Would he let his sister go to the club? How many Druze women to to the clubs?
2. Don´t be foolish on this one, Ethan #1
There is nothing to have a mixed feelings about. This is nothing but racism. How many ultra orthodox Haredim would let their sisters go to the night clubs ? Totally irrelevant as well as your question. What about denying Jews access to Night Clubs in Europe, just because there are ultra orthodox Jews who wouldn´t let their sisters go? This guy is an Israeli citizen. Period. On top of that - and apart of that - he has defended his country as a combat soldier. So you have "mixed feelings" about RACISM on Holocaust remembrence day I see, well guess you have some kind of amnesia combined with strange feelings I say.
the druze israelis are more loyal and nationalist to the state of Israel more than many leftist jews, why that take place in Israel which is considered a democratic country, that means that there is no difference between Israel and any other arab country !!!!
4. # 1 is mixed up, not mixed feelings!
As a reserve combat officer, as an Israeli and as a Jew I am outraged that these two events occurred! All self respecting Israeli"s should boycott these morally bankrupt establishments. Full stop. No rationalizations needed.
5. He was not discreminated because he was a Duze, but because
he was non-jewish. The same would happen to Christians, Beduions, Greeks, etc. More confirmation that israel is racists & apartheid.
6. Poor Guy; but This is Not Idemic
I feel for the guy and he should sue. However, the vast majority of Israelis have no problems with Muslim Druzes, Musilm Circussians, Muslim Bedouin, or Christian Arabs. It is the sedentary Muslim Arab Israelis who don't show any loyalty, never pay tax, and scream racism at the slightest thing while taking in more and more appropriations from the state to ensure that they catch up to the rest of the country in terms of living standards. Hypocrites.
7. #1 How the hell is this relevant to the article ?
8. a valid point to bring up, #1
ME reality hitting home.
The Druze don't want Jews hitting on their women, and vice versa.
The soldier ran into a boundary line.
9. Mixed Feelings?
The club should be sued for racism.
10. # 1...Is he supposed to offer his sister?.
Do you want a chance to 'get at' a Druze woman? What's the purpose of that dumb remark?
Anyway, everyone knows Israeli's aren't racists...
11. Non-Valid point Cameron #8
Many Afro-American males don´t like Whites hitting on their females, still YOU can enter any Afro-American night club you wish in the US, regardless of your ethnical background. Try to think for once in a while...please?
12. #1 - I d i o t !!! ,...
13. #1 - Why does that even matter?
This is an Israeli patriot and productive citizen looking to have some fun at the club, he deserves entry without being harassed just like anyone else.
14. #6 Tommy.
Many muslim arabs serves in the IDF, and FYI bedoins are muslim arabs., but majority of them dont. i believe if the Druz and jews have the choice like muslim arabs have., to not to serve in the IDF, many of them wouldnt. And Muslim Arabs don't pay taxes ? Where do u get your info from?
15. Racist behavior
I'm sorry this happened to you. I guess there are racist people or establishments all over the world. Thank you for your service to the State of Israel. Please try to remember that not everyone is like this although that doesn't make your personal humiliation and lack of gratitude from the owners of these two clubs better...
16. I have no mixed feelings on this
A Druze who served his country proudly and well is denied entrance to a nightclub? Yes, I know that nightclubs are private enterprises and have the absolute right to determine who can and cannot be a patron.
Exclude Arabs until the cows go home. But not the Druze. They actually serve the State of Israel. Unlike the Arabs who, for the most part, do not.
The fact that this Druze man was in the company of Jewish Israelis should have been a great big clue.
Sarah B ,
U.S.A. / Israel
17. To: No. 10
Have you ever been to Israel even once in your sordid, pathetic life? Don't you think you should visit just at least once before issuing forth with blanket statements?
And why don't you -- once -- research the quantity of Arab violence visited against Jewish Israelis and then ask yourself why -- oh why -- do so many Israelis dislike Arabs?
Druze do not consider themselves Arabs, by the way. But they do -- like all Arabs -- consider Jewish women to be fair game. Do you consider that to be "equality" under your narrow-minded, racist point of view, Idiotann?
Sarah B ,
U.S.A. / Israel
18. Disgusted with these racists
one, some Jews are racists but not every Jew is racist; and
two, other races can be racists too. For example, i met some Arabs and some Ethiopians who look down on Asians.
