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Livni: PM bringing end of Jewish state
Moran Azulay
Published: 11.01.13, 16:24
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1. Livni more desperate and pathetic by the day.
Chaim ,   Israel   (01.11.13)
Hopefully, this election will put a virtual end to the career of one of the worst politicians Israel has ever known: Tzippi Livni. Livni was an absolute disaster every time she had a chance to influence Israel. From her idiotic cease fire with Hizbullah, which denied Israel victory in Lebanon. To her disgraceful conduct at Annapolis. To her support for Disengagement. Livni has never done anything good for Israel in her public life. Now she gets more desperate and pathetic each day. Good riddance to Livni!
2.  LIVNI SHOULD STOP
CAPTAIN OBVIOUS ,   SAFED ISRAEL   (01.11.13)
Livni must stop behaving like a hysterical pre-menstrual woman.
3. A democracy or a dictatorship?
Mark Jeffery Koch ,   Cherry Hill, USA   (01.11.13)
On the pages of most Israeli Internet news sites thousands of comments are posted every week accusing anyone who does not agree with the Netanyahu government of being an anti semite and any Jew who voted for Obama and supports a two State solution is called a self hater and enemy of the Jewish people. This right wing drumhead has permeated itself into Israel with former heads of the Shin Bet, Mossad, former generals in the IDF, and former and current members of the Knesset called traitors and the enemy because they do not agree with Netanyahu. Former Prime Minister Rabin has been called a traitor to his people as has former Foreign Minister Zippi Livni, and former Defense Minister Barak who is the most decorated soldier in Israel's history. When Moshe Dagan, the former head of the Mossad, publicly stated his opposition to bombing Iran his loyalty to Israel was questioned and even he was called a traitor by thousands of people. Justices on Israel's Supreme Court have been called traitors by the far right and religious. This is total madness and we American Jews must not tolerate it and we must speak out against it because it will wind up destroying Israel in the end. Israel's supporters love to claim to the world that Israel is the only democracy in the Middle East. If that is so why do these same people engage in character assassination, debasement, and demeaning of anyone who dares to criticize the policies of the Netanyahu government? Why is it wrong for former and current generals in Israel's military and members of Israel's security agencies to criticize bombing Iran? Why is it wrong for American Jews and many Israeli citizens to support a two State solution to the Israeli Palestinian conflict? When Bush and Cheney were in office anyone who questioned parts of the Patriot Act because they might not be constitutional was called a traitor and supporter of Bin Ladin, which was a disgusting, horrible slur. The same right wing fanaticism is on display in Israel. Either you agree 100% with the current Israeli government or else you are an anti semite or, if you are a Jew, a self hating Jew. No sane person can accept this but yet it is getting worse by the day. More and more people are being silenced and more and more people are being slurred and have their reputations destroyed with accusations of anti semitism. Any country that tries to silence its critics is not a democracy. What once made Israel so special was the fact that spirited debate and disagreements were a vital part of its democracy. Attacking someone's Jewishness, their character, and trying to destroy them is not what the founders of Israel ever envisioned. Impugning peoples motives, their integrity, and branding them an anti semite simply because they oppose policies of the current Israeli government is repulsive and must be resisted by all those who truly love Israel.
4. What's wrong with her?
bad Assed Jew ,   United States   (01.11.13)
Everything!
5. What is 'she' were a 'he'?
bad Assed Jew   (01.11.13)
could we just use the word S-T-U-P-I-D?? I think you may have insulted other pre menstrual with more brains.
6. Livni has nothing's left to offer except more fear-mongering
Shaul R   (01.11.13)
She needs to leave politics asap and take Peres with her.
7. peres and livni
alexi   (01.11.13)
peres says you make peace with eyes closed to show how ignorant and dumb he is, consistently throughout his career on big decisions. Likud certainly has a lot of rot in it to have come up with livni who comes across as a red faced month end nut job, total nut job. It was not enought that olmert snuck in when sharon got sick and we know how he screwed it up for israel. But livni is challenging him for incompettence and stupidity. She and olmert rely on the world, obama to save poor israel and she subverts israel to zdimmitude to the bs artists on the ramallah occupiers. Her husband is her advisor and after her party does poorly in the election, their marriage will suffer as she looks in the mirror and realizes how incompetent she really is.
8. # 3... really?
Dana Rothschild ,   Jerusalem, Israel   (01.11.13)
really "every week accusing anyone who does not agree with the Netanyahu government of being an anti semite"??? I see the opposite: every day Livni, Yechimowicz & co warn us of "the end of Jewish State"... and what has Livni new to offer, what already was offered by Rabin, Peres and Barak? and how it ended? you, american Jews "must not tolerate it"?? so long, dear Mark, as you sit comfortably in the USA and don't need to pay for the consequences of the decision of an israeli government, as we in Israel have to pay to this day and many days to come, for the decision of Oslo Treaty, your tolerance or lack of it has no importance whatsoever...
