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71-year-old attacked for 'driving slowly'
Raanan Ben-Zur
Published: 02.04.13, 14:53
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1. traffic aggression
Toledano Jean-Pierre ,   Israel   (04.02.13)
Road rage or traffic aggression. You have it in Europe, now you have it in Israel. From my experience it's existing here since a long time. If somebody respects the traffic regulations, some people start bumper driving, when they pass the other driver they cut him off or braking abruptly. Nobody talks about it only when an accident occurs or if an elderly man is the victim. Instead to focus on driving 5 or 10 km to quickly the police has to try to stop that aggression by using many ordinary cars, without the typical red white police license plates.
2. What Is Happening?
leo ,   nyc   (04.02.13)
Certainly here in the US, there is a level of violence against the elderly-- but I can remember a time in Israel when the elderly were honored and respected-what's gone wrong?
3. Okay, let's put a stop to this now
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (04.02.13)
Attempted murder, with aggravating circumstances. Fifteen years imprisonment. End of story.
4. I hope all 3 of these victims recover well
jrebecca ,   modiin   (04.02.13)
and that their attackers get many years of public service, preferably working in old age homes and soup kitchens, as punishment. Oh and these two should have their drivers licenses removed.
5. What was the nationality or the background of the young men?
k ,   US   (04.02.13)
I doubt they were Jews, I know the media can not say these things
6. Traffic Agression
Moshe ,   Givataim   (04.02.13)
The traffic aggression is increasing and getting more an more every day. The main problem is the attitude of the drivers as well as of the police. To how many of us it is happening that people start beeping in the moment the traffic lights just intending to move to green? To how many of us it is happening that we see someone going reverse on a main street and the police car is next to him but not doing anything? To how many of us it is happing that people are just stopping wherever they feel like and again the police is not doing anything? So the main problem is the police. People are getting angry because they feel that if they obey the traffic laws they are "freirs". In the moment it is ok on our street to violate the traffic laws, as no one is doing anything. DO we really think this is a nice place to life or even to drive a vehicle on the streets? Does it has to come to this situation that an old man has to be hospitalized? I wish him a fast recovery and the two suspects to get their driving license back in the year 2050, if at all.
7. The Bibi generation
Dan   (04.02.13)
The belief that it's legitimate to aggress against anyone who stands in your way – settlers against Palestinian shepherds, Haredim against innocent secular women – is a feature of Bibi's national-religious fascism. No 'Bibi Youth' or black or brown shirts – yet –but the attitude is there. Don't accept this, Israel.
8. #2
Moshe ,   Givataim   (04.02.13)
Leo, this is unfortunately not happing anymore. The new generation is not respecting the elderly anymore. Especially these "wild monkeys" on the street. The new rule is faster and more rude. The more rude you are the more cool they think they are. It is time for these donkeys to ride the donkey instead of a car that they are mentally not able to drive.
9. what is it ?
patrick a. hammel ,   zermatt,switzerland   (04.02.13)
Is Israel a Jewish State or a State for the jews ?
10. These kids need 5 years in jail and no mercy..........!!!!!!
Nip it in the bud ,   NOW   (04.02.13)
That is the only way to stop this youth brutality and send a clar message to others it won't be tolerated.
11. My country
Sagi   (04.02.13)
my homeland, the one I have lived in and loved in all my life, the one in which I brought children into and taught them to love, the one whose fields I plowed and sowed and reaped her harvests, has turned into a disgusting place to live in all round, a monster, violence and public disorder are prevalent, disrespect for one's fellow citizen and for public property are ubiquitous, interface with the public services quickly turns into confrontation. Only the stiffest of punishments will have any effect on this situation which is getting worse by the day.Our society is sick and in need of radical surgery.
12. #7 Dan you are 100% correct
Haim ,   TA   (04.02.13)
Israeli drivers are very aggressive, and as you say of the BB right wing religious generation, which teaches yourng people that in order to get ahead you need to be aggressive. Also take in to considertation that some young men that serve in the army seem not to be able to differate between the battle field and the driving on the roads.
13. This happens here too.
BUILD BABY BUILD !!! ,   United States   (04.02.13)
Relax, it isn't an Israeli only symptom. I've told my family that even though I abhor violence and guns, if I were elderly and in a wheel chair, the first thing I'd buy is a hand gun.
