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Emily's choice
Matthew Gould
Published: 09.05.13, 11:26
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31. Jewish ambassador
Charlei   (05.11.13)
He said all the correct things and covered his side from critics of Israel for being Jewish, but the question remains whether he will use his Jewishness as a cover for actions that might be on a par with that devout British Jew Samuels who in the early part of the last century created so much future grief, in his actions on behalf of foreign policy without thought for the Jews of Europe and Arab lands.
32. 24/25 - Do your homework pal ,...
split ,   US   (05.12.13)
"July 3, 1944, the British government consented to the establishment of a Jewish Brigade." ,... "On September 20, 1944, an official communique by the War Office announced the formation of the Jewish Brigade Group of the British Army and the Jewish Brigade Group headquarters was established in Egypt at the end of September 1944" ,... "The brigade group took part in the final offensive*** (6 April 1945 – 2 May 1945) fighting there against the German 4th Parachute Division commanded by Generalleutnant Trettner". German 4th Parachute Division fought at Nettuno, Florence, Rimini and Bologna and surrendered to the Allies in April 1945". Like I have noted and repeat there's no mention of the Jewish Brigade in the Italian Campaign annals to confirm it Google "15th Army Group","Italian Campaign", "Spring 1945 offensive in Italy" and check the list of participants listed by nationalities and units and show us where you see Jewish Brigade, not to mention that they had to promote and appoint a Canadian officer of alleged Jewish birth to run this show because among those from Palestine there was no one qualified to lead a Brigade. Also, google "Jewish Brigade" on Wiki to compare the amount of bull sh*t and a factual info about the brigade on that page, a real piece of Jewish BS peddling craftsmanship I have to admit. You folks are good at running your mouth and abusing defenseless sheepherders not at fighting German or any real soldier. Here's one example of your inflated ego, pretentious self-congratulating attitude, big time bragging and not a shred of evidence to support this crap ,... "‘We Proved to the World That we can Fight’; Veterans Attend a Special Showing in Tel Aviv of Chuck Olin’s Award-winning Documentary About the Outstanding all-Jewish Brigade that Helped Defeat Hitler". Paraszczuk, Joanna (2010). *** according to wiki in regard to Jewish Brigade posted and edited by Jews, but not included or mentioned in 15th Army Group, 8-th Army, Italian Campaign annals or any respected historical sources, hmm ;) ,...
33. With Great Respect
Zechariah   (05.12.13)
With great respect to the Ambassador and his pride the role is pretty protocol driven maybe trade policy floats but not the Power is in the Armory and the Morale Cunning of its Soldiery.The Hunter Gatherer rules but needs a cook and a shelter also .
34. A lot of Jewish Warriors
Zechariah   (05.12.13)
A lot of Jewish Warriors fought the Nazis Women too Take Polina Gelman the Russian Jewish Bomber Pilot awarded the Order of Lenin after her heroic death and quite a few generals officers t34 tank drivers and infantry many captured and killed with their fellow Russians starved to death two million plus.
35.  32. 24/25 - Do your homework pal ,...
Charlie   (05.12.13)
Maybe you be the one to stop peddling BS if you'd consider the Jewish soldiers from Palestine in the catual British Army; For example: Read about the The Special Interrogation Group (SIG) which was a British Army unit of German-speaking Jewish volunteers from Palestine. The SIG performed commando and sabotage operations against the Nazis in the Western Desert during WWII.
36. 34 - Polina Gelman the Russian Jewish Bomber Pilot ,...
split ,   US   (05.12.13)
More hasbara crap - After repeated disqualifications to join the bomber squadron she barely made as an auxiliary navigator ,... "awarded the Order of Lenin after her heroic death" - Nothing compare to the tons of medals featured by ynet's report 'Knesset honors Red Army veterans', by the way she died of old age in 2005 in Moscow ,... Gosh, can you folks bread without bragging ??? ,...
37. #35 ,...
split ,   US   (05.13.13)
So, now after the Jewish Brigade myth got busted you're trying to peddle some Jewish translators as the heroes that won WWII? No luck pal, after Rommel's defeat my dad was one of those fluent German speaking Poles (born in Pomerania) from Carpathian Brigade unit that was assigned to pick the hiding SS officers in convoys of German POW on the way to Benghazi,... Surfing for "Jewish Brigade" on Wiki I noted the amount of bull sh*t designated to mud the pond and a factual info. The famous Jewish Brigade that was supposedly created to fight the Nazis got two pages of hasbera crap and ONE (1) vague sentence on their engagement with Nazis in 8 Army with no details, nothing to look for and to confirm, a real masterpiece of hasbara BS peddling skills for ignorants and idiots you think we all are forgetting that we're just a few clicks away to check your crap ,... By the way the alleged Jewish Canadian officer appointed to lead the Jewish Brigade happen to be mentioned ONLY in Wiki under 'Jewish Brigade' (a material posted and edited by Jews) and nowhere else. Tell me how come I can find everything about any Jewish schmuck on Internet and nothing about famous Jewish Brigade's commander Ernest Benjamin? ,...
38. #35 ,...
split ,   US   (05.13.13)
"The SIG performed commando and sabotage operations against the Nazis in the Western Desert during WWII" - Again one vague sentence, no details where and when only in Jewish sources and nothing to support it anywhere else. Google Polish Independent Carpathian Brigade to see what I'm talking about where you can find a record of every battle and an engagement during WWII.