9. #3.Mark: The U.S. leftists are even worse
Tom W ,   USA   (01.11.13)
Your conniption from the U.S. rings hollow: nothing beats the rabid hate campaign that emanating from the radical left and the Obama lapdog media. We have nothing in common with the Soros, Jstreet and N.Y. Times promoted quasi Marxist hysteria.
10. fire under the ashes
sam ,   colorado-USA   (01.11.13)
Israel must find solutions with the Palestinian Authority, because what is happening in the Arab world to change systems will not be far away from Israel, So beware of fire under the ashes
11. Blind
Jarvis ,   Joseph USA   (01.11.13)
Why make peace with those who reject peace. They slander you at every level of diplomacy. Their terrorist are now political leadership.They build up bulwarks against you near and far.This woman is still in denial. Is something wrong with her? Are Israelis that blind to believe that these people want peace with Israel? This will be a political backfire for Livini. Most of the candidates just do not have the nads to deal with the political climate in the region. I guess she thinks its good to give into the demands of the enemy? Either you are Israel or you or not. Hearken to the commandment #3 because there is no backing out now.
12. Steinitz is right
Anshel ,   Canada   (01.11.13)
13. She needs Prozac and relex
Prognson   (01.11.13)
14. Livni makes even Shelly look good and that takes some doing
Noodles ,   Coney Island   (01.11.13)
15. @10 "Israel must find solutions with the Palestinian"
trump   (01.11.13)
" Or ?????????????? I prefer to test the unknown .
16. Theocracy, with Jews only. Rabbi & Priest leading the gov.
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17. Land for Peace is a failed proposition
Chaim Ben Kahan ,   Efrat, Israel   (01.11.13)
The enemies of Israel are not offering Israel peace and never has. Everything we have seen from the PA indicates they are gearing up for a large war against Israel and covet ALL of the land of Israel. OSLO has proven to be a tragedy and the biggest mistake Israel has ever made. Lets realize this and move on.
18. Israel must achieve total victory over "Palestinians".
Chaim ,   Israel   (01.11.13)
Israel's true path to peace is the same way as the WW II Allies. The same path that brought permanent peace to Europe and Asia. Total victory with no concesions whatsoever. We have nothing to discuss with "Palestinian" poseurs except their departure from our land.
19. princess livni is unfit for office
Cipora Julianna Kohn ,   Z   (01.11.13)
20. Livni and Ben Eliezer
abe 4u ,   Migdal Ha Emek -Isra   (01.11.13)
Livni should have a muzzle put on her - to prevent her from spewing rubbish. We saw her performance during the 2nd Lebannon war - pathetic o say the least. She has an over inflated ego - where she HAS to be #1 -- perhaps at home she can try that but not on the national level. Ben Eliezer -- when we got out of Gaza said that " even one rocket fired from Gaza - and we will wipe them out " -- yep so he said that so what ? 1000s of rockets later - we wait for him and Peres to do something -- so we can keep on waiting !! Big deal.
21. Opposition
Jarvis ,   Joseh, USA   (01.11.13)
When opposition bows to enemy demands for personal gain over the survival of the people; It is the result of a coward secretly making or offering to make a covenant with the enemy. It is why military, intelligence and other defense agencies with adequate knowledge and capability step in and throw their weight behind those that are aware. If you think 1 rocket aimed at Israel will be dismantled raise your hand.
22. A logical reply to an insane.
To #3 ,   NYC NY   (01.11.13)
First of all democracy allows anyone to critisise anyone else. Just because some one expressed an opinion that people like yourself, Rabin, Livni, etc are trators does not mean that demorcacy is dead. As far as you and your kind being tratitors - I could not agree more. It is because of people like you amongs us in US and Israel that we have the problems we have. You simply do not uderstand that you can not make peace with someone who wants to kill you. Just like peace was not possible with the Nazies it is not possible with the Musilms.
23. Mark Jeffrey Koch, 3
Cipora Julianna Kohn ,   Z   (01.11.13)
the press in israel is more diverse, and certainly much freer than the press in the us. just compare what the israeli press writes about netanyahu with what the us press writes about obama. there is no criticism of saint obama in the main stream media. many of his policies are not even reported in the press. so you should really be concerned about what happens in the us, not about what happens in israel. in israel, former generals, former heads of the mossad, equivalent of the cia, former head of the shin bet, equivalent of the fbi, the sitting president are all free to criticise the prime minister and his government. this would be unthinkable in the united states.
