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Emily's choice
Matthew Gould
Published: 09.05.13, 11:26
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1. Legacy.
michael Pielet ,   israel   (05.09.13)
A little history lesson for the Ambassador. The Germans before and during World War 2 were engaged in a war of extermination against the Jews of Europe, wherever they could find them. Great Britain collaborated in that war of extermination by not allowing the Jews of Europe a safe refuge by preventing the Jews of Europe from entering into the land of israel, Palestine, the infamous, "white paper". After World War 2, the British did everything in its power to prevent the Jewish survivors from entering the land of Israel, the "Exodus", the d.p. camps in Cyprus, etc. Finally after doing everything in its power to prevent the creation of a Jewish state the British gave up their mandate and left the land of Israel. Mr. Ambassador you job is to improve upon that outrageous historical legacy. Go for it.
2. You overcompensates for being a Jew with anti-Israel policy
(05.09.13)
Hopefully the next ambassador won't be a Jew, and won't have the psychological complex of needing to prove his "loyalty" by kicking Jews in the face.
3. missed the boat
Avi ,   Bet Shemesh   (05.09.13)
UK ambassador to Israel says there is no contradiction between his Jewishness, loyalty to Britain.....If you truly feel this way you have missed the boat Judaism is not a religion it is a lifestyle with religious aspects.Jews are a nation and our homeland is Israel.Your words are what our enemies wish to hear .A Jew can be a Jew anywhere in the world loyal to his host nation ..you Jews dont need to be here in Israel...hope you see things differently one day
4. Please, Ambassador Gould ....
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (05.09.13)
.... resign. We know how you feel about Jewish settlements in Judea and Samaria, so don't even try playing the Jewish card with us. Just go, and take your two "sabras" with you.
5. Go for it!
michael Pielet ,   israel   (05.09.13)
The English press is one of the most anti-israeli, anti-semitic in the entire world. The English press constantly incites against israel and the Jewish people. The Ambassador should correct the lies, and fight the incitement. Great Britain is no friend to israel or the Jewish people. Mr. Ambassador the task ahead of you is great. Go for it.
6. To number 1
Shimon ,   Poleg   (05.09.13)
You missed out that part of Britain- the channel Islands was occupied by the Nazis. The British authorities there eagerly collaborated with the Nazis and gave lists of Jews to their German masters and helped to round up and send the channel Island Jews to their deaths. No doubt this would have happened in the rest of Britain had it been occupied.
7. Fixated on the Holocaust
Serge ,   Montreal, Canada   (05.09.13)
It's the 21st century. Begin looking forward.
8. HE the British Ambassador
Mordechai ,   Beit Shemesh   (05.09.13)
A perplexed fool, sounds like all the other armchair Zionists who think putting their hands in their pockets is suffice. Said it all that he ignored that his daughters are first and foremost Israelis! He had any guts he would give up the cushy job and make aliyah. The diaspora only existed because we could not get home. Now all Jews can and should.
9. Please stop already
Fred ,   Givatiyim   (05.09.13)
His wife isn't jewish so of course his children aren't either etc
10. Heroes.
michael Pielet ,   israel   (05.09.13)
Correction, the British did not voluntarily give up their mandate and leave the land of Israel. The British were forced out, throw out, by the valiant Jewish fighters who by force of arms threw the English out of our country, off of our land. Mr. Ambassador joining me in saluting those Jewish, fighters, heroes. Your two daughters, israelies, should remain with their people in israel.
11. An apology
Miche Norman ,   Hod Hasharon   (05.09.13)
Mr. Ambassador - ignore the rediculous comments of the people who have decided that moral superiority is their flag -self defined of course. Your aim is noble and you are to be congratulated upon it- there are indeed strong and important ties between Israel and the diaspora and you are forming an important link in that chain - it is wonderful that you have two sabra daughters who will always have a tie here. With so many people here who feel morally superior and seem to have heard directly from god what we are supposed to do - it si no wonder that we ned any friends that we can get. I like you grew up in England - but have since then failed the football test - the ultimate test in loyalty - when Israel played England in football I was out there waving the blue and white flag - and like many people here I have realized that any connection between the BBC and honest unbiased reporting is purely accidental. Thank you for the hard work you do in bringing our countries together depite Britain's appalling record from 70 years ago, for which you can hardly be held responible
12. Bad timing to brag about loyalty,...
split ,   US   (05.09.13)
Fiamma Nirenstein born and educated in Italy, a senior member in an Italian government, vice-president of the Committee on Foreign Affairs with high security clearance an access to classified intelligence information for years is taking off for Israel ,... In regard of those $2M you raised for Israelis and a network of cafes around Israel where the needy and lonely can meet have an access to activities and services, etc. What about your loyalty you brag about, are there any needy and lonely in Britain, let say like the vets that fought and won WWII ? ,...
