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UK 'very disappointed' by Ariel university upgrade
Elior Levy
Published: 27.12.12, 22:05
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31. The UK Government's position
Ben ,   london UK   (12.28.12)
There never was any such thing as 1967 borders, merely a ceasefire line following the expunging of the Jordanian occupation. It's a shame that Mr Burt does not seem to find time to talk about the Syrian murder of some 44,000 people rather than this. The particular part of the territory in question was never going to be part of the future Palestinian state under the Oslo Accords
32. re28:Obama controls the US vote in UNSC, not Congress
Bscot ,   Dallas, Texas   (12.28.12)
After Syria gov is replaced then Obama with setup a total peace deal with the Arabs, Muslim Brotherhood and Palestinians that Israel will have to except or face the UNSC without a US UNSC veto in its backpocket. Obama is setting up the groundwork now and the farther Israel move to the right the easy it will be for Obama to pull off.
33. Londonistan is the loser
ReaderX   (12.28.12)
The UK: most remaining British companies have been swallowed up by foreign conglomerates over the last three, four years. The North of England is not only in an economic death spiral: it is economic death incarnated, just blight and old junk. They are losing Scotland and are only a sad shadow of their once great empire. They are nobody to criticize Israel so who cares.
34. No. 19 The Queen is not part of this so
John Phee ,   Sydney AUSTRALIA   (12.28.12)
The Queen is not part of this so slagging of at her is pointless unless you are trying to simply insult the British through her. If that is the case two can play & I don't think that you would like what they would say. The Brits are not too bad themselves, its just their cowardly government that needs the oil money & Arab votes. But I agree with most of what you say. What the Brits need is another Disraeli to show then how to be independent & great again. Well that will not happen soon if for no other reason that Disraeli was a statesman not a politician.................. as well as being a Jew.
35. The Fourth Geneva Convention is useless & does not really ex
John Phee ,   Sydney AUSTRALIA   (12.28.12)
The Fourth Geneva Convention was ratified in 1949, that a given historical fact. Now what else was happening in & about that times......... ah yes Germans were being raped & murdered in the tens of thousands & expelled from their homelands in Eastern Europe. Hungarians were suffering the same. The same people who issued the Fourth Geneva Convention were also massacring & expelling others. So much for the integrity of the Convention & those that framed it.
36. Ferdinand I agree with you to some extent but
John Phee ,   Sydney AUSTRALIA   (12.28.12)
I agree that the level of antipathy towards other peoples countries is saddening. I don't agree with branding all with the sins of some. Mind you Jews have had to suffer this for two thousand years & it didn't worry anyone. However you must appreciate that Jews are fed up with the mindless name calling from elected officials as well as unelected officials & wrongly Jews blame nations for the failings of their politicians & officials. On the matter of if the whole world says one thing & Israel another. If you recall Czechoslovakia, the whole world said it would be good to sacrifice it. Then as now the world is wrong.
37. UK 'very disappointed'
PAPO ,   USA   (12.28.12)
Mind your own business ..Wankers
38. 28
(12.28.12)
not so fast. they may do or push or whatever. the decision is still by israel and israel alone. it is a suveriegn nation.
39. What did Lord Caradon have to say about the greenline?
Gee ,   Zikron Yaakov   (12.28.12)
Journal of Palestine Studies, “An Interview with Lord Caradon,” Spring - Summer 1976, pgs 144-45: Q. The basis for any settlement will be United Nations Security Council Resolution 242, of which you were the architect. Would you say there is a contradiction between the part of the resolution that stresses the inadmissibility of the acquisition of territory by war and that which calls for Israeli withdrawal from “occupied territories,” but not from “the occupied territories”? A. I defend the resolution as it stands. What it states, as you know, is first the general principle of inadmissibility of the acquisition of territory by war. That means that you can’t justify holding onto territory merely because you conquered it. We could have said: well, you go back to the 1967 line. But I know the 1967 line, and it’s a rotten line. You couldn’t have a worse line for a permanent international boundary. It’s where the troops happened to be on a certain night in 1948. It’s got no relation to the needs of the situation. Had we said that you must go back to the 1967 line, which would have resulted if we had specified a retreat from all the occupied territories, we would have been wrong. In New York, what did we know about Tayyibe and Qalqilya? If we had attempted in New York to draw a new line, we would have been rather vague. So what we stated was the principle that you couldn’t hold territory because you conquered it, therefore there must be a withdrawal to – let’s read the words carefully – “secure and recognized boundaries.” The can only be secure if they are recognized. The boundaries have to be agreed; it’s only when you get agreement that you get security. I think that now people begin to realize what we had in mind – that security doesn’t come from arms, it doesn’t come from territory, it doesn’t come from geography, it doesn’t come from one side domination the other, it can only come from agreement and mutual respect and understanding. Therefore, what we did, I think, was right; what the resolution said was right and I would stand by it. It needs to be added to now, of course. ... We didn’t attempt to deal with [the questions of the Palestinians and of Jerusalem] then, but merely to state the general principles of the inadmissibility of the acquisition of territory by war. We meant that the occupied territories could not be held merely because they were occupied, but we deliberately did not say that the old line, where the troops happened to be on that particular night many years ago, was an ideal demarcation line.
