any non moslem country in the midst of the arab world would be in the same boat. No arab or turkish signed peace t reaty is worth anything more than an armistice that they can break at any time. look at how greece is tormented by the pack of liars in ankara. The arabs would do to israel what is now happening in syria. You don't see cause like haaretz staff, you are beset by fears of like a famous soldier who was traded for, he was paralysed by fear and did not fight. That could happen to any of us. i'll take the high ground, the ridges of judea and jordan valley and the golan and accept the situation now as that will be as good as it gets. Eitan, israel cannot survive with people like you, olmert, livni, even shalit in the idf, it is then finished. it would have been better if israel had moved to a land far away from any arabs period. And if the Un offered israel a land say 10000 miles from arabs with compensation of 10 trillion dollars, maybe then it should consider it. israelis are a good people. Living with arabs in some confederation is an impossible situation. We tried peres rotten oslo and that is enough for me. I want to hear no more words of peacek, finished. and israel if necessary will destroy the whole arab world if that what it takes. Meanwhile eitan, keep taking your antidepressants!

How sad that Israel still is threatened with destruction by it neighbors. Meanwhile the world condemns us. Antisemitism is not new. However, as you say Israel has worked wonders - Ha Tiferet Yisrael. As for the 'easy life' in Oz, NZ Hong King, etc yes life is so much easier and infinitetly safer but war does not escape them either. I did some research: Australia will be withdrawing 1000 of its 1550 troops from Afghanistan by end of 2013; 39 troops were killed and 249 injured in Afghanistan.(Guardian UK) New Zealnd withdrew its 145 troops from Afghanistan on April 5 2013, 10 NZ troops were killed in Afghanistan. 27 planning and intel personnel will remain (ABC News USA) presumably till all allied forces withdraw by end 2014.- except for US troops needed to support Afghan forces. The US has lost thousands in Afghanistan and Iraq, UK also. As for those Hong Kong folk - they have no freedom.

our existence is and always has been conditional on the covenant of the Oseh Shalom. We keep the covenant, we keep the land, and we can be better than Hong Kong, Australia and the rest, but it is still on condition. We should be acclimated to this by now.

Israel was offered Madagascar and it was offered Uganda. Please note, for the record, that the Jewish homeland is where Jerusalem is.

Israel ought strengthen its Rugged Survivalist Capacity in both the active protection sphere ie nuclear submarines at Two million each for women and children one hundred thousand nuclear shelters and underground zones and attacking sphere a Horrific DeterrantStrike Capacity .

(1) Quote : " ...does not understand how we have not been destroyed yet. " . Oh yeh, very simple : the Superpower America has been supporting you and spoiling you all the time, and you know how uncertain Israel would be without total American support... (2) Quote again : " ...For 65 years we have been fighting wars..." . Israel ought to have the wisdom of learning from history : Great Britain colonized India for 400 years, and Hong Kong for 140 years and yet eventually the British pulled out and went back home . Similarly France colonized Algeria for 130 years and attempted by force to make it a " Metropolitan France " and yet in the end France pulled out and went back home, leaving the Algerian arabs alone . And Portugal colonized Angola and Mozambique for long , but finally retreated back to its original miniscule size . Also, apartheid South Africa... ! So , in comparison Israel at 65 is still mighy young , and only the long-term developments and changes in time would decide its fate. And although Jews of Israel obstinately claim this land as theirs the Arabs equally stubbornly claim it as theirs , and thus it is a test of wills . (3) Israel is well aware that the Arab's numerical advantage ( numerical superiority) could ( and would ) in the long run tip the balance in their favor ; both Arnold Toynbee and Richard Nixon overtly expressed their doubts about Israel's survivability while being surrounded by hostile Arabs . Also Anwar Sadat tried on two different occasions to remind Israel of the Arabs' long-term numerical superiority : " The Arabs will never be totally defeated . We can have several more defeats and still survive, and in the end the conqueror will have to give up like all conquerors have in history." He also said : " ...the Arabs can afford to lose ten soldiers for each Israeli soldier lost, and yet Israel will reach the bottom first " . (4) Right after the 1967 War a BBC correspondent summed it up succinctly : " Israel will have won the war had it been accepted by Arabs . Lesser victories win time, not peace . How can Israel insure its future, rather than its present, survival ? " . So , Israel's best guarantee for survival is to win the minds and hearts of the Arabs instead of trying to impose its will on them by military force . And only under such circumstances would Israel be able to survive without fear and wars .

