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Satmar rebbe: Haredi MKs taking bribes    Kobi Nahshoni
1. The Satmars
I am sure they would be very happy in Iran I would like to start a special fund to relocate them. I just want them to be happy, if some of them don't want to go to Iran I recommend Syria. They would be most WELCOME. Please contact me when I can contribute Les Szenes
Les Szenes ,   Richmond Hill Canada   (01.04.13)
2. Satmar Rebbe Condemns Other Rabbis
We want to know the truth right? A cool head will remember that the same "rebbe" condemning the other rabbis for their misbehavior as seeking "bribes" aquiesced in his supporters fist fights, etc. when the battle for royal succession occurred in Satmar not so long ago. Further, Satmar collected "25 dollars for "social assistance programs from me at shul, and the next week I read that the rebbe was going to Israel and paying people not to vote in Israel's elections. Sad what our rabbis have come to. What do I do with this truth? Maybe I should just close my eyes.
MR ,   NJ,USA   (01.04.13)
3. 2 - Maybe I should just close my eyes.
Maybe you should get a job and stop looking for handouts ,...
split ,   US   (01.05.13)
4. The satmar goyim should keep out of
Israeli and Jewish affairs! What happens in Israel is for us Jews and not that sick satmar cult.
jason white ,   afula,israel   (01.05.13)
5. MR #2
I was brought up in that world too but left that cult many years ago. You see the older I got and opened my eyes more and saw beyond the yeshiva world I realised were just barely the size of a pinhead compared to whats out there. Look at our milky way alone not to mention our galaxy, let alone the billions of other galaxy's out there all with many worlds and probably teaming with other life. What does the chassideshe rebbes say? alles gemacht nor far de yidden. Gimme a break how self centred can one be. In the end all these 'heilige rabbonim' are no different then the pope and the church (lehavdil). Because its all about self empowerment and accumulation of wealth, power and money. Its no different. One promises a kingdom 'in the next life' but only they hold the keys whereas our mishpoocha say only through their yiddishkeit is there olam habo and not gehonim. All primitive narishkeit. We humans have been doing that for milleniums already. Ein chadash mitachat hashemesh - nothing new under the sun. If you are a family man it may be too hard to leave it all but singularly one can do anything as I have done. Est iz doo a such narishkeit im shtifat hamoach. Choose your own path.
Yid   (01.05.13)
6. #5 - our milky way alone not to mention our galaxy
Milky Way is our galaxy, pinhead ;) ,...
split ,   US   (01.05.13)
7. #5
I stand corrected, twat :)
Yid   (01.05.13)
8. very well said, # 5
aaron   (01.05.13)
9. criminals - period
They are only old (and young) criminals, wanting to destroy the rootes of the Jewish Nation
(01.05.13)
10. For the sake of clarity
I would point out that although Rabbi Yoel Teitelbaum of Satmar was a recognized Gadol HaDor, he was nearly alone among the Gedolei HaDor who opposed voting and taking part in the secular Jewish state. Jews, including famous Rabbis sat in the legislatures in Germany and Poland pre-war and spoke for Torah values, just as there are religious Jews in the legislatures of the UK and USA today. Satmar speaks for Satmar, not for Orthodox Judaism.
Sherlock Holmes ,   London England   (01.06.13)
11. Milky Way - #5 is Correct
The term Milky Way is used in two ways: to mean our galaxy and - when observing the sky (in colloquial speech) - to mean that portion of our galaxy visible to the naked eye. That is how I took your paragraph. Perfectly fine in colloquial speech. The know it all who criticized you must be unbelievably insecure.
Steve ,   Dallas USA   (01.05.13)
12. sprotje 3 , yes close your eyes , forever
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (01.06.13)
13. This "rebbe" is right !
charedim should not vote , not have MK's , not take our money . All of them .
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (01.06.13)
14. the satmers are no example , molestation.
the zollies against the moishes againt the dovids . should i go on all they do is create chillul hashem anyway
alan ashkenazie ,   nyc ny   (01.06.13)
15. In a democratie EVERY citizen should
vote.Period.
ORA ,   JERUSALEM   (01.06.13)
16. Ora 15 , Every CONTRIBUTING citizen
and not those opposing the state . In a democracy [ where is your "corrector" ? ] people can choose the way to get married , can have public transportation 7/7 . In a democracy religion is separated from the State , and all citizens share the responsability for the defense of their country .
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (01.06.13)
17. 16 Charles, It takes 2 to quarrel...
Don t count on me.
ORA ,   JERUSALEM   (01.06.13)
18. Ora , 17 . Big LOOSER !!!
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (01.06.13)
19. 18 Charles,glad you noticed...
But you exaggerate a bit, calling me ,"BIG" loser ,when i have been on diet only for one day . Seriously,I think, giving up doesn t always prove we are losers ,sometimes it means we are smart enough to let it go and move on.
ORA ,   JERUSALEM   (01.06.13)
20. Ora 19
You are "smart enough" to know that you can't refute what i said , so you moved on , fled . You "proved" how "smart" you are when talking about "4 million' and revisionists . You gave good "food" to our "friewnds" . Very smart indeed , and it was NOT an error .
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (01.07.13)
21. 20 Charles Google"How many people
died in Auschwitz"before accusing me of saying lies.. Enough for me.
ORA ,   JERUSALEM   (01.07.13)
22. #3 split, maybe you should just...get lost
and get a life.
Jake   (01.07.13)
23. Satmar offering bribes to get others to stop taking bribes
With no moral authority to convince others, what can one do but resort to the tried and tested method of 'baksheesh'?
Jake   (01.07.13)
24. Ora . We are talking about JEWS !
It is estimated that around ONE million Jews , and we are talking about JEWS , were murdered in Auschwitz . NOT 4 million . I did'nt accuse you of telling lies , but telling stupidities , it's worse . And what about your "revisionists who diminished this number to one million" ? You " enough for me " is the same , you can't refute what i say , so you flee , sad , very sad .
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (01.07.13)
25. 24 Charles,i flee from you because..
of your intolerant view of what a democratie should be.
ORA ,   JERUSALEM   (01.07.13)
26. Ora , INTOLERANT ????
Democracy means also egal rights and egal obligations . Egal rights to choose a way of life not at the expenses of others , or a way a life that leaves the others rights too . Egal obligations to share the burden of everything , the finances , contribution , defense . If that is intolerant , you again show your ignorance as you did with the 4 million .
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (01.07.13)
27. 26 Charles You want to quarrel ....
alone? Go ahead ,make my day ! Good night ,Charles.
ORA ,   JERUSALEM   (01.07.13)
28. Ora , POOR BIG LOOSER .
Who can't refute anything so flees , flees , bye bye .
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (01.08.13)
29. 28 Charles I can t refute?
The Haredi have the same rights as every other citizen to vote. The laws of the country are not made by you but by the members of the Knesset. If the secular want to have an absolute majority,in order they don t need Haredi s in the coalition,let them make lots of children. I fully realise that i repeat myself,and i expect not better from you. We both are convinced that we are right,so it is a waste of time to discuss on this subject,the more we have zero influence . Let s change for a less sensible subject and stay friends.
ORA ,   JERUSALEM   (01.08.13)
30. Ora , the same rights , yes
But what about the same OBLIGATIONS ? Why are yeshiva students receiving state money when they study , while univ students not ? They have the same rights , not ?
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (01.08.13)
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