14. Maybe IDF teaches aggression...but it is not
exUK ,   TEl Aviv   (04.02.13)
about driving fast.It is a case of ..no signalling...no consideration for anyone else on the road...no patience...weaving across all lanes with no signals...tailgating with flashing lights.Also if you leave a 'correct' minimum distance between your car and the one in front,another car cuts in front of you.I haven't started on the motorbikes yet.I'm not surprised that there are many accidents with them.And how about cycles on our pedestrian pavements? I'v been threatened by several young people when challenging them about dangerous driving.
15. #9
Lazerbenabba ,   London, England   (04.02.13)
Your comment was short and succinct and I would suggest that it describes very well the dichotomy in how to describe Israel's citizens. I believe the latter part "A State for the Jews" is more apt but of course it is also a state for all its citizens; there should however be one proviso, that those who deny the veracity of the State of Israel should be given every encouragement to leave and not return.
16. Bad Behaviour runs rife ..Parents and Schools to blame !
Roland Seener ,   London England   (04.02.13)
17. This happens here too.
BUILD BABY BUILD !!! ,   United States   (04.02.13)
Relax, it isn't an Israeli only symptom. I've told my family that even though I abhor violence and guns, if I were elderly and in a wheel chair, the first thing I'd buy is a hand gun.
18. Honor Thy Father
ASTRONAUT ,   SC, USA   (04.02.13)
and Thy Mother. How tragic that the Land of The Book, the land from whence our Torah came, now rots morally, along with the godless liberal Western nations. It's all about self, self, self; and being uncouth, egocentric, spoiled brats.
19. Israeli's justice is a revolving door for feral thugs.
Edithann ,   USA   (04.02.13)
Israel can't seem to raise decent kids, what's the matter with you all? TATA
20. What do you expect!
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (04.02.13)
We have created a soul-less society where human life is as cheap as a bullet and an excuse. We pretend we care about life, but in reality we only care about those we identify with. Our children have grown up in a violent society, and much of that, we have created and nourished. We reap what we sow.
21. #5 Are you kidding?
geepee ,   tel aviv   (04.02.13)
"Can't be Jews?" Which planet are YOU on? I've been physically manhandled (including a punch in the stomach) by JEWISH Israelis. For nothing more than voiced objections to their already disgusting behaviour. And let me tell you that I've seen groups of Arab kids on school trips - ten times better behaved than their Jewish counterparts. They learn two things Jewish kids here don't: discipline and respect.
22. In an entitled society, this is the result..
Al   (04.02.13)
I would suggest you study America's socio economic development to see where you are heading. Israel is starting to show signs of the barrio and the ghetto so typical of Obamas America. The welfare cheque is doing that to you. When the state becomes your wet nurse, your mama , your daddy, you absolve yourself of any and all responsibility. Cut off the welfare, get people to work and make men out of your boys.
23. 2leo,Orthodox society has ...
ORA ,   JERUSALEM   (04.02.13)
after all some good sides,...respect for the elderly is one of them.
24. #7 stop comparing everything to nazism
(04.02.13)
except nazism itself. Read history before you compare anything to Hitler jugend or brownshirts please.
25. a few years ago i was riding my
JL   (04.02.13)
motorbike through herzlia pituach..someone behind me thought i was driving too slow although i waved him to pass me..he cut me off on the street and pulled a handgun from the glove..i laughed at him and asked if he would shoot me for driving slow..he tried to run me down..people here suck
26. No different from
Get Real ,   UK   (04.02.13)
most of the rest of the world. Condemn the culprits, not the country nor the army, or whoever else.
27. thugs,
bruce ,   north/israel   (04.02.13)
i remember watching the movie "clockwork orange" well im older and wiser now when i drive i try to stay on the right side of the road and pray like hell.i learned to drive from my father who was a traveling salesman. the reality today different life is different i blame it on google and utube plus living in israel car 54 where are you?
28. Interesting
Moshe ,   Givataim   (04.02.13)
It is interesting we all have the same experience, and when I am looking around during the day, then I see that there are a lot like us. However it seems to me that we are all quiet, or did we already give up? WE ARE THE SOCIETY. So why don't we do something? Only this will change the situation, the government including the police wont move a finger for us. But if we all stand up, then things will change. WE ARE THE SOCIETY
29. #5 K in the US, The young men are from Tel aviv & Ramat Gan
Haim ,   TA   (04.02.13)
99% certain they are jews. Time to take off your rose colored glasses buddy.
30. Attacking Elderlies
Zvi ,   Bat Yam   (04.02.13)
Four elderly people were attacks in two weeks. It show the total failure and degenaration of the israeli society and lack of culture. And what the police do...... Nothing!!!
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