13. The sordid talkbackers of YNET
Michael ,   Haifa   (05.09.13)
Had it not been for Britain fighting the Nazis, none of these talkbackers would be alive to spew their hate-ridden messages here. I believe that you are a decent man, Mr. Gould with values that put to shame your detractors here.
14. Being in politics there is absolutely NO WAY Britain's inte-
tom ,   tel aviv   (05.09.13)
rests can be equall Israel's. So for all your waxing poetic : no cigar. Schinken & Tora shall never occupy the same room.( just an anology)
15. Gould
Non-Jew ,   England   (05.09.13)
This is a man who tries to tell Israelis there is no anti-semitism problem in the UK. Hell, even I can see that there is, and I'm not even Jewish, so not on the receiving end! This is a man who gives a speech to Israelis about the 'obstacles to peace', and goes on at some length about 'settlements', but fails to mention 'rockets' even once!
16. Get the history right.
michael Pielet ,   israel   (05.09.13)
#13, Michael, you are certainly entitled to your opinion, but please get your facts right. After Dunkirk, the British were at the mercy of the Germans. German U-boats controlled the high seas. The United States under lend-lease prevented the Brits from eating grass and starving to death. The British never won a battle until the American's entered the war. My father and uncles fighting under the stars and stripes saved the British from losing the war. As the British ladies fondly said about my father and his comrades, "over sexed and over here.". Thank g-d.
17. Michael #13, a disgraceful post.
Jake   (05.10.13)
You should be ashamed of yourself, living in Haifa, to which countless Jewish refugees attempted to arrive in ships fleeing the Holocaust, only to be turned away by the British or impounded. Even while 10's of thousands of Jews from Mandate Palestine served in the British Army to to fight the Nazis, the British strictly and rigorously enforced the infamous White Paper, effectively sealing the boundaries of the Mandate to Jewish refugees, consigning countless numbers of European Jews to their deaths. In 1939 the British had imposed a limit of 75,000 Jews who could enter Palestine over the next five years (after which all further Jewish immigration would be conditional on Arab consent). In late 1942, when the Nazi program of genocide became known, only 29,000 places remained. Even with knowledge of the Holocaust, Britain held adamantly to that limit. Meanwhile, no other country was willing to take in Jewish refugees except in very small numbers. Did you forget the Struma and so many other such disasters, caused by the callous policies of the British? It is also known that bombing the Auschwitz gas chambers was technically feasible, and that neither the United States nor Britain was willing to look seriously into the possibilities, even though Allied bombers frequently struck targets near Auschwitz.
18. Get YOUR history right, #16!
Jack Klaber ,   R. Hasharon, Israel   (05.10.13)
Haven't you forgotten that "small" detail called the Battle of Brittain? Fought and decisively won by the Brittish RAF long before your father and his comrades woke up early December 1941 to join and form the allied forces with a.o. Brittain and U.S.S.R…
19. well said @ Number 13.
Sarah ,   Biser   (05.10.13)
20. A bad choice too ,...
split ,   US   (05.10.13)
A network of cafes where the needy and lonely can meet, have an access to activities and services would be greeted with gratefulness by Brits and not as a bone under the table by your fellow Jews on this forum and an excuse to accuse the Brits of all the crap in the world including collaboration with Nazis to annihilate the them ,...
21. The Battle of Britain..
michael Pielet ,   israel   (05.10.13)
The Battle of Britain where the British Air Force prevented the Luftwaffe from decisively defeating England from the air. Who broke the U-boat blockade and provided England with the munitions, equipment and foodstuffs necessary for the English to prevail in the Battle of Britain, you quessed right the United States. Outside of the Battle of Britain, the English never won a battle until the United States entered the war and truly saved the English from starvation. Ask Mr. Churchill, he will tell you. Who was the decisive force in western Europe and North Africa, it was the American army with its decisive might and resources. Without America and the Russians, England would have been vanquished and would have lost the war.
