Opinion
Obama, don't visit Ramallah
Shoula Romano Horing
Published: 14.03.13, 19:47
Comment Comment
Print comment Print comment
Back to article
57 Talkbacks for this article
1. Peace is Impossible As Long as Incitement Exists?
Doug ,   Rochester, USA   (03.14.13)
Incitement? Like Illegal occupation? Like illegal colonization? Like land and water theft? Like THOUSANDS of apartheid checkpoints? Like Apartheid roads, walls and buses? Like paying for racist "border guards" and racist idf forces to "enforce" racist / zionist / illegal policy? Obama, visit Ramallah but do not visit Israel. Otherwise you are supporting incitement, racism, apartheidism, zionism, and genocied.
2. Obama, do visit brutally occupied West Bank w/300 reporters
Steve Benassi ,   Silver Bay, MN USA   (03.14.13)
...to show world Israel's crimes against the native Palestinians.
3. there is one little problem with the thesis as presented
Cipora Julianna Kohn ,   Z   (03.14.13)
all that is said in this opinion piece is perfectly true. however, elections among the arab palestinians would make no difference to the democratic process or to the outrageous incitement against jews and their state. the near totality of arab palestinians are not interested in western style democracy; the near totality of arabs of any background hate jews and the jewish state of israel.
4. Not an op-ed but hasbara propoganda. 1) lead-off playing the
Taxpayer   (03.14.13)
victim card (must be mantatory). 2) presented the "big-line", israel is a democracy. It is a "jewish democracy" where non-jews are second class citizens. 3) Point not mention: israel gets 100 times more of a "hand-out" that Palestine. 4) what about israel's "administrative detension" use on strictly Arabs. Obama would find the atmospher much nicer in the West Bank
5. To. Nos.1,2,4
Matt ,   New Bedford,Ma USA   (03.15.13)
Propaganda, Hasbara in this article.You can not be serious. You have mentioned every mindless Palestinian Propaganda talking point that exists. There is no peace between Israel and the Palestinians because the Arabs refuse to accept the existence of a Jewish State. All the inconveniences Arabs in the West Bank endure are caused by their own behavior and that of their leadership and the constant threat of terrorism directed at Israeli citizens. All peace gestures made by Israel including the withdrawal from Gaza has been answered by increased violence. The so- called 2nd class Arab citizens of Israel itself would probably choke you if you tried to move them to any Arab country.
6. obama is not stupid
alexi   (03.15.13)
obama is not stupid, he has ideas. His exposure has been to very good friend khalidi who educated him in a false narrative that the arabs had a palestine devoid of jews for hundreds of years and that the jews came from remnants in europe and took it illegally. He left out that the legal mandate wasgiven to jews, that ancient israel existed whereas there was never a palestine nation. As well, since obama has strong moslem roots, he sees jihad struggle through the koran as just notwithstanding babies get their skulls bashed in by arab rocks. He doesn't see this. so with yaalon, shamir, bennett, leiberman, ahronovitch, hopefully in government, they will resist obama's requests for concessions which bibi has zero capacity to resist as he is so bloody insecure and weak especially now, not as bad as olmert but close, weak as hell. meanwhile the latee coffee drinkers like tom friedman, know it alls livni and lapid will be pushing for concessions, the shmucks that they are.
7. The woman is just out there in the style
Waste of time,   (03.15.13)
of Sarah B and couple other delusional creatures here. Not warranted a talkback but just the same.
8. #4; Palestinian propaganda &brainwashing
Ari ,   New Orleans, LA   (03.15.13)
It is sad to observe again how correct the article has been . The Palestinians are the most notorious victims there are; they beg the world to recognize a state they never had and beg for money their leaders spent on themselves. 2. Israel is a democracy for all its citizens including the Arab Israelis; During the last Israeli election in January the Arabs like all jews voted and got 11 members in the Israeli Parliament out of 120 members; The Arabs under Israeli rule were able to vote , something they were not able to do for over 8 years under Abbas. The Arabs in Israel can talk against Bibi Netanyahu and will not end up in Jail like the Palestinians under Abbas 3. israel gets aid from the US but they need to use the money only in the US and buy with that aid only American products and military. The aid to the Palestinians goes directly to Abbas pockets and his cronies. and purchase nothing for the people 4. Obama will not have so much fun in Ramalah after walking around the Ramalah streets named after terroists who killed Americans. The women covered from head to toes will not be fun too..
9. Oblamer, Please Do Go And Take#2 With You
Brett ,   Florida   (03.15.13)
Maybe neither of you will make it out of there alive. Peace partners huh? #2 and oblamer are both number two, if you get my meaning.
10. #1,2,4: Abbas is corrupt & undemocratic
Zipi ,   Tel Aviv, Israel   (03.15.13)
Again, the Arabs and the so called Arab Palestinians think that offense is the best defense. They cannot even try to refute the fact that there is incitement to hatred and violence by PA. They also do not refute that there is no democracy or freedom of speech u or rule of law nder the rule of Abbas for his own people. The PA simply wants the Palestinians to accept their horrible life of poverty and repression inflicted on them by Abbas and they want their people to blame the occupation instead. The sad truth is that Israel did so much more for the Palestinian's economy, education, infrastructure than Abbas and Arafat ever did . Palestinians should wake up and revolt agaainst Abbas like in Surya, Tunisia and Egypt.
11. whose hero?
forehead1 ,   usa   (03.15.13)
doesn't israel name streets , parks, buildings, and etc. after their hero's ( those who kill arabs)? seems like even steven
12. Steal land, burn crops, torch mosques, they will love us!
For Shoula ,   tampa   (03.15.13)
13. I'm no big fan of the Palestinians, but...
Michael Steiner ,   Bahrain   (03.15.13)
...YOU are talking about incitement!!? The amount of garbage coming out of certain sectors of the Israeli and Jewish populace is simply stupendous. It is now as vociferous, belligerent and mendacious as the old blood libel they've been throwing at us. Pot. Kettle. Black.
