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Their blood has been let
Bambi Sheleg
Published: 09.03.13, 11:48
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31. To # 9
Stan ,   Israel   (03.09.13)
Thank you Mark for your words of wisdom!
32. To # 3 Actually there were four
Stan ,   Israel   (03.09.13)
attacks in the past week. (three mentioned) and two women teachers, one Jewish and one Arab who were travelling in the Jewish teacher's car. SO YOU SAY WHAT'S ALL THE FUSS. So why do so many Jews make so much fuss when One American says just once "Jewish Lobby" instead of "Israel Lobby" All of you who IGNORE or justify Jewish Racism should be ashamed of yourselves.
33. #25 The values of Sarah B
Michael ,   Haifa   (03.09.13)
If there was a Nobel Prize for hatred and xenophobia, you would be serious candidate for it. Your views give off a stench of undiluted maliciousness.
34. Arab on Jewish Violence
Bill Stein ,   USA   (03.09.13)
What about Arab on Jewish Violence or does the author have selected memory
35. #12 Raphael
Sarah B ,   Tel Aviv/London   (03.09.13)
You are excusing our treatment of non jewish Israeli citizens by pointing and saying 'So what they behave in a worse fashion' You cannot justify the unjustifiable by comparing them with other criminal acts and shrugging your shoulders. Do you really want your moral core to be the same as someone who straps a bomb to themselves and gets on a bus? You really truly and honestly think that will lead to a better Israel?
36. #25 'Sarah B'
Sarah B ,   Tel Aviv/London   (03.09.13)
You cannot justify one act of violence by saying that it is alright because they do worse things. You either condemn all acts of violence or you accept that Israel has no rule of law. Two wrongs does not make a right
37. To #19 Solomon (you have lost your wisdom)!
Jake Stone ,   USA   (03.09.13)
Apparently, you are uncomfortable with the truth! #1 was right about the spiritual malaise, blindness of God's chosen people. You should read the Exodus story, but since you're one of those who #1 speaks of, you probably wouldn't get it, being you're a godless heathen yourself. You're right, Israel should be light unto the nations, but since they failed two-thousand years ago, we true children of Abraham (the body of Christ made-up of Jew and Gentile) has taken the cause of being the light-bearers' of God's truth: justification by faith through faith in God's grace found only through his only Son, Jesus Christ! The "...time of Jacob's trouble..." is coming! Then, a small remnant, as promised to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, will be saved by God's grace and mercy; and, sadly, 2/3 of all Jews will die in another great holocaust. In essence, the Jews weren't solely responsible for Jesus' death; we ALL were...our sins nailed Christ to the Cross-of-Calvary; he willingly allowed himself to be led as the ultimate sacrificial lamb to the slaughter. Where there is no shedding of blood...there is no remission of sin. Jesus was born to die! As Abraham offered Isaac; God stayed his hand because He would one-day offer His own Son. Most Jews are lost because their Rabbis' have hid the truth from them. It would take days to explain the theology; your rabbis' are blind, lost spiritual men. Find a Jew who has been saved, and let them explain the way of salvation. God bless Israel; praying for the peace of Jerusalem!!! Christian Zionist
38. Hey, #24, how did that work out so far.
leo ,   usa   (03.09.13)
39. author's unrealistic dream
Larry ,   Los Angeles   (03.09.13)
The Israeli public is not a homogeneous group and even national groups that have a more homogeneous blend, like France and England, still have individuals who act against the popular value system. In general, considering the vast differences in our Israeli population, they behave extremely well. What should be pointed out is that the Israeli value system has not been accepted at all by our Arab 'friends' in the West Bank. This is a total failure on the part of the Israeli government to even try to give over democratic principles to them.
40. Send them to Golan Heights
Zechariah   (03.09.13)
These perpetrators ought be arrested and incarcerated or have the choice to serve in the Golan heights or northern Israeli border .
41. #29 PaulD
Sarah B ,   Tel Aviv/London   (03.09.13)
We are not talking self defence we are talking criminal assault. I expect your silence when French Jewish schoolchildren are shot dead in Tolouse as the shooter is merely following your own code of conduct when Jews kill and assault arabs. You cannot justify the unjustifiable and then scream not fair when the boot is on the other foot. Notwithstanding the fact that two wrongs do not make a right
42. Hey, Bambi...watch-out!
Jack B. ,   USA   (03.09.13)
The Muslims' think it's deer season! But, seriously, are you kidding me? Are you that ignorant? There's your beautiful, liberal mind at work processing and producing nothing of any value. Oh, gee...I can't wait until you enlighten us with more of your nonsensical drivel (SARCASM!). Do us all a favor: DON'T!!!!!!!!!
43. The original sin is older
Walter ,   Germany   (03.09.13)
The original sin was that Yigal Amir was not hanged for treason like the dog he is. The message was clear: The right wing can do whatever it wants to do.
