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America's silent Jews
Liron Nagler-Cohen
Published: 06.04.13, 08:27
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1. The article neglected to mention the 240,000
Rivkah   (04.06.13)
Messianic Jews from Russia in or near the Stockton, California, area where they migrated to from Russia to be an example of moral excellence to decadent Americans. That is where the Jewish brides are to be found who are not worldly and who do not reject Yehoshua of Nazareth as the Jewish Messiah, who fulfilled the Spring Feasts of the Lord as the Sacrificial Lamb and will return as the Lion of Judah.
2. Hilarious...25 years after they arrival they want to
Al   (04.06.13)
participate...hahaha In the very early 1900's they were front row and center in building shuls here in Montreal, today's Russian immigrant is running 'Svetlana" message parlors on Decarie Blvd here in Montreal. Yeah they want to "participate"...throw them a freebie and they gather like flies. Please stop the charade...once a schnorrer always a schnorrer.
3. Just 1 question in all honestly,,,,,
Linda ,   New Haven, Conn.   (04.06.13)
Are these people Khazars, do they consider themselves Khazars, and what are Khazar Jews, can someone help, please, "Just one question in all honestly". Thanks
4. #2
mark ,   ca   (04.06.13)
If you know the name and address of massage parlor ... must be a frequent guest ??:-))
5. Such BS..Ynet should be ashamed and embarrassed to print
Edithann ,   USA   (04.06.13)
such garbage! TATA
6. # 3
Jules   (04.06.13)
They are descendants of the Ashkenazim who lived in the western regions of the former Russian Empire. In other words, they are closely related to the founders of the State of Israel.
7. Al @2, you did not get it.
leo ,   usa   (04.06.13)
Those were different Jews, they knew Jewishness and they only needed to have a place where they could be Jews. Former Soviet Jews are different and most are yet to find their own Jewishness.
8. #3
Me ,   Canada   (04.06.13)
You are the reason why my family never moved to Israel from USSR. In USSR we were damned Jews in Israel we are damned Russians! And in Canada we are just Canadians! Thanks God !!!
9. Linda @3, no, I do not consider myself a Hazar,
leo ,   usa   (04.06.13)
never had, knew I even had a reason to think this way. Now, honesty for honest, why would you ask?
10. # 1 Rivkah.how can Jews believe in
J.K. ,   Brooklyn USA   (04.06.13)
Jesus,as the messiah ?. the man responsible for the persecution of the Jews in the last 2000 years,and for the extermination of millions of Jews in Europe by the Germans,the killing of Jesus was the first blood libel against the Jewish peple,Jesus being a sacrificial lamb for humanities sins is a big lie,human sacrifice is forbidden in Judaism,the Prophets of Israel have condemned this barbaric practice all the time,in Judaism,you can't hire a surrogate to die for your sins,"Ish beheto yamut".
11. # 3 Linda.The Khazars were pagans who converted to
J.K. ,   Brooklyn USA   (04.06.13)
Judaism in the 7th or 8 century,and had nothing to do with christianity, probably,Rivkah is referring to the Subbotnics,a sect in Russia that was close to Judaism but also believed in jesus.
12. Many delicatessen stores making them rich, paradise life.
Michael ,   California, USA   (04.06.13)
If they still go to shul, they go where the wealth is, to Reform synagogues. Most of them go to the park and do it al he'eh on Saturdays. Only very old ones are still visible looking like the old country shtetl. Young immigrants from Russia are getting educated and advancing nicely in this environment of opportunity.
13. To Linda about Khazars
Yoav ,   Germany   (04.06.13)
Shalom Linda, do not trust anyone who will try to explain it to you on this or other sites. If you will know the answer, make up your mind and gather different infos about Khazars. Fact is, there no more of Khazars exist. The elite of Khazars were adopted Judaism, not all people. Anyway, I wish I could help you))
14. Mark fron CA...I go there to collect the rent..
Al   (04.06.13)
15. To all talkbackers
Eli ,   Modiin, Israel   (04.06.13)
The essence of the article is correct and simple: The USSR Jews did not feel welcome upon their arrival in the US. Yes, there was money put forward by Jewish philanthropists to HIAS, JOINT, NIANA, etc. And yet, the arriving Jews felt second class and insufficient. These were the people whose families went through the Revolution and Civil War, Stalin’s purges, WWII and the Holocaust, state-sponsored anti-Semitism, who survived and never forget who and what they are, who took the risk and left the country of their birth with nothing, literally nothing – they were treated, and still are, as lesser Jews, lesser than the rich, Harvard-educated, Obama-voting, Israel-bashing American Jews.
16. Eli @ 15, nonsense, Soviet Jew in US were no more welcome or
leo ,   usa   (04.06.13)
unwelcome than anybody else.
