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Time has come for 2 states
Gilead Sher
Published: 29.01.13, 11:09
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31. 2 states with land swaps and oath of loyalty
Alex   (01.29.13)
Is what all Israelis and Zionists should strive for.
32. San Remo
AL QUDS AL YAHUDI ,   QUDS HAKA ALYAHUD   (01.29.13)
Why the Israeli leaders are not reminding the Europeans & Obama & the whole world about San Remo Conference, League of Nations Mandate, & others.that the State of Israel and 100% Jewish Land.
33. Two States? Are you crazy?
Daud Maher ,   Beirut Lebanon   (01.29.13)
Who said Palestinians want their State? Some crazy leaders did so and the world believed.. No way, we want to become Israeli citizens. If there is a Palestinian State, people like me, whose father lost everything will never recover its properties again. There is no such thing as Palestinians. We are aboriginals that want to be respected like the natives in America or the Aborigines in Australia or Maoris. Just give us our political rights. We even could vote for Jewish candidates and sing your anthem for some years, but lets us enjoy your social security system, your great nightlife, your technologies. We are aboriginals and have nothing to do with Jordan, Timbuctu or Papua. We want to be Israelis, like those from Nazareh are. Please, think about the risk of a Palestinian State besides Israel. Remember Gaza. After statehood Palestine will be in conditions to choose political alliances to survive. Who will they choose? The USA, the UK? NO, they will pick those who were always by their cause, like Iran. Jews will be in constant danger. The right wing is completely right. Like said one right member of your Parliament, it is better to give full rights to all Arabs of the West Bank than allow them to be independent. And besides, i love the Hebrew langague... How do you say thank you in Hebrew?
34. To #18 - Ferdinand , Israel & France
Abu Yussef al Yahudi ,   Bue_Aires-Argentina   (01.29.13)
After years of deep thinking, and interchange of ideas between I and my Jewish brothers here in the Galuth in Latin-America, regarding the problem of the territories taken by Israel in the 1967 war, we have arrived at the same vision of the problem as Gileas Sher, and also with the statements that you have written. We, Jews, under our Torah teachings, CAN NOT, I repeat "ad nauseum", CAN NEITHER murder several Millions of Palestine people, NOR expulse them from the West Bank, where they are living. The last option wont´t be good for both people (I mean the Expulsion). In our journey here in the Earth, we all, including Jews and Goyim, are Human Beings created ans protected by G-d, Baruj Hu u Baruj Shemo. Ergo, to mantain Israel as a Jewish and Democratic State, the Jewish People of Israel needs a "Secession" from the Arab People in the West Bank, be his name "Palestine", "Arabestine", "Cisjordan" etc. or whatever name you like to call it. In conclusion, I strongly agree with your post, despite the overwhelming proportion of Posts that are against the ideas of Gileas Sher . Kol Hakavod to you, and thanks for your clear understanding of this hard problem.. AM ISRAEL CHAI
35. Denial, Anger, Bargaining, Depression, Acceptance of 1 State
Steve Benassi ,   Silver Bay, MN USA   (01.29.13)
36. Illusions
David ,   Jerusalem   (01.29.13)
With the entire ME boiling around us who in his right mind can even think about borders with the Palestinians. The Arab world is collapsing not because of lack of talks with PA. PA itself on verge of collapse come on world and lefties stop dreaming
37. Proposing to make old mistakes again
Ian ,   Newcastle upon Tyne   (01.29.13)
Gaza Strip withdrawal #2...didn't work,won't work. THREE CHEERS FOR ISRAEL!!!
38. #7 wissam
DavidR ,   USA   (01.29.13)
YOU ARE CORRECT! From the Arnon River to the Red Sea! Go back to Mt. Seir where you belong.
39. #33. Only really dumb Israelis strive for Two States.
Chaim ,   Israel   (01.29.13)
Any child who can read a map knows the Two State Final Solution would destroy Israel within a decade.
40. #18. Your post is full of defeatism and falsehoods.
Chaim ,   Israel   (01.29.13)
#18 Ferdinand. Your post is full of defeatism and falsehoods. 1. It is far better for Israel to face isolation than to commit suicide. Ceding Judea and Samaria is tantamoun to suicide, as any child who can read a map can see. 2. Isolation is temporary. Suicide is permanent. 3. Jews are a growing majority in Israel, including Judea and Samaria. Countless American and Israeli studies prove this. The Arab "population bomb" is a ludicrous politically motivated hoax.
41. Leftism = Defeatism
Brod ,   USA   (01.29.13)
Judea and Samaria-Land of Israel is Israel's Liberated Historic and Biblical Homeland. The folly of Leftism is Appeasement, Defeatism and Cowing. It is endangering Israel. Only fools would think that wolves can become sheeps. Israel should say NO to the Chamberlain pathway that led to war and destruction in Europe and the world in WWII.
42. sound and insightful Zionism
eliahu abraham ,   Jerusalem   (01.29.13)
43. 2 state???