40. UK disappointing
Larry ,   Los Angeles   (12.28.12)
If anything is disappointing, it is the UK and their treatment of the Jewish state from its inception. Need we review the British and their treatment of the Jews in Palestine up to the creation of the state or should we just focus on their lop-sided support of the Arab cut-throats since the state of Israel? If something is disappointing it is the UK!
41. Can someone tell UK that the Mandate ended in 1948
Alan ,   SA   (12.28.12)
42.  Abbas has accepted 1967 borders pending arrival of 5 M Pals
Alan ,   SA   (12.28.12)
refugees to TA Haifa and El Quds
43. Why is Ynet so obsessed with who likes Israel?
Quagmire   (12.28.12)
What kind of a paper runs daily stories about who has something "negative" to say about Israel and spin it into all directions.
44. Illegal occupation and settlements
Alex   (12.28.12)
If the Americans and EU both agree that Israeli settlements in occupied Palestinian territory violate International Law, then why don't they impose sanctions on Israel rather than invent more metaphors of appeasement.
45. to 25.It's better to be Rhodesia than New Zimbabwe
Marcus   (12.28.12)
46. #29. Out! Out of the Falkland Islands.
Mike B ,   London   (12.28.12)
So that the Argentinians who gave Hezbollah free-reign in Buenos Aires can take over? The Falkland Islands had no indigenous peoples, unlike the whole of South America.Just remember who handed passports to Nazis.
47. Higher ed
Hmm. ,   Chicago   (12.28.12)
University upgrades, housing units. What crimes will the Israeli government think up next?
48. And that Mrs Ashton is not the sccessor to Admiral Cunninghm
Alan ,   SA   (12.28.12)
49. good luck.
indio da selva ,   Brazil   (12.28.12)
It's neither Cambridge nor Oxford anyway...
50. It's worthy to note that ONLY the UK...
William ,   Israel   (12.28.12)
recognized Jordanian illegal annexation of land in 1949, which under the Geneva Convention is a war crime. Now, you know the basic platform of the UK in the ME.
51. Jews DIED in the '67 war to end arab plan to eliminate
Bunnie Meyer ,   Los Angeles, CA USA   (12.28.12)
Israel. They didn't die in vain and the EU can go pound sand.
52. Vikings go back home
Ezekial Haim ,   LONDON UK   (12.28.12)
Viking occupiers of British Isles(now called English),go back to where you came from and stop building in Britain.
53. Typical British Politician
Ezekial Haim ,   LONDON UK   (12.28.12)
Brian,do you mean that he is a hypocrite?Are you at all surprised?
54. The article in Hebrew is different
StoutViking   (12.28.12)
It read that UK calls Ariel an illegal settlement... Eitherway it's not up to England to read us morals with its illegal settlement of Folkland. Up yours, c*nt.
55. Hey UK, Stop occupying the Falkland
Reuven   (12.28.12)
Islands, et al. You Brits have left a bloody trail of violence all over the world. And your policies made the Shoah that much worse. Muslim domination and Sharia Law is in the UK's future. Have fun, UK.
56. Imaginary Green Line
Chaim Ben Kahan ,   Efrat, Israel   (12.28.12)
The University in Ariel is no less legal than a University in London, Paris, Moscow, Amman, or anywhere else. We must stop the Antisemitism that dares to claim that this University is not part of Israel.
57. Tragic blindness
Istvan ,   BUDAPEST HUNGARY   (12.28.12)
Is this the most important issue for them ? The first datas of 2011 census shows, that the british white population dropped from 92% to 84% in last decade. In London the majority of school children are already coloured. and the phenomenon is accelerating with arrival new and new immigrants. Finita Britanniae !
58. free tommy robinson!
kukuck ,   germany   (12.28.12)
59. #25
Peace   (12.28.12)
I agree with you. Exactly, they have a point. In fact very loud and clear.
60. Hey Ali
Henry ,   Haifa, Israel.   (12.28.12)
Just close your eyes and think of the empire [that was].
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