain to have cowboys (gaucho's) removed from your society. Do I think it's a problem?! And you get mad when I call you stupid! You opinion is very stupid, same as Marco from Spain's was. Nowhere was the 'cowboy' mentality mentioned you foul scum(s.) This is an act of a desperate young man at the end of his wits. We keep our guns and always will. We as a country fully understand what the potential consequences are, and will do what it takes to make AMERICA stronger and safer. For those of you like Marco that think guns are the problem, instead of the unstable that occasionally get hold of them, then give up your gun, You wont get mine till you pry it from my cold dead hands. The same 'here we go again " goes for stupid Spaniards too. Shalom Israel, Rob
45. 37 The LIbrarian at Sandy Hook School had a last nameJACOB
Rivkah   (12.15.12)
Sounds Jewish to me. A JEWISH lirbrarian hid 14 children in a storage room and barricaded it with a bookshelf and would not open the door to police until a badge was pushed under the door. She knew it was a Chabad-Mumbai event! A JEWISH Rabbi was at the fire house c omforting JEWISH families who lost JEWISH children in the anti-semitic attack on a school with known JEWISH employees and students. Did the mother of the shooter take her sons to target practice, pretending the target was Jews?
46. To find out what happened to the mother and why her son
Rivkah   (12.15.12)
killed her, a heart transplant of her heart into another would reveal that. People who get heart transplants from a murdered person often see in vision, the murder happening. Murder has been solved by that recreation of events. What needs to be known in the shooter's mother's murder is what caused him to kill which a transplanted heart could reveal to the transplant recipient.
47. Rivka...
rob ,   Orangevale, U.S.A.   (12.15.12)
Take the turban off your head and back away from your crystal ball. You are beginning to unravel mentally. Please spare us the delusions. They may be in good nature but the bizarreness is too much. Perhaps a prayer for the dead and wounded would be better. Thanks, Shalom Israel, Rob
48. 30 Devorah: Excellent post!
Rivkah   (12.15.12)
49. 47 Rob, USA: Only the wise recognize wisdom. To fools
Rivkah   (12.15.12)
wisdom is offensive. Those who hate me and my wisdom hate HaShem. That is who people hate so repenting of offending one who is dear to HaShem is important for them to do because blaspheming the Ruach HaKodesh in me is not a sin Yahweh can forgive. Purchase the DVD "Isaiah 9:10 Judgment" by Messianic Rabbi Jonathan Cahn and then make a comment on what I have to say after you have watched it. You also need to read the Holy Scriptures since you are so limited in understanding what is in it. That is not scary for me but it is for you and for others who do not watch and pray that you may be counted worthy to escape ALL these things that will come to pass. If you are not worthy to escape the horrors coming on the Earth as I am, then you need to get to work on getting worthy instead of attacking my posts that are acceptable to HaShem if not to you. Shalom. My name in the ELS Scripture code matrix on my name, birthdate and other information is SOLOMON. HaShem has respect for what I say or He would not call me SHLOMO.
50. 42 Sjoerd: The shooter got the eternal death penalty
Rivkah   (12.15.12)
after he shot himself at the conclusion of killing many others. He is to be pitied more than the children who died and are with HaShem. The Book of Enoch describes the divisions of hell. The worst part of hell is for murderers. That is where the shooter is and there is no hope for him eternally.
51. Ynet what's with this Rivkah TBer?
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52. Rivkha...
rob ,   Orangevale, U.S.A.   (12.15.12)
You are slipping into darkness by equating yourself in any manner to Hashem. May you be forgiven. I cannot begin to fathom what your 'scripture code matrix' has to do with your sliding mental capacity. All I stated was that your bizarre comments are more disturbing than helpful or seemingly appropriate. In no way did I refer to hating you or anybody. It is my right to call you weird, if in fact that is how I view you and your comments after reading them fairly constantly for the past many months. I merely suggested that ' perhaps a prayer for the dead and wounded would be better.' How can you contort that with the "wisdom' of the Great Rivkah' Somebody please help me on this one. Shalom Rivkah, (Shlomo : a common given Hebrew name) Shalom Israel, Rob
53. 52 Rob: When the Ruach HaKodesh resides in a person,
Rivkah   (12.16.12)
to mock that is to mock Yahweh which you have done. What happened to the children who mocked the Prophet Elisha and called him old baldy? A bear devoured them all from HaShem's wrath at the mocking of His Prophet. Be very careful about mocking what is kodesh. I am a eunuch for the Kingdom of El's sake and I have covenants with Yahweh at His request from early in life which I have honored. The US Navy attacked me with perjuries that were not reversed all the way to the SECNAV long ago so I asked Yahweh for vengeance. The US Navy lost half its ships in twenty years from underfunding. When something is halved or doubled in judgment or blessing, it is well to look for Yahweh's hand in it. When I was perjured in California, I asked Yahweh for vengeance and He sent a drought and cut off the water to Central California farmers and ranchers by diverting it into the Pacific Ocean at Sacramento by EPA directive in 2007. That cost the State of Calfornia a mega billion dollar deficit from lost agricultural tax revenue. The County that misused State authority against me lost half its courthouses a few years later from loss of funding. Don't attack what I say unless you want the wrath of Yahweh to come against you. He tells me I am His beloved Wife in whom He is well pleased. Watch out and listen when I speak or shut up and beware.
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