I thought we are the ones who don't want peace. I don't think we really want peace...We will sunk in our ignorance...

Actually, United States aid did not come until well past the Six Day War. Truth be told, darling, we kicked your sorry Arab asses to the curb all on our own. We did it then. We can do it now. With or without the United States. Care to take us on, habibi? Go ahead. Watch what happens. How much land do you REALLY want to lose? Contrary to your stupid assertion, Israel's best bet is our ability. And our determination. Unless you REALLY want to spend the rest of your miserable life crawling around the Hejaz in the Western Arabian desert, you had better take heed. We can send you there in a New York minute. That's pretty fast. And we won't need anyone's help. Isn't it time you cowered and simply knelt down and acknowledged that it is the Jews that control your fate? Boo, hoo, hoo. Cry me a river. Israel's military force is pretty good. You had better not test us -- unless you plan to live in Saudi Arabia for the rest of your life. We'll crush your sorry Arab asses. Have you learned nothing since 1948? Go back to school, idiot. We OWN you. Don't worry about Israel's survival. We are more than capable of taking care of ourselves. You had best worry about the day that we decide we no longer care about YOU. That's coming, habibi. That's coming. I hope you are prepared, because when it does come, you'll have a major problem.

You defeated back in 1948 & in 1967, not because of your military might and intelligence prowess but due to collaboration of the some Arab regimes with you and the backing of the Western powers. All this is well-documented. Should you deny my cliam, I will remind you the your latest military adventures in S. Lebanon 2006 and Gaza 2012. You caved in despite your arrogance of having the finest weaponry and the best trained soldiers. In fact, you are not capable of fight a very small lightly-armed faction. As such, you will definitely be unable to face well-coordinated attacks from the Arabs after the end of this upheaval in the Arab World. More importantly, I would like to remind you that we rule the world for so long and you were protected by us in Audulesia and eleswhere. We were defeated and thrown into oblivion and ignorance because of your machinations and our damned rulers collaborations. You had better read the future well.

"We fight every day, all day, for our existence here. As far as we know, there is no other country in the world whose existence is still being threatened 65 years after it declared independence." umm what about the country you are currently occupying!? PALESTINE!

Then be so honest and pay for the German submarines.

of terror everywhere. Without excuses, considerations and other niceties. Just like the german nation had to pay in casualties beyond regular army so do Arabs.

The dumbest way to try and make peace is by making concessions to those who'd love to mass murder you. This lunacy is the Israeli left's only concept of "peace making". The WW II Allies showed us how permanent real peace is made. They brought permanent peace to Europe and Asia by totally obliterating the German and Japanese armies. Israel must totally defeat "Palestinian" poseurs in order to make real peace. No concessions. No retreats. No rubbish. They must go!

advantage: the arab necessity to lie about everything.Arab unity? Sure, while waiting to stab each other in the back. It is quite possible Israel would have had to pay much more for her victory in 1967 (WITHOUT US aid, WITHOUT "collaboration of the some Arab regimes "...that's a REAL good one!), if the biggest arab leaders Nasser, Assad and Hussein weren't so busy with their 3-way lying and boasting contest about their fictional victories. Fact was, Egypts' armor was destroyed, Syrias' air force was destroyed, and Jordans' stranglehold on Jerusalem was destroyed. "Palestinians" had just been invented, a new lie. How much of the money promised to the "palestinians" by their rich arab bretheren...Qatar, for example...has actually ended up in being used for something positive, instead of lining your politicians pockets? And that lie about "Gaza 2012"...Israel could burn Gaza to the last rat in a moment, except that the Israeli army tries to avoid civilian casualties, even when terrorists shoot missiles from mosques, schools and hospitals. Ever hear the story about the boy who cried wolf? Keep crying wolf, eventually NO ONE will be willing to listen to your lies anymore.

The State of Israel has made it unbearable for the ultra-religious Jews to live in their holy land. Remember, it was they who pre-dated these secular newcomers. They are entitled to receive welfare like the citizens of every other modern state. That they are the descendants of those who preferred a peaceful Arab rule rather than 65 years of Zionist warmongering should make it understandable that they do not feel comfortable joining and propping up the Zionist enterprise by joining their army. The existence of Israel has caused the death of over 120,000 humans – Arabs and Jews - people whose parents lives have been shattered, like what Moshe Yalon said: "The price you paid for the continued existence of the State of Israel is unbearable, incomprehensible”. Why would any normal person want to be part of this? The experiment of Zionism has failed. Israel today is one of the most dangerous countries to live in. Long after Hitler and his cronies failed in wiping out the Jews, now Israel’s enemies wish to continue and complete. This would not be the case if the orthodox had had their way. Don’t force them to accept your ideals. I for one, will not be celebrating Yom Haatzmaut today.

