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Their blood has been let
Bambi Sheleg
Published: 09.03.13, 11:48
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1. There's no comparison!!!
Steven Branson ,   USA   (03.09.13)
What the Muslims have done over the many years to Jews is far worse than the isolated incidences proffered in this stupid article! Another non-news-worthy piece of trash by YNET; you-all clowns should be ashamed of yourselves for printing this drivel! With all that said, the reason for Israel's current moral (malaise) decline is because of a mostly secular, godless society that has forgotten God. This fight is a spiritual fight for the Jewish soul; at present they're losing! Until its godless leaders' decide to defend God's Word and take all the land bequeathed them in the Abrahamic Covenant, this ages-old fight between Isaac/Ishmael & Jacob/Esau will continue to burn until the Jewish Messiah (Jesus Christ) returns at his 2nd-Coming! God bless Israel...and, HIS Jerusalem!!! Christian Zionist
2. In the other way it would be a terrorism
Albrecht   (03.09.13)
In the other way (if the Jews would be attacked and lynched by the Arabs) it would be a "terrorism".
3. Article author lacks a sense of proportion
Joe ,   Israel   (03.09.13)
You quoted 2 (TWO!) cases of racist attacks in a population of nearly 7,000,000 (7 Million). That a 2.85^(-7) (two point eighty five to the negative seventh power), do you realize how ridiculous this is? You are calling an entire state's values a failure bases on two bad apple cases, it's insane. Man, if you ever did an article on driving safety, you would say the entire modern transportation system is a deathtrap and that people should not even lean out of their windows at home or they will die. You really need to try harder to find something to be sensational about and sell yourself as a writer.
4. Always was going to happen
Sarah B ,   Tel Aviv/London   (03.09.13)
when our political leaders continually told the electorate that the Jews were better than anybody else. The Arabs are our untermenschen, they even have less rights in law. We have become Germany in 1933
5. Country without direction.
Michael ,   California, USA   (03.09.13)
1. Unclear "who is a Jew"; 2. The only goal is "survival"; 3. Everybody's goal is to leave, to "travel"; 4. Everything is for sale after the Ministerial jobs; 5. No declaration of Civil Rights, no Constitution written; 6. Divided rules between civil and religious "rights" and divided courts. and so on, and so on, and so on.
6. # 1
Can   (03.09.13)
Airport in Jerusalem for the Messiah to land His aircraft. Whoever said he will not come in the fresh is antichrist.
7. Our claim
Michael ,   Haifa   (03.09.13)
":We are a light to the nations"
8. Well Spoken Bambi Sheleg!
World Citizen ,   the world   (03.09.13)
Violence by either faction is not the answer.
9. Jewish condoned racism must end
Mark ,   Cleveland USA   (03.09.13)
Teachers and rabbis must teach tolerance and peace if we hope to achieve peace. Traditional Orthodox Judaism encourages mistrust, fear and even hatred of non Jews. Old ways need to be rejected and replaced with more productive, just ways. We are not a perfect people and need to incoporate humility.
10. Innocent reading of news or propaganda?
Noam Polski ,   Tel Aviv, Israel   (03.09.13)
Author either read the 1st news which were published or use this cases to support one of the conflict sides. At least in two of the cases the author mentions the Arabs started the attack and than were pictured in defending positions by photographers holding pro-palestinian positions (which by chance were exposed later). Except one or two other cases the rest have controversial versions of those who started brutal attack but all of them are discussed in court.
11. This is exactly what I think, thank you Bambi Sheleg
Yossef   (03.09.13)
I could not have said that better.
12. #4 What sort of values were taught
Raphael ,   Netanya   (03.09.13)
To the authors of the lynching of Arie Karp? or of the stone throwers on a daily basis at the Har Zeitim graveyard? Or the authors of "nationally motivated rapes" in Galilee? Or the racial riot against sudanese migrants in Kafr Manda? Or the authors of the Fogel family slaughter?
13. Joe # 3
A Jerusalemite ,   Jerusalem, Israel   (03.09.13)
Reread the article. There are a number of cases listed. In any case we all know that it is happening daily right now, so no one is basing any decisions on just 2 cases.
14. How strange the author fails to mention ONE attack on Jews..
BUILD BABY BUILD ,   United States   (03.09.13)
and wonders WHy Israeli's respond in kind. ? ( Idiot d'jour ) No mention of the Fogle family massacre or the countless pal and arab attacks on Israeli's on buses and in cafes. One suggestion, the pals can move back to whatever Muslim hell hole they hail from, certainly NOT israel. The pals will move one way or another, today, tomorrow or whenever Israel's has enough of this endless pal/ terrorist shit.
15. Behaviour.
A Jerusalemite ,   Jerusalem, Israel   (03.09.13)
Bambi Sheleg (Ow wow -does that ever sound like an alias!) is right. The problem here is from the top down. It is supposedly youngsters, teens that are attacking Arabs for no reason. So the problem lies with their mentors. Check out their teachers, their rabbis and their parents to find the source of this behaviour. Check out the statements of high government officials and important rabbis to find the source of the mentors behaviour. We have the laws - we must implement them!
16. We are Jews ..... we are not angels
Arnold ,   Canada   (03.09.13)
It is the law of the state which is needed to enforce equal rights to one and all. The Israeli courts need to get on board.