44. # 24
Jason, Ph.D. ,   Charlotte   (03.09.13)
That is a complete and utter lie. You obviously do not a thing about Judaism.
45. LMAO @all the critics clearly they don't know who Ms. Sheleg
Israel ,   Israel   (03.09.13)
is and what her political views are. Number 1 is particularly amusing in his stupidity!
46. what is all this about being better than everyone else?
Bill   (03.09.13)
Jews were at the forefront of the horrors and massacres inflicted on Russians and Ukrainians and other East Europeans under communism. If Jews think they are ''better'' in some way than gentiles it is because they gloss over parts of history which present Jews in a bad light. And yes before you say it... ''those Jews were not real Jews'' .... in which case half the Jews in Israel aren't ''real'' Jews either.
47. # 44..Please explain..Ereget Raschi Erod. 22 30
Edithann ,   USA   (03.09.13)
and why the best parts of Talmud teachings about non Jews are never quoted or shared.....If you're so proud of Israel and all you've accomplished....Why not share what makes you all so special? TATA
48. Ms. Sheleg thank u 4 this article...
Terror Survivor ,   Israel   (03.09.13)
If we who have suffered so insist on passing that suffering forward then we are no different than those who terrorize us. And we lose. Thank you for your eloquent message.
49. who are all these USA TBers who don't know a thing....
(03.09.13)
they don't even have an idea what Ms. Sheleg's politics are! She's right wing with principles and what she writes here is 100% in keeping with what Jabotinski, Begin and other revisionists would also say!
50. @37
Walter ,   Germany   (03.09.13)
Yes of cource. BTW Hitler was catholic to the bone, most voters of the NSDAP were protestants (83% protestant voters at a 50/50 ratio of protestants/catholics in Germany). So much to you theory of "Christianity as enlighted religion"
51. #17 Your talkbacks are repetitive, boring and void of
A ,   Belgium   (03.09.13)
any worth of any kind. Please find somewhere else to dump your garbage.
52. #33 - agree 100% with you
Helene ,   Merkaz   (03.09.13)
53. 33 yes you've got that 100%correct!
(03.09.13)
54. 3 attacks
Carl   (03.09.13)
3 attacks means that the whole society is screwed up? How many incidents of Arab stone throwing, attacks, stealing and vandalism happened during the same period? I don't condone these attacks but to be honest I think that the public is getting fed up. I live in a moshav that has suffered through years of stealing of agricultural goods by neighboring Arab villages which is never reported in the press, and rarely punished,although the cutting down of a few Olive trees on an Arab village immediately becomes front page news throughout the world. I am sick of it.
55. no, it means, many Jews are fed up...
uli ,   Jerusalem   (03.09.13)
...with obvious Arab und Muslim threat and the naive course of our government and its nice words about those that want us in the sea or beneath the earth. I am against those primitive attacks of random people, but see each day, how frustrated many - mainly young - Israelis are, with the soft handed approach of our government to people that want our genocide and are working on it.
56. ethnocentrism = thinking your group is more moral
Mary ,   USA   (03.10.13)
than other groups. Jews are not more honest, kind, moral than others. All ethnocentric groups feel this way about their own kind. It is a form of racism in itself. Hilarious to read all these sanctimonious comments essentially saying ''Jews must not be racist like the goyim; Jews are better than that''. That statement is incredibly racist and ethnocentric in itself. By the way... the comments on Ynet are uniformly mediocre and dull-witted. Where are all these Jewish geniuses we hear so much about ? Not commenting on Ynet obviously!
57. @51 - Why should I tolerate you in Belgium?
marc ,   belgium   (03.10.13)
# 17 has a point for discussion.
58. #46 bill, #56 mary
solomon ,   bklyn   (03.10.13)
Being 'a light unto the nations' does not mean Jews are better than anyone else. We have our rotten apples just like others. It means that we should strive to be better, so others can use that as an example and strive for the same. We are not "better than that". But we can be "better than that." At least we try. And you?
59. #57 marc - #17's points are usually drivel
solomon ,   bklyn   (03.10.13)
60. @56 here is the definition of Ethnocentrism
Sarita Montiel ,   Israel   (03.10.13)
"Ethnocentrism is judging another culture solely by the values and standards of one's own culture. The ethnocentric individual will judge other groups relative to his or her own particular ethnic group or culture, especially with concern to language, behavior, customs, and religion. These ethnic distinctions and subdivisions serve to define each ethnicity's unique cultural identity. Ethnocentrism may be overt or subtle, and while it is considered a natural proclivity of human psychology, it has developed a generally negative connotation." and not what you wrote. So Dear Mary, Dear Mary I think you need to do a bit more book learning before you insult entire groups of people. Actually, you really need to learn to exercise some self control over your anti-semitic feelings and not insult all Jews as if we were one monolithic group.
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