22. #16 had America helped out sooner, less people would have
(05.10.13)
died. Thats a face too Only showed interested after Japan whooped your @ss
23. 17 - Even while 10's of thousands of Jews from Mandate ,....
split ,   US   (05.10.13)
During the war the Jewish Brigade never got further north than Italy and the only Germans they 'fought' and killed were the Germans in POW camps after the war. At the time (March 1945) the Jewish Brigade was allowed to join the 8-th Army to fight the Germans in N. Italy the Germans were done, they had hardly put any resistance. It was more like a hunting for what was left of German war machine than regular battles. Two weeks after the Jewish brigade joined British 8-th Army the 4-th German Parachute Division surrounded and it looks like they didn't have a time to fight the Germans but thanks Jewish Brigade if it wasn't for you we would be still fighting Nazis in Italy ;) ,... Here're some numbers: From the date the Brigade was formed (Sept. '44) to the day they got disbanded (summer '46) The Jewish Brigade lost 32 soldiers and there's no record where and how. An another detail, there's no mention of the Jewish Brigade in the Italian Campain annals ,... It's you and your hasbara crew that's peddling your crap counting on ignorance and on censorship. That's why most of my talkbacks never see the daylight proving you're are a liarsand bull sh*t peddlers. The Brits didn't trust them, because most of the Jewish Brigade was made of Polish Jews from Anders's Army that deserted stealing everything theu could in '42 in Palestine ,...
24. #23, split the fabricator.
Jake   (05.10.13)
No annals on the Italian Campaign mention the Jewish Brigade, eh? Wonder which annal you've been looking in. I've just done a search of documents published on the topic between 1945 and 1947, and found plenty of literature, including in British military records. The Jewish Brigade was formed in July 1944 and joined the British 8th army in November 1944, not in March 1945. One of the main reasons the British gave it the green light is because they weren't making any headway in recruiting Arabs to a unitary Palestine regiment. But prior to the formation of the Jewish Brigade, there were already 15 Palestine Jewish battalions fighting in the British Army as of September 1940. They fought in a number of battles, particularly the Greek Campaign of 1941. There were also a group of Jewish commandos from Mandate Palestine who were parachuted behind enemy lines in German-occupied Europe. About 30,000 Jewish volunteers from Palestine served with the British forces during World War II. More than 700 were killed during active duty. And I haven't even touched on the subject of Jews from Canada, South Africa, Australia, and Britain itself who served in the British Army during WW2. Poor split, complaining that some his drivel and propaganda doesn't get published. Wonder what you did for a living before posting here. Writing antisemitic fiction novels?
25. split #23, Just one example
Jake   (05.10.13)
of an official WW2-era British military source mentioning the Jewish Brigade in the Italian Campaign is the "Report by the Supreme Allied Commander, Mediterranean, to the Combined Chiefs of Staff on the Italian Campaign, 12th December 1944 to 2nd May 1945".
26. #17 Jake's c*ap
Michael ,   Haifa   (05.10.13)
I repeat what I posted earlier that, despite your very limited intelligence and understanding, had it not been for the Brits, you would not be around today to write your c*ap here.
27. Munich
michael Pielet ,   israel   (05.11.13)
Real history, the Munich agreement where the British government under Chamberlain, exhibiting cowardice and appeasement of Hitler, allowed for the dismemberment of Czechloslovokia. All for peace in our time. Hitler could have been stopped in the 1930's. Thje British ignored Churchill's warnings and preferred appeasement and surrender..
28. The Nazis Lost?
Tom ,   Columbus. USA   (05.10.13)
On the ground in Israel, and its "possessions," its pretty clear that the Nazis did win at some level. They seem to have succeeded in liquidating the historical ethical humanism that for thousands of years defined Jewish culture. The segregationist, exclusivist, Zionist security state to which Gould refers resembles nothing more than an aping of the worst tropes of European culture from the 15th to 21st centuries. Those very tropes the Nazis took to their unspeakable extremes. Stand in the ruins of a demolished Palestinian village and tell the world "This is the victory of Jewishness." Seriously?
29. #28 IsThe Best Reason for a Jewish State
HateSpringsEternally ,   Jerusalem Israel   (05.11.13)
30. #28
Charlie   (05.11.13)
He most probably gets his "information" from the same fount as the theoretical astrophysicist Stephen Hawking did ;(Noam Chompsky apparently). Of course that would satisfy his beliefs which the facts and context would tarnish.
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