17. Get a Clue, only "five integrated schools in Israel"
Steve Benassi ,   Silver Bay, MN USA   (03.09.13)
18. 'Their blood has been let'
Natalie Wood ,   Karmiel, Israel   (03.09.13)
Very gravely, I must say, "I couldn't put it better myself".
19. #1, #2, #3, #10, #12 - Ah, so we should be like them?
solomon ,   bklyn   (03.09.13)
If so, we’ll have no grounds to complain about ‘them’. And no right to call ourselves a ‘light among the nations’. You seem to be those of whom the author writes. #1- First you call the article ‘drivel’, then you speak of Israel’s moral malaise. It seems therefore that the article is not drivel, but “merely” something too uncomfortable for you to face.
20. As a strong supporter of Israel
David Israel ,   New York, USA   (03.09.13)
As an American Jew and strong supporter of the state of Israel I expect that the perpetrators of this awful crime will be quickly brought to justice and punished. These violent acts against our Arab citizens and neighbors could not be justified. Even if one of them acted violently it is not up to citizens to punish. This is why we have a state, so that law and order is followed and justice is applied to all equally. When Israeli Jews act like that they only harm the Jewish cause.
21. #5 Then why are so many illegals entering Israel if it's
BUILD BABY BUILD ,   United States   (03.09.13)
sooooo bad? Because their fellow Muslim nations are murdering them and other Muslims at will, all day, every day and twice as many on Fridays. That's why, even the pals don't want to leave Israel's preferable nation... Lying bastards that they are.... Soon, they wont have a choice, better yet while the getting's good.
22. # 5 More people leaving Califonicate than any other
BUILD BABY BUILD ,   United States   (03.09.13)
state.. Must be all the vagrants leaving from chaos and illegals. And so on, and o on, and so on. So, when's your flight? Mexico? S. America? Egypt? Lebanon? Gaza??
23. Mark Cleveland
BUILD BABY BUILD ,   United States   (03.09.13)
The "old ways' would have stoned every pal that remains in Israel. Be thankful Jews are taking longer to evict you pricks or, dead you'd be and buried with the same rocks used to kill you. Sound good to you? It does to me. p.s. Cleveland sux so do you.
24. Jewish values are followed
Just an observation   (03.09.13)
The basic tenets of judaism, torah & talmud to kill, enslave and control non-jews.
25. Oh, for pity's sake!
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (03.09.13)
Doesn't the author take proportion into account? If the Arabs were to leave off violent attacks, their problems would end in an instant. However -- let's get back to proportion. How many sleeping Arab family of five (including three children, one an infant) have had their throats slit? How many Jews have suicide bombed Arab buses? Nightclubs? Restaurants?" The author is a fool. Completely fails to point out the fact that it is the ersatz "Palestinians" who are the protagonists. If they leave us alone, all will be well. If they do NOT leave us alone ... well, what right do they have to expect that the Jewish people will not fight back? We're no longer their dhimmis, understand? If a Nobel Prize category in Endless Whining is ever established, the ersatz "Palestinians" are sure to win.
26. How do you feel when you read similar news from Europe about
leo ,   usa   (03.09.13)
Jews being attacked. . I do not want an Arab to be assulted for being an Arab anymore than I want a Jew to be assulted for being a Jews. . Even 2 cases out 5M (not 7M) are 2 cases too many. . We are Jews, we must not do this kind of thing.
27.  some facts
Hasman ,   Jerusalem   (03.09.13)
One must not forget that it was Arabs and Moslems who let the Jews back in Jerusalem and the land in 638 ce after the period, in Ottoman period when they were persecuted by Europe. Human values are human values and racism should be condemned regardless
28. One of the special things about Judaism...
Rob ,   Orangevale USA   (03.09.13)
is self reflection. It is what is supposed to happen when faced by moral dilemmas. Because Jews have been so maligned, abused, and all the rest, reflection can go two ways. The way of the oppressed, or the way of the oppressor. There is much room for self reflection in matters such as these. It is heartening to see it, even in these wretched Talk-backs. In my heart I know there are people in every society that basically want revenge for past wrongs and make no religious or societal distinction when applying their brand of pay-back, but the rest of society sees it for what it is, blatant unlawful violence, the kind always perpetrated upon you. It's wrong when it comes your way, and it's wrong when it goes the other way as well. It is understandable, but it is also imperative that it be avoided. War of course is different, but this is a social issue. There IS a difference between the rule of law and vigilantism. Law, or anarchy? Which one do you want? In Israel, the answer is simple. Be better. The law will take it's course, and we shall see the outcome. Shalom Israel, Rob
29. Enforcing political, social co-existence
PaulD ,   Jerusalem   (03.09.13)
with a population historically hostile to anything but 'enslaved Jews', who they can torment at will, is what one can and should expect. It has nothing to do with failed morals, standards of behavior, or whatever invented terminology the author chooses to condemn with. Unless Jews are subservient to Arabs their entire existence is placed in turmoil, which is why there are as many terrorist organization formed to oppose Jewish independence, as there are Jews in the world. Would the author suggest that Jews get their throats slashed and never respond. Is that a higher standard of morality?
30. #24 just an observation...from a blind man
solomon ,   bklyn   (03.09.13)
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