17. BIG oxymoron jews & silent.
Roberto   (04.06.13)
18. 8.
Birdi ,   Israel   (04.07.13)
Whoa! ''In Israel we are damned Russian'' Wrong lady, you are not damned in Israel. Some of your people lied to get into Israel. Some of your people have formed a strong & deadly mafia. Some of your people, made aliyah, took money from the State, packed a light suitcase & sailed away, never to return! However, the school going children of your people have assimilated 100% All the Russian immigrants that I have met & worked with are respectful, decent, honorable, intelligent,kind people. Thank you very much!
19. #16
mark ,   ca   (04.07.13)
Leo,read post #15 again.Eli is talking about how Soviet Jews treated by American Jews .He is correct ( from my personal experience).
20. 10 J.K., Brooklyn, USA: I did not say Jesus (JeZeus) was the
Rivkah   (04.07.13)
Jewish Messiah. I said Yehoshua of Nazareth. He, too, wished there was another way to reconcile sinful mankind to a holy Father Yahweh who created the universe. He sweat tears of blood in the Garden of Gethsemane before his arrest by the Romans. He begged His Father Yahweh to find another way but there was no other way. Emperor Constantine changed the early Christian faith to a sungod named JeZeus and paganized the holidays, forbidding people to keep the seventh day Sabbath of the Lord or His Holy Spring and Fall Feasts that foretold of the Messiah as a Sacrificial Lamb and later as the Lion o f Judah. It was not Yehoshua of Nazareth or His followers who persecuted the Jews. It was Satan and his followers. Do not throw away your eternal soul in misunderstanding Scriptures. Read C.J. Koster's Messianic Jewish book, "Come Out of Her My People". That can impart to you the wisdom to understand by the power of the Ruach HaKodesh.
21. #14
mark ,   ca   (04.07.13)
So you indeed get your rent! They don't try to get it for free?!... or,maybe,you get some special treatment as a bonus...:-))
22. #18
mark ,   ca   (04.07.13)
"..Some of your people ..." ...good reason to run and never look back...
23. to FSU jews in USA
Bluegrass Picker ,   Afula   (04.07.13)
rather than getting close to the crowd that spawns "celebrity rabbis", you should get close to the ethnic-Hebrew self-identifiers. It is a better strategic move. Google on "Israeli American Council". The "celebrity rabbis" will have great-grandchildren who speak Ebonics and get knocked up by ghetto thugs.
24. Israelis hate Russians
Rusi Masriah ,   Toronto   (04.07.13)
From having lived in Israel for several years, here are my observations. Israelis hate Russian Jews (see comments here). They hate them because they are more educated and have more "classical" culture (real literature, music, not Eretz Nehederet). Israelis have no respect for Russian Jews' resilience in the face of hardship (Holocaust, Communism), their educational achievements, their Zionism. If Americans or Europeans treated Jews the way Israeli Jews treat Russian Jews, it would be called racism. But in Israel, it's acceptable.
25. To #2
Ezra ,   Montreal   (04.07.13)
If you spent less time in massage parlors and more in synagogue and in jewish organisations, you would discover how many wonderful formerly soviet Jews are impacting our community...
26. This article is bogus since the Cohan DNA is well known to
Rivkah   (04.07.13)
be authentic, not a Khazarian DNA. Anyone who converts to Judaism and believes Yehoshua of Nazareth is the Messiah and obeys His commandments by the power of the Holy Spirit IS JEWISH. No one but Jews can enter HaShem's eternal Kingdom, so the grafted on Gentile branch has to become JEWISH, too.
27. 8.
Birdi ,   Israel   (04.07.13)
Whoa! ''In Israel we are damned Russian'' Wrong lady, you are not damned in Israel. Some of your people lied to get into Israel. Some of your people have formed a strong & deadly mafia. Some of your people, made aliyah, took money from the State, packed a light suitcase & sailed away, never to return! However, the school going children of your people have assimilated 100% All the adult Russian immigrants I have met & worked with are respectful, decent, honorable, intelligent,kind people. Thank you very much!
28. Why you uptight with it, #5?
Cameron ,   USA   (04.07.13)
29. why so much Christians recruiting?
Serge ,   Montreal, Canada   (04.07.13)
It seems that there are a lot of talkbacks from Christians (who call themselves "Messianic Jews") trying to recruit Russian Jews on the assumption they won't know any better. How insulting.
30. 24.
Birdi ,   Israel   (04.07.13)
Total garbage from beginning to end. Israelis do not hate Russian Jews. Israel is made up of many people from different societies, each group has brought their own culture. Higher education in Israel is costly, however it is obtainable through grants etc. Israelis maybe don't know enough about the resilience of your people. Not every Israeli has been able to visit Russia. Russian history is not taught in the Israeli educational system. (not yet) No kind of racisim is acceptable in Israel.
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