24. Livni should worry about Syrian chemical weapons
Cipora Julianna Kohn ,   Z   (01.11.13)
we hear not a word from livni about the danger posed to israel by syrian chemical weapons. the us has withdrawn all its assets from the mediterranean, leaving the arena to assad's ally, russia.
25. Livni is right
Sarah B ,   London/Tel Aviv   (01.11.13)
All Netanyahu has offered the people of Israel is bigger and taller fences on the border. His attempt at boosting his popularity by bombing Gaza has ended with the lifting of the blockade with Hamas still in power Netanyahu's time has come and gone, we need political leadership which will confront the demographic reality and establish the two state solution, any delay will see the imposition of sanctions by the international community on Israel. Things are getting tough economically around the world, blaming the Jew and imposing sanctions on Israel will boost their popularity
26. # 18...So how long did it take for Germany to become
Edithann ,   USA   (01.11.13)
the powerhouse it is today.? 70 years I'd say and just about the time it will be for Palestine and Palestinians to recover....ICC, BDS and the new American awakening... TATA
27. LIVNI HAS LOST HER MIND COMPLETELY
My Planet Israel ,   La-Jerusalem   (01.11.13)
Desperation doesn't make the cut concerning this statement: its just plain insanity. Someone needs to hold this loose cannon culpable for her words: freedom of speech aside; she is setting a dangerous precedent with such recklessly irresponsible statements. While most certainly nobody will take her seriously, it is still a danger to our security, national character and unity.
28. #8 Stop playing the victim
Mark Jeffery Koch ,   Cherry Hill, USA   (01.11.13)
Dana, you need to stop playing the victim. The Israel of 2013 is not the Israel of 1948. Israel has the world's second best airforce, the best military in the Middle East, an estimated 200 nuclear weapons and is one of the top five countries in the world in technology. There is no army or combination of armies in the entire Middle East that can defeat Israel, so please stop playing the victim and poor little Israel. Israel is strong and not weak and is not a victim. If Hamas ever manages to land a rocket on a major city and kill dozens or hundreds of people Gaza will be destroyed with thousands of people killed. If Hezbollah does the same Lebanon will be turned into sand, so please do not try and paint Israel as the Israel of 1948. For you and all the Israelis who lambast American Jews because we don't live there perhaps you need to try and find a charity in Israel, a hospital, or a school, a clinic, and hundreds of other organizations that Israel has that are not being funded primarily by the contributions of the American Jewish community. Instead of so many posters calling Obama the enemy because he asked for a freeze in settlements perhaps you need to find one country on this planet who does not agree with Obama that the continued expropriation of Palesinian land is illegal. Most American Jews, and most people on this planet do not buy into the fantasy that because Jews lived on the land 3,000 years ago anyone not Jewish who has lived on the land for the past 200 years needs to leave. The more I show comments and posts to my American Jewish friends about the anger displayed by Israelis who debase them for daring to criticize Israel the more they all tell me they are refusing to contribute one more dime to Israel. Stop biting the hand that feeds you. Everything from your protection from the U.S. Congress, to the arms you use to defend yourself, to the billions in aid for the elderly, the infirmed, and children is because of American Jewry and we have a right to question the current Israeli government. Everytime Netanyahu is criticized by Americans you Israeli's go crazy and think your legitimacy is being questioned. It is NOT. Your current leader is not liked by most of the world's leaders and by a siginificant number of American Jews, many of whom have visited Israel numerous times and who have each donated thousands of dollars to Israel.
29. Bibi is right-muslims do not want peace
Don Rosenberg ,   Palatine USA   (01.11.13)
with Israel, they want Israel. They have said this and Jews like # Koch, are morons to thinks otherwise. The liberal Jews are naive to believe the racist arab muslims. They are waiting to see us divided and they will start another war. The smart approach is to accept that the arab muslim racists will always be our enemy until they change, otherwise stay strong and prepare to destroy them when attacked. As American Jew I support the conservative Israeli's and believe the arabs do want to destroy us, and we should prepare to annihilate them and all the arab racist muslims.
30. #3 Mark Koch, Inteteresting diatribe
Jake   (01.11.13)
But you fail to address the far more prevelant phenomenon of Israel and Israelis and Jews being demonized and slandered on the internet (including this site, to say nothing about Haaretz articles and forums), on international forums, at the UN, and just about everywhere. The BDS movement, for instance, is a sinister undemocratic and antidemocratic movement that operates by stealth, lies, libels, and "der-Stuermer" like imagery to delegitimize Israel. And ultimately, the election will be decided by democratic voting by the Israeli people acting on their own preferences in a free and fair election. If Livni is unable to form a coalition and is thus kept out of power, she has only herself to blame for her own failures, not the Israeli people and not some online talkbackers' posts.
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