1. Bibi will build, obumma has lost his dictation powers.
Bunnie Meyer ,
Los Angeles, CA USA
2. Awesome, clear truth. (end)
3. Where is Benjamin Netanyahu? Good question.
4. Only selected people
Minister Landau said the exact same thing in 1995 over the proposed insanity of giving the Golan to the Syrians and he sits in the government.
Mr. Netanyahu is very selective in whom he condemns for actions, not selective at all on the actions themselves
5. free will is reserved for civilians soldiers take orders
We criticise the leftist draft dodger who refuse to serve because of their conscience but we are praising the soldier who refuse to follow orders because of their conscience.
Both are breaking the law for conciencous reasons so why praise one and condemn the other?
If anything the soldier is worst because he didn't try to avoid joining the army so he agreed to do things the army way.
The army is based on a chain of command where everybody follows orders and nobody has a right to refuse them even if they conflict with their personal opinions.
If a tank driver refuses to go to war because he believes its an immoral war would we punish him up or praise him?
Without orders you have chaos that gets people killed and you lose wars.
Worldwide thats how the military works.
Even in the civilian world there are laws because all societies have & need laws.
6. Ever heard of the Fourth Geneva Convention
No matter how many times these self righteous Zionists claim victim status they are choosing to ignore the obvious. First, you are not allowed to acquire and keep territory through war. Second, you are not allowed to move your population onto this conquered territory. It violates international law. Saddam Hussein was not allowed to annex Kuwait when he clearly had more of a connection than European Jews whose previous generations had never even seen the Holy Land. Palestinians are not an invented people, they are the Indigenous people.
"Uproot it's own people.This does not exist anywhere else in the world"
Nowhere else in the world, legitimate government moved civilian population into occupied territory. The settlers are not expelled, they simply not supposed to be there in the first place.
8. Leon at #6 is spot on
The Palestinians are as native to PALESTINE as Muslims are to Egypt, muslims to Lebanon, muslims to Jordan, muslims to Chechnya. You can say uprooting Jews is the same as ethnic cleansing all you want, the fact is that you waged war against the natives and uprooted THEM. So what that the Jews lived there 3,000 years ago? The point is that before the 1930's, there weren't any Jews in PALESTINE, and th native Palestinians were living peacefully and quietly with their Muslim neighbours for hundreds of years. The Palestinians had won the land fair and square and you MUST GIVE ALL THE LAND BACK. Before 1967, all walks of faith were welcome to their holy sites. Now muslims must go through horrendous checkpoints for ABSOLUTELY NO REASON AT ALL!!! This site needs more Leon the Great, and less armchair generals.
the differences in legal application to land obtained by force and land obtained through a defensive war? Clearly not. Have you ever heard of Sephardi and Mizrachi Jews? Your vision of a Jew is probably limited to the European 'black hats' due to your inherent leftist racism. More than 50% of Israeli's never set foot in Europe and their ancestors never set foot in Europe.
The Palestinians seem to defy logic and nature according to the sentiments of your ilk since they are the only 'people' to have grown in number whilst undergoing 'genocide' and 'ethnic cleansing'. Perhaps its the propagandist terminologies that need the re-working.
10. Expulsion is a
A Jew ,
11. To: No. 8
How do you account for the fact that Ottoman census records and British census records refer exclusively to Jews as Palestinians? Arabs were always referred either as "Arab" or "Bedouin." Moreover, I suggest you go back to school. To make a statement that there were no Jews in Palestine prior to the 1930s is beyond ridiculous. To make a second statement that all faiths were allowed to worship at their holy sites in East Jerusalem is also inaccurate.
You are not going to last very long on these threads with the degree of ignorance that you embody.
Sarah B ,
U.S.A. / Israel
12. uprooting 200k jews will mean civil war
You saw what moving 5 k from Gaza did. This will be more than the some of its parts.
Lemmings Hotline ,
13. #6 have you ever read it?
If you had you would discover that you are talking out of your rear end.
The Arabs do not, nor have they ever had a valid claim to any of the land. That too is part of that Fourth Geneva Convention. They MUST be a high contracting party. They are not nor have they ever been a high contracting party. And second they must have a sovereign claim to the land in question and the other nation must not also have a sovereign claim to the land.
Since the Arabs do not have a sovereign claim to the land and we do, and they are not a high contracting party and we are - they are the illegal occupation - not us.
They themselves state that no they are not an indigenous people - they are Arabs and Arabs are not indigenous outside of Arabia. We are from JUDEA - we are the indigenous people.
14. #7 igorant about the entire world
"Nowhere else in the world, legitimate government moved civilian population into occupied territory. " Is that so - wow - the Turkish government has done that in Armenia, Cyprus, and Kurdish territory? Ever hear of Tibet? How about the Malvinas, or Northern Ireland, Australia, Morocco, Algeria - the list is endless.
Since it is our land - yes they are suppose to be there - in fact it happens to be part of the UN Charter - you are very intelligent at all
yeah you're right,partly. At least the indegenous people in the countries you mentioned didn't go thru miserable live like the Palestinian in Area C.
16. SOVEREIGN CLAIM
Gee, I don't know much about history but I believe both jews and arabs lived together in this land 4000 years ago and your claim to this land is only accepted among yourself not the international law.
The people that you drove out in 1948 are indegeneous but those who came from europe are not.
17. #16 partially correct
"Gee, I don't know much about history but I believe both jews and arabs lived together in this land 4000 years ago" You are right - you don't know much about history - that is the only correct part you wrote.
The Arabs didn't live here 4,000 years ago - they lived in ARABIA.
The San Remo Treaty, Mandate for Palestine and UN Charter are not international law? Since when?
We drove nobody out - nor were the Arabs that occupied our land indigenous. The UN and the Arabs dispute your statement. We were ethnically cleansed from Judea, Samaria, Gaza and the eastern part of our capital. That too is a historic fact.
In short you do not know what you are writing about and are merely repeating Arab propaganda. It isn't remotely close to the truth.
18. Nice try #13
First of all, yes I have read the Fourth Geneva Conventions and it does apply to the Palestinians. Instead of hurling childish insults, you might try reading the ruling by the International Court of Justice in July 2004 on the wall. It was unanimous and it ruled that East Jerusalem, the WB and Gaza are "Occupied Palestinian Territories." As the occupying power, Israel violated and is violating International law.
19. Must end Arab occupation of Israel for peace
Arabs in Israel are foreign invaders and settlers. They are not indigenous as people have been tricked to believe and are the main obstacle to peace. Just as the East Bank has no Jews and is peaceful the West Bank of the Jordan must be free of Arab occupiers and their settlements to make a lasting peace. This must be done in a peaceful manner and in a way that respects human rights for both people. If not there will be eternal conflict as the Arab settlers grab more and more of the Jewish homeland. Land for peace.