Discrimination is in human's lower nature; only some have overcome it and know how to be gracious to other races.
19. Wake up Sarah B #17
On what planet are you living? I know dozens of good-looking and versatile Jewish males who consider non-Jewish females as being "fair game" - both for short term relationships and for serious commitments. Do you want restrictions on that in all countries accept in Israel? "In this country it is prohibited for Jewish Males to mix with Non-Jewish females" - wow what a statement on Shoah Remembrence Day !
20. #17: Sarah I have been in Israel and you are pathetic
If you live in Israel, if you have been to Israel and you deny The Jewish State, a great majority of Israelis (not all of course) are racists and see Palestinians/Arabs as sub-human. And you blatant comments denying this and how you describe Palestinians is a proof of this, once again. You should know better than LIE about the reality while you KNOW what is going on. How very un-Jewish of you!
21. An exceedingly valid point, #11
When was the last time you were in the States?
Come to Chicago, son, and I'll show you any no. of bars/clubs where one had damn well better be an acceptable race & ethnicity to the management and clientele.
I've found all racial & ethnic groups to be operating this same game over the years.
Unfortunate, but just the way it is.
The soldier plays the mortally offended hypocrite by holding the Jewish club/community to a much higher standard than he would ever dare apply to his own fellow Druze.
He plays the double standard.
Pardon for cutting through all the snorting outrage, but it has to be done now & again to remind folk that they have to deal with the world as it really is, not as they would like it to be.
22. Rani, you're the good-guy here.
The idiot club owners need to be sued. The fact that your Jewish friends left with you is what's important.
23. Follow up
i hope that Rani Tarif and his friends follow up on this and lay charges of discrimination against the clubs with the police.
This is illegal, racist and disgusting.
A Jerusalemite ,
24. Not fair!
He should be given VIP access to any club.
25. It is a failing that needs to be corrected
Israel is a great country. It is not a racist country despite being at war its entire existence and all of the problems we have with the Arabs. Every Druze I have ever met has been a good person and loyal to the country.There are many who do not know how to distinguish between a Druze and an arab. What happened here is not racism so much as ignorance. The club and the selector need to address this. They need to apologize and to change their policies. If not, they need to be fined and maybe go out of business. Yes, the druze deserve our repsect just as any other citizen. This was a failing that needs to be corrected.
26. To Cameron #21
Reply to first question: Two years ago. I frequently go to NY, where my brother lives.
Further: You are putting a collective guilt on this guys shoulders. HE is not responsible, ONE SINGLE IOTA for what are the standards amongst other Druze, or his Dad´s standards, or his Cousins or whoever else´s in his ethnical community. Today is Shoah Remembrence Day - a Day in which Collective Guilt is a big No-No - but of course that didn´t pass your mind....eh? Furthermore, my question to you: When did YOU risk your life for Israel last time?
27. To: No. 19
Oh, please. You are dumber than dishwater. What do you think would happen to a Jewish male in Israel that tries to date an Arab -- and even a Druze -- girl?
Better yet -- what would happen to the Arab -- or Druze -- girl?
My fourteen year old daughter was accosted by two Arab men while doing nothing more than shopping in central Tel Aviv! If she did not have the good sense to immediately duck into a store and call home, who knows what would have happened! Their women are off limits, but ours are not? Is that what you are really saying here, Alex?
Sarah B ,
U.S.A. / Israel
28. Reply to the Dishwasher #27
As you overwhelmingly experience strong pleasure in ad Hominem attacks all over YNET, day after day, I respond the same way (even if it is not climactic to me). The whole question boils down to following - you do not accept people of different ethnical and religious background to mix, socialize and have any dealings with each other. What do we call that kind of concept...??? Any idea - just say the first word that reaches your overheated mind
29. I'd date him...he looks handsome and well built!
30. Honor killings
I have great respect for most things in the Druze community. They are educating their people, mainly their men. They contribute in every way to Israeli society. Because of their contributions to the defense of Israel, honor killings of Druze women are glossed over by the press and the government. When their sisters and daughters are free to mix with Jewish men if they want to. I will welcome every Druze man into night clubs.
I doubt that this discriminatory policy was made at such a level though. I suspect that it was simple racism. Sorry that the world is not black and white.