On Israel's 65 anniversary Chaim is dreaming about the "tottally" (!)"obligeration"(!) of the "Palestinian" - one of the smallest, poorest and weakest nations in the World, living for decades under occupation. Congratulations Chaim. And to the "Goyim" you probably still preach: "who saves one life saves the world entire"

The redemption, i.e. counter-balancing of the evil forces by the energies of light is a process that unfolds over time. Peace means an absence of sexual, physical or emotional violence in a place. To create such a situation requires shifts in both mindset and setting. World Peace 2050 is thus a worthy goal. The State of Israel should be one of the lead shareholders in the prospectus. The Holy Land's divine purpose is to be a stable, ordered, benevolent and expansive platform for the all of humankind. Think "Light unto the Nations."

It is a historic fact that the WW II Allies brought permanent peace to Europe and Asia by obliterating the German and Japanese armies. Any decent WW II history book can prove that. Historically, resounding victories pave the way for peace. This is also the only true path to peace for Israel and "Palestinian" poseurs. I do not advocate the obliteration of "Palestinian" poseurs. I simply urge they move to any of the 22 Arab countries, many Muslim lands or Free World nations and leave Jews in peace in our sole tiny Homeland.

The only proven way to achieve REAL peace is to destroy, yes, DESTROY your enemy before he has a chance to destroy you. Haber, you're tired of fighting because you never fought TO THE END. Of COURSE your enemy will keep coming back stronger each time - you let him live long enough to DO it! Fight the way a war is supposed to be fought and you will have your desired Hong Kong of the Middle East so fast it'll make your head spin.

Makes us all that stronger. We are here because we worked for it. We created Israel, we built, we fought for it - nobody did anything for us. That is the problem with the Arabs - they are thieves and destroyers. The only thing that they have ever built is hatred. This is one land that they are not going to steal and destroy

been content with what it had before the 6 day war. It's nonsense that adding the Westbank and Gaza has made Israel any safer on the contrary, everything points to the opposit. Maybe it's slow colonizing would have worked 2 centuries ago, but not in modern times. You can't just come back and take what once was from your ancestors just like that....That may not be fair but it's nevertheless true.

When I was in Israel I met many Arabs who wanted peace. I met Arab Christians in Hungary and when I asked where they are from, they said Israel, and not Palestine. I met loyal Muslim Arabs too. BUT! Seems they are the minority? Since Hamas rules Gaza, they are officially elected, so it must mean the majority of Arabs do not want agreements, do not want freedom fight, all they want is PAN ISLAMIC ARAB UNION so Israel must be removed completely in their opinon. They do not want 2 state solutions. This is the problem. Radical Islam destroys everything that comes to peace. :( Even if Israel kicked the settlers from Judea and Samaria, the Hamas would declare it as victory and not as a step for peace. They want our blood. We should crush their education,, and wake them up, that Islam is a false religion and they sacrefice their lives for nothing - however it is almost impossible. :((

Third Reich was 1939 the strongest world power with the most advanced military technology and started the biggest "total" war the world havn't seen before. You compare this superpower and this war with the poor, hopefully underdeveloped and occupied Palestinians? Your analogy is as sick as the comparison in the 30ties between the Jews and the "devil".

The evil that encircles Israel grows stronger by the day, and it will not changes its stripes. See North Korea and see Israel’s future in spades. Killing the Beast would have been logical years ago before it matured! Over 60,000,000 people died during WWII. Western Civiliation nearly ended because Evil was allowed to fester and metastasize. What would Hitler have if he had Atomics? “Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it”. It is written.

Over the last 10,000 years of human history exactly ZERO military have remained undefeated. It is 100% impossible for Israel to maintain its future by force, no matter what delusional talk back posters think. Israel has no "magic" weapons and the world is awash in weapons that are equal to Israel's.

after the trib, we'll be ruling and reigning w/ Christ for 1000 years and all nations of the earth will come to the New Jerusalem to worship the Lord. Zion forever! No peace until the Prince of Peace comes!

God gave all of that land to Israel; there is no 'Palestine'. :( Maranatha!