14. I'
Michael Steiner ,   Bahrain   (03.15.13)
15. #2 - When did you last visit the West Bank?
Michael Redbourn ,   Arad Israel   (03.15.13)
16. Steiner, check dis:
HaifaGuy   (03.15.13)
Jews. Ghetto. Self-effacement. What are you doing in Bahrein anyway, my self-critical yid friend? You must be one of those Jews antisemites quote as friends when they're about to utter something islamofascistic. Good luck on your appeasement effort, hope I don't see you in an AlQaeda video anytime soon.
17. Ignore 1,2, 4
israel israeli ,   tel aviv   (03.15.13)
People: 1, 2, and 4 grew up thinking their culture is superior to anything Jewish or Christian, yet as soon as they could, they moved to the West to escape violence and corruption in their homelands. Now they are sitting in a Western country, doing nothing but getting free stuff and collecting benefits from hardworking locals. To vent the frustration of believing they are superior despite the facts to the contrary, they attack Israel with "facts" they or some friend invented. Mock them, yes, but do not feel offended.
18. To: No. 13
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (03.15.13)
Stick to arranging marriages, Mikey boy. Intellectual discourse is considerably beyond your abilities.
19. To: Alexi at No. 6
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (03.15.13)
Actually, Obama is an idiot. He graduated third from the bottom of Harvard Law School. At a time when law firms were desperate to diversify, Obama was such a poor candidate, he wasn't even recruited! That's why he became a "neighborhood organizer." Just like the "Reverend" Al Sharpton in New York. The emperor has no clothes, honey.
20. To: No. 7
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (03.15.13)
Care to buttress your statements with some facts? Otherwise, you're just a waste of time. Not to mention oxygen. Just the same.
21. Not to worry
BUILD BABY BUILD ,   United States   (03.15.13)
obama has no power over Israel or the pals. He's outta here in less than four years. No Israeli politician in their right mind will succumb to obama's nonsense. He babbles a lot and says nothing of real interest. We all know he's pro Muslim but, does nothing to help one dying Syrian. He's managed to install the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt ( a confirmed 'terrorist organization" ) and thinks he can do the same with Israel. He's either drunk of deluded or both. obama stay home and face the music for you 'sky is falling' chicken little prognostications that have gotten you no where but in deep trouble with the American People.
22. good point,where is the money??where is freedom??
Anna M Sedda ,   Rome   (03.15.13)
23. #2 Thats actually a good idea, Benazzi
A ,   Belgium   (03.15.13)
He can talk to the arab construction workers (only appx. 7% of Israeli Jews work in construction) building homes and buildings for Israelis, take a ride down any of the main arteries in Judah and Samaria and buy fresh citrus fruits and cheeses from the stands (he might have to wait in line, though, they are very popular with the Jews), he can gas up at an arab run gas station, have mechanical or body work done (I can recommend a genius at body work, as I lived in Samaria for many years) if his car is damaged by stone throwers, and maybe, just maybe an arab will tell him what I was told once...they are afraid to say it, but they WANT the Israelis to stay there, the don't trust the PLO. An arab told me during the Jordanian OCCUPATION, his father couldn't afford to buy him shoes, now he has his own business and more work than he can handle. If you want to talk about "brutal occupation", why not remind yourself of the Dakota, Anishinaabe, and other Native American tribes of Minnesota that were displaced from their lands by your predecessors. Now run along, you have bedpans to empty.
24. misinformed Sarah B
mba ,   Israel   (03.15.13)
Obama stated on being accepted to the Harvard 3 year law program that a law degree would be the best vehicle to facilitate community organization and activism. He served as Editor of the Harvard Law Review and went on to teach Constitutional Law at Chicago University. Sarah, are you sure you're not stuck in the South of the 50's and 60's?
25. @#19 when in doubt lie
Robert ,   NY USA   (03.15.13)
Harvard Law Review editor? Lecturer University Chicago Law? Recruited for a major Chicago firm? Was an organizer BEFORE law school not after? He is the President of the US and you are a pathetic liar off her meds.
26. To: A at No. 23
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (03.15.13)
Amen! The Arab contractor who laid the marble in my kitchen begged me to "make" Israel take over Judea and Samaria. He was so proud of the fact that his son was going to go to college! He said were it not for the Jews, such an opportunity would never have happened. But I guess the world isn't all that much interested. It is, after all, so much more fun to despise Jews. Still -- how much credence is it possible to render idiots who have never even been to Israel? I think Benassi fits that bill. I guess he's been too busy emptying bedpans.
27. To America-hating Sarah
Ha!   (03.15.13)
Obama graduated magna cum laude from Harvard Law School. That not third from the bottom, you silly woman.
28. Arafat's pension?
Sherlock Holmes ,   London England   (03.15.13)
Can President Obama link American support to an independent investigation into the five to six billion dollars Chairman Arafat is supposed to have left in Swiss and French banks? If 'you can't take it with you', you can at least give it back to the Palestinian people you stole it from!
29. President Obama Vist to Ramallah
Al ,   US   (03.15.13)
Ms. Horing negleted to mention Freedom House opinion that independent Palestinian state is the only way to peace and continued settlement building, wall building and constriction on the movement of the Palestinian are the major cause for problems. There is no begger incitment than the occupation.
30. To: No. 24
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (03.15.13)
Actually, dear, Obama was president of the Law Review. Not an editor. His job was to get the pizza.
Next talkbacks
Back to article