Chuck ,   Rockford IL USA   (01.29.13)
Read your Torah. Book of Isaiah. Making peace didn't work 2700 years ago with their enemies and won't work now. How many more times does Israel have to repeat history before they finally wake up?
44. Read your Torah, book of Isaiah.
Chuck ,   Rockford IL USA   (01.29.13)
45. They should listen to you
Jimi ,   Palestine   (01.30.13)
One state for all is the destiny unless an immediate action by Israel is done. Time goes, and the 2 states issu is vanishing while palestinians are not leaving anywhere, and will not accept to continue securing israel for no return, they acepted the mission as a way for freedom and not endless occupation, so eventually 2 , 3 years you will find new direction of same land same vote same rights...ONE state and for sure NOT JEWISH... While things are not clear how it will be like when it happens ..but fir sure veryone will lose
46. #45 Jimi
Vlad   (01.30.13)
You're forgetting that "one state for all" will still be a Jewish state. The Jewish birthrate is rising, and the religious birthrate is already skyrocketing, as is immigration to Israel. Meanwhile, the Arab birthrate is shrinking, and Arab emigration is significant. Jews will be an 80% majority between the Jordan and Mediterranean by 2035. How's that for your one state?
47. Left Wing Mantra has memory like a Gold Fish
Chaim Ben Kahan ,   Efrat, Israel   (01.30.13)
Saying two state over and over with the enemies of Israel not wanting this is not productive or conducive to making peace. This writer is just regurgitating the same nonsense that has caused this conflict. Did unilateral withdrawal from Gaza insure peace? No, it did not, so why would this be different?
48. He is right, a Two state solution will lead to peace
Chaim Ben Kahan ,   Efrat, Israel   (01.30.13)
Two states for two people! All the Jews will live on the West Bank of the Jordan, and all Muslims will live on the East Bank of the Jordan. Two states for two people and recipe for a lasting peace. This way Israel will not have to rule over Arabs, and nor will Arabs terrorize Jews. Peace will be upon us and perhaps one day the two people can work together and make good neighbors.
49. Author is a visionary!! Brilliant!!!
Charles   (01.30.13)
Two states, why hasn't anyone thought of that before? So obvious and it was right in front of our faces but this guy cut through the crap and said what everyone was afraid to say - two states for two peoples! Peace is around the corner, it's exciting to watch events unfold!
50. Two state Truce
Zechariah   (01.30.13)
A truce for a few years is possible till the Palestinians demand right of return to Israel with compensation then the war is on again with catastrophic escalation.Autonomy with a flag and anthem could work under stringent security provision.
51. it is not about two states
Zsolt ,   Wanganui,NZ   (01.31.13)
Unfortunately the time has not come yet to set up two states, because the situation is not about two states but about the whole region, even beyond the region. What can Israel hope from a two-state solution until the much larger, stronger Arabic states, interest groups do not recognize Israel's right to exist, and are supported by the majority of the international community doing so? The issue cannot be solved in isolation, there needs to be a global, international settlement, somehow solving all, or at least most of the Middle Eastern issues. Until the region remains a flash-point, ready to explode any moment, no Israeli-Palestinian agreement would last. At this stage Israel needs to strengthen the national unity, solidarity, mutual guarantee inside Israel and around the worldwide Jewry to be best prepared for such hoped for global negotiations or self protection as a single, united nation.
52. #18 ferdinand
solomon ,   bklyn   (01.31.13)
With all due respect, your description of those you denigrate actually describes yourself. You are the one having no grasp of reality. The reality is that the Pals willl never agree to be demilitarized, even if that was the concept of Rabin. They will never accept a Jewish state, and withdrawing from the WB will be worse than withdrawing from Gaza. That didn’t turn out so well, did it? You should actually listen to Hamas, when they state unequivocally, that they want to destroy Israel and kill all the Jews. Yet you call anyone disagreeing with you an extremist. I call them realists.
53. #45 jimi
solomon ,   bklyn   (01.31.13)
You are not 'occupied'. You have your own government. You can leave via Egypt or Jordan. You say you will not accept a Jewish state. Yet Pals are leaving: Christians who have been pushed out by Muslims. You came from Syria, Iraq, etc. In 1948 you insisted not to be called Palestinians. At that time, if you said Palestinians you meant the Jews. Your leaders have admitted that "Palestinian" is a fake construct necessary for propaganda against Israel. You showed your true colors when Israel left Gaza. Too late. Sorry.
54. Chelmers?
michael Pielet ,   israel   (02.03.13)
Neither Sher or Ferdinand could be that stupid, dumb. The article is a purimspiel! Nobody in their right mind would cede Judea and Samaria to the terrorists and iran. Sher and Ferdinand are extremists but they are not that dumb.
55. Sher and Ferdinand
Leah G ,   Itamar   (02.06.13)
Ferdinand and Isabella? Our enemies aren't even focused on Yehudah and Shomron anymore but indeed Medinat Tel aviv as they call it. Do you honestly belive they care about your twisted liberal views?
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