When a Nation is Facing Existential Threaths,
a People must stand United.
Those Politicians who cant Unite with their National Brothers and Sisters,
but Strain at gnats but swallow Camels,
are Blind leaders of Blinds,
and should be leaved behind,
Many are called but fewer are chosen for the Tasks ahead,
because the Word of HASHEM must and will come to fullfillment.
3. Social burden versus political process.Umm...
Netanyahu wants to jump the social burden in Benett and the "political process"in the haredim and his sidekick Lapid.
PM to Lapid:"we need the haredim for the political process"
Netanyahu wants perhaps to blur Benett´s strong political positions about "piece process" by putting him in charge of the "distribuition of the burden"part of his sidekick Lapid´s plattform and keep in his own hands and Livni´s and Lapid´s the deadly "piece" political process.
In other words,Benett and haredim will be Netanyahu/Lapid´s servants, in a hijacked coalision process, in different positions,being haredim, the most easily driven party ,as they have already proven to be,for the deadly political process,and Benett for the distribution of the burden.
Haredim have only one way to be redeemed in the face of Israel´s public and the way is them to turn into TRULY G-D FEARING PEOPLE,FOLLOWING TORAH ,otherwise they are DOOMED!
I hope they understand that from now and participate in the next Knesset as so .
Enough of cheap corruption!
Shas can join the government if they agree that the Haredim will do some sort of service, this means that they can do National Service by helping in hospitals, old age homes and alike.
5. Message to Yair Lapid
Yair, I have to apologise to you.
My original intention was indeed to vote for you. Then, I read on Ynet that you had said you would join Bibi regardless. This scared me, so I moved to Shelly as my anti-Bibi vote.
After the election, I saw you resolute in your no-Shas stance and recognition that Naftali Bennet is the other half of the future of Israeli politics.
This was what I wanted to hear!!
Now, its crunch time. Please, please dont drink the Bibi KoolAid.
The majority of the country is counting on you!
6. to #1
I pray Lapid and Bennet will not be moved by the shrill rhetoric, contrived spins, threats and every other shtick that Bibi and Liberman are throwing at them. Bibi is, as #1 put it, a political prostitute paying mafia's protection monies to the haredim.
I had voted for Bibi/Liberman figuring that although surely weakened they would still be needed. I was delusional - and it won't happen again.
7. No representation w/out taxation
You pay you play
8. Haridim in the government
The Haridi parties are a major drain on the economy the high cost of their education programs, the cost of the dole to the vast majority of the Haridim who do not work the unfair burden on the rest of society to fulfill military obligations to say nothing of their long time control of the exchequer. Not to mention the restrictive clauses in their coalition agreements that prevents modernization of our government. For Israel to truly enter the 21st century we need a government sans Haridim
Norman Gellman ,
9. Progress is not possible without...
change,and those who cannot change their mind,cannot change ANYTHING
11. @9 Try your own medicine for a change
We voted for change
Israeili Jew ,
12. Haredim Should Not Govern
The Haredim should not be invited to join a coalition, their interests are too narrow. Israel finally has the chance for a more stable government, don't blow it.
13. 11 Change is not a one way street.
14. Unity ... for War
15. Listen to the people!
Does Netanyahu not bother to read the tens of thousands of comments all stating, unequivocally, that the majority of this country is sick and tired of haredi extortion and sense of entitlement. Is he in total denial that if it weren't for his unholy alliance with Lieberman, he wouldn't even be heading a coalition. No Shas!!!!
16. If Moses ,and Joshua could be brought fwd in time.....
and wanted to be in the Government ...would they be allowed by the current goverment?
Galut ia ,
17. I left Israel and shall not return
until religion and state are separated.
I left Israel because of the Haredim and not because of military service and not because of cost of living. I left with a heavy heart because it is my home and my country that I love but these strange people have been allowed to highjack it. I hope that they can produce from among them good military officers and fighter pilots and tank commanders and perhaps a Chief of Staff or Mossad chief because soon there will be nobody left in the country but them. This is very sad, a very sad end to the dream.
