Opinion  Ron Ben-Yishai
Many questions remain unanswered
Ron Ben-Yishai
Published: 14.02.13, 09:45
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1. Prisoner "X"
Mordechai ,   Beit Shemesh   (02.14.13)
Unsubstantiated twaddle from someone who should know better. Everything is supposition so having selected three points from a considerable number that could have equal validity it is subjective and therefore totally irrelevant. Most countries have banning orders for national security and all have checks and balances. For instance the UK with it's "D" notice and the Official Secrets Act. You are just nosy and want to make money by getting a scoop even it endangers the country.
2. Not Sure
Larry ,   Margaliot, Israel   (02.14.13)
First, it's important to discover if he committed suicide, and if so, under what conditions of stress and depression. Second, was the secret imprisonment necessary or was this part of covering up some bungled operation? If he was lured into intelligence, or if he was discarded afterwards, then surely it's more than just 'let's look at it a little and move on.' Holding a prisoner anonymously, even if he committed treason ('if') is a big stretch. The guy was an Israeli citizen, not an Aussie who lived here for a bit..he was an Israeli.
3. What value is a young man's life
lydia ,   Brisbane   (02.14.13)
As long as the land thieves and mass murderers move on and live to fight another day to carry on their lawlessness, illegal occupation, trials by missiles etc. in violation of some 250UN res. What Ben Zygier/Alon went through is enough to make any sane person crazy. The multiple identities, allegiances to multiple homelands ie Israel and est. Europe, the fake existence of Israel based on a sky god and the fact of Israel unilateral decl. ie UN181 is the burden every Israeli must carry.
4. #3
Keren ,   IL-BR   (02.14.13)
Why would be Israel´s existence a fake one and a "Palestinian"one legitimate? Can you answer? To be fake,Lydia,is to use "Palestine" as a cover for ARAB GRABBING! Isn´t that enough to have GRABBED virtually the whole ME? Do you still want Africa,Europe,Australia AND Israel?? Don´t you think that your GREEDNESS boards a grave psycho pathology? You ,and yours,are INSANE,Lydia!
5. The tools don't care
esse ,   Israel   (02.14.13)
If other articles on this are any indication, then the responses to this piece will be unconditional support by the talkbacker tools of the Israeli government no matter what it does. In the past, other governments in other parts of the world have had the same kind of unconditional support of their people: for example, Germany during the 1930s and 1940s. It's our chronic inferiority complex that drives us to defend Israel no matter what. Maybe one day we'll have a nation that we're so proud about that we will be able to take criticism. The nuance of the former statement will obviously go over the heads of the majority of talkbackers (like Chaim, for example.) So it goes.
6. My # 4 "boards" meant to be "borders on".
Keren ,   IL-BR   (02.14.13)
7. you are wrong. the press has no special over arching right.
ralph   (02.14.13)
its arrogance in fact can blind it and endanger the state. so get of your high horse. if there is any one i do not trust it is the press,. in fact it often has more of an axe to grind then politicians who at least lie honestly.
8. And yet an answer to the insanes
Keren ,   IL-BR   (02.14.13)
Hear,Lydia,do you know one of Pope´s statements justifying his renunciation? It is that he does not agree about the using of G-d´s name for empowerment of men.And that´s EXACTLY what YOUR masters do ! Your religion -Islamism-is used as an ABOMINATION towards Men and G-d!
9. u are so wrong if israel has no rights no other country has
ralph   (02.14.13)
10. since you support 7th century arab murdering land grab you
ralph   (02.14.13)
must also take responsibility for all the murder, rape and genocide they have perpetuated in egypt, spain, israel, etc etc. you are a murder by your choice of sides. you are immoral and gave up all rights to speak with any moral authority.
11. #3 -Lydia -
Anna ,   Montreal, Canada   (02.14.13)
Australia was built by convicts and criminals. Does it mean this burden every Australian must carry? Who gave you the right to deny other people rights to their believes? By the way, Israel was created by UN. But it was built by the free will of the Jewish people. This 'fake existence" became an unprecedented asset to humanity in all forms in science, medicine, agriculture, modern technology. Among Jews there were Moses, Jesus, Newton, Einstein, Freud, etc.. Not all of them where religious or followed religious faith of their parents. Never the less Hitler thought it's his right to annihilate Jewish nation. You eager to accuse and to sacrifice all the Israelis including without any connection to the article people carrying European passports and maybe not Israelis but Jews in all in your context. How come your vision is different from Hitler's? I don't have any sympathy to your cause.
12. If this was the only thing he didn't understand we could
(02.14.13)
live with it. The guy understands his seat not much more.
13. press in Israel are "useful fools
jorge   (02.14.13)
For Israel's enemies, articles are writen by self righteous a..holes that do not measure the damage brought on Israel as a whole with their irresponsabily
14. prisoner x
jacques ,   nsw   (02.15.13)
Hi linda you should as a queeslander stick to your xxxx!
15. Why isn't there an answer from the PM?
Michael ,   California, USA   (02.16.13)
The statement in this article is correct: what we know so far "indicate a basic violation of human rights and proper legal proceedings on the part of the Prime Minister's Office." This is an accusation which requires a formal clarification, an answer from the highest office in Israel.
16. There was no land for a people with no land
lydia ,   Brisbane   (02.17.13)
The Palestinians were already living on their land and the difference between Australia and Israel is that Australia is not in violation of t 250UN resolutions and no horde of est. Euro migrants armed with malice and weapons attack, harass and kill the indigenous civilians. Australian service men do not corral nor strafe the indigenous population with gunfire, cluster bombs du and wp "Among Jew there were Moses, Jesus..." We mustn't forget the Tooth Fairy, the Easter Bunny and Santa Clause. Sure you don't want to add the Hobbits?
17. I'm glad to see anti-semitic crap
pinchas ,   boston   (02.17.13)
from intellectual perverts like Lydia. It shows that we Jews have real enemies out there. My reaction, and hopefully that of other Jews? See these antagonists like resistance training in a gym, i.e., push back harder, and thus they can only make us stronger and tougher, not weaker. ( The other reaction, more typically Jewish years ago, was to say, oy vey, we must be baaddd and guilty, the little goy from Brisbane doesn't like us.) As for the story about Ben Alon, Prisoner X: We're in the dark, but personally I feel sorrow and great empathy for him and his family. The thing that's clearest to me is the high probability that his being in solitary confinement for more than six months drove him to take his life. Is that not the worst nightmare a young handsome idealistic lad who makes aliyah, volunteers for the Mosad might have-- that he's thrown into a modern dungeon in his yearned for homeland and left to rot, alone?? I hope and pray that any coldblooded and indifferent "officials" in this case, and I am sure there are some, are fully exposed and shamed!
18. 17 What homeland stuck "X" in Israel Abu Graib?
lydia ,   Brisbane   (02.17.13)
Hope and pray sensible parents stop inflicting the hasbara nonsense on their idealist off spring. Let the old codgers go defend their land thievery and mass murders by themselves. They made their bed let them lay in it. There was 'no land for a people for a people without land' and Israels is in flagrant violation of numerous Int. Laws in occupying Palestinian land OUTSIDE Israels unilaterally declared borders UN181 and 300mil justifiable angry Muslims aren't going anywhere.
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