18. #11 Ora
Change IS a one way street, sweetie . It means "moving forward". But your Haredim have not moved out of the ghetto "shtetl" since the late Middle Ages.
19. #17, Me too.
20. Nr 17. You will come back !.
HASHEM will se to it !.
Arn.Sweden . ,
21. #16 Moses & Joshua…
My thought is that they'd kick Haredim backsides OUT of Israel as a matter of fact.
If we want to integrate the Haredim, we have to take them back to childhood: they Ned to build things, plant things, clean up things… they are socially and intellectually retarded. It will be SOME TIME before they will develop a sense if being proud of hands-on accomplishment and of what they have made. Only then can we teach them to defend it. Small teams on public works projects as a requirement will get thei heads in the right space eventually and put a cognitive end to their sense of privilege and entitlement. It must be done with a good attitude and a spirit of inclusiveness or they'll whine like spoiled brats that they're being "punished." Graduating from public works and improvement projects into military service will at some point become of keen interest to them. As one commenter put it : "you pay, you play…"
22. #16 - you've presented an ex falso quodlibet
Paqid Yirmeyahu ,
23. #17 and Micheal in California
I ahve a kid who wears payios and a beard.
He is a gunner on a 65T Merkava.
So please take your BS and stuff it.
I am the one who doesnt sleep at night.
24. To nr 17 - We need a constitution
We need a secular Israeli/Jewish (Israeli/Jewish in an ethnic/national sense - not in a religious sense) Constitution that preserves, protects and maintains Israel as a Jewish/Israeli/Israelite/Hebrew/Judean nation state - the national homeland of the Jewish people in the ancient land of Israel, where the Jewishness/Israeliness of the country will be based on demographic majority and state authorities, an official language, state symbols, flag, national anthem and religion that express the national sentiments of the Jewish people. And Judaism should absolutely be preserved as our state religion since Judaism is something we should be proud of and is a part of our heritage and history. But, the Constitution should also guarantee democracy and individual rights and liberties. I think we need a clause in that Constitution which says that Judaism is maintained, preserved and protected as our state religion but Judaism will neither be enforced nor imposed by any state authority, municipality, NGO or private individual. And this clause should guarantee the right to have civil marriage in Israel without the interference of the Haredim.
The Constitution should protect Israel as a Jewish nation state in a national, ethnic, cultural, political, legal, demographic and religious sense, but the adherence to Judaism/religious beliefs and practices should be optional - not enforced. And that should include the rigth of every Jew/Israeli to determine exactly to what extent -if any, he/she wants to adhere to Judaism.
The recipe that I've put forward benefits both the religious and the secular people and will not compromise neither about Israel's state religion - Judaism, and our democratic rights. Nobody says that a dozen European nation states need to compromise between their national indentities and their democratic systems.
Tel Aviv, Israel
25. 18 Michael The ghetto has a ...
hothouse effect which produces a great culture.
The day these people join the modern world ,they apply their Gemara brains to increase creativity in whatever field they are.
The first Israeli pioneers were religious Jews , their children or grand-children.
The Haredim are the roots of the Jewish people.
Plants without roots don t last very long.
Israel NEEDS the Haredim.
26. #24, Israeli constitution will not need a Houdini
You are twisting and turning even more than Houdini did and like him you will be crushed. Religion will either be separated or it will destroy you. Study the history of writing the U.S. constitution, the example of it will interest you. The writers of the U.S. constitution separated religion from the state first, and then wrote the constitution. And you cannot write a more equitable and fair constitution than the U.S. constitution is, the eternal light to all the Jews.
27. 23 Al Don t you have 2 kids in IDF ?
28. 17 Jonathan YOU LOSE !
29. Ora..my older one is out of the IDF working and paying taxes
Oh by the way...he is a frummie..
30. 29 Al You sound very proud of your
frummie boys who are "zu G-TT and zu lat". AND RIGHT YOU ARE.
May G-D bless them.