39. Anglo-Israel
Sherlock Holmes ,   London England   (05.13.13)
Of all Diaspora communities, British Jews have always had the closest ties to Israel. Americans are physically too far to have their second homes in Israel and Britain of course had the League of Nations Mandate for Palestine which led to a Jewsh state modeled on Britain's uwritten constitution. Like Britain, Israel has a neutral head of state, a parliamentary system of govt, an established religion and an independent judiciary. Like Britain, Judaism in Israel is mainly Orthodox. And of course most Israelis study English as one of Israel's three oficial languages.
40. #39, That is incorrect.
Jake   (05.13.13)
"Of all Diaspora communities, British Jews have always had the closest ties to Israel." That of course, your opinion, not necessarily born out by the facts. It can be argued convincinly that the American, Canadian, Australian, South African, and even French Jewish communities have a closer relationship to Israel than do the British Jews. "And of course most Israelis study English as one of Israel's three oficial languages." English is not one of Israel's official languages. In 1950, English was removed by the Israel from the list of Israel's official languages, which had previously been set up by the British during the Mandate. English is studied in Israel, just like everywhere else in the world, because of its current importance as an international and business language.
41. #32, split, you offer no documentation
Jake   (05.13.13)
to refute what I said. Just your own polemics. The sources past and present all include the Jewish Brigade as part of the British 8th Army, Corps X, during the Italian Campaign, a fact which you yourself have conceded. They served together with the free Italian Friuli Combat Group, the Indian 10th Infantry Division, and others, under John Hawkesworth, against the Gothic Line. I have cited an official British military source from 1945 that explicilty mentions the Jewish Brigade as part of the British 8th Army during the Italian Campaign. The Life Magazine edition of April 16, 1945 says in an article on the Italian Campaign (pg. 79), and I quote: "Fighting side by side in Italy today are Americans (including the Negro 92nd Division), English, Canadians, New Zealanders, Indians, Poles Brazilians, Italians and a newly activated Jewish brigade flying the flag of Palesine." You have also neglected the fact that there were 15 Jewish battalions recruited from Mandate Palestine in the British Army from September 1940, four years prior to the formation of the Jewish Brigade. They fought in the Greek campaign of 1941.
42. Jake @ 41 ,...
split ,   US   (05.14.13)
Because there's none, pinhead except the one on wiki I mentioned, posted and edited by Jews - Some obscure book published in '45 with the print run of few hundred that's unavailable in my county's library system to check it or article from that time probably written by one of your homies is not a documented proof, the annals are. I provided you a key words to find them and check it if you're right. I'm not saying that the Brigade didn't exist but I'm challenging it's alleged contribution in Italian Campaign you brag about and the fact that the historical annals didn't bother to note it. Needless to mention they're absent on liberators stage as well as their flag and banner on annual liberation ceremony in Rome. It looks like those darn Italians don't appreciate your efforts and your heroes too ,... By the way what's obvious looking at other Jewish sources on this subject that the content or excerpts are identical like the one you can find on Wiki.
43. #42, split, you know that is not true
Jake   (05.14.13)
Every year a delegation representing the Jewish Brigade participates in the annual parade in Rome marking the WW2 liberation of Italy. They march with the Israeli flag and Jewish Brigade banner, and every year they are attacked by a group of pro-palestinian demonstrators. This year, a small group of pro-palestinian demonstrators waving communist and palestinian flags and bearing a portrait of Yasser Arafat tried to prevent the Jewish Brigade group representative from speaking at the commemorative ceremony.
44. 43 ,...
split ,   US   (05.14.13)
They walk with others on the streets just like anyone who wishes to but they're not invited to share the liberators podium or microphone - At least this year found someone to blame to. A small group of pro-palestinian demonstrators prevented 60 million Italians to express their gratitude to their Jewish liberators ;) ,... The campaign where 835 000 troops on both sides and 150 000 civilians lost their life the number of 30 Jewish brigade casualties speaks for itself - A little dose of modesty wouldn't hurt ,...
45. Correction ,...
split ,   US   (05.15.13)
it was suppose to be a 835 000 casualties and 110 000 dead among the troops on both sides plus 150 000 civilians that lost their life during campaign ,...
46. Correction to 44 ,...
split ,   US   (05.15.13)
it was suppose to be a 835 000 casualties including 110 000 dead among the troops on both sides plus 150 000 civilians that lost their life during campaign compared with number of 30 dead in Jewish brigade allegedly during 6 months in bloody hell ,...
47. split #44, again, diverting from the point
Jake   (05.16.13)
The Jewish Brigade was only a tiny microcosm of Jewish participation in the War effort. It was established late in the war, and the 5000 Jews who served in it and 32 dead were only a fraction of the total amount of Palestine Jews who fought and died fighting in the British Army in WW2. Jewish volunteers from Palestine served in about 15 Jewish regiments in the British Army from September 1940, as well as special commando units and espionage cells. About 40,000 Jews from Mandate Palestine served in the British Army throughout the War, and nearly 700 Jews from Mandate Palestine were killed in active duty. There were a total of about 1.5 million Jews who fought in the regular Allied armies in WW2; in many cases the percentage of Jews fighting was greater than the percentage of Jews in the general population. About a quarter of a million Jewish soldiers fell in battle with the enemy. 500,000 Jewish soldiers fought in the Red Army; 120,000 were killed in combat in the line of duty. More than 160,000 earned citations. 550,000 Jewish soldiers fought in the US Armed Forces, on all fronts. Some 10,000 were killed in combat and more than 36,000 received citations. Many Jewish soldiers took part in liberating the camps. 100,000 Jews fought in the Polish army against the German invasion. They made up 10% of the Polish army, equivalent to their percentage of the general Polish population. 30,000 Polish Jews fell in battle; 11,000 in the defense of Warsaw. 62,000 Jews from the UK (excluding British territories and dominions) fought in the British Army, and 2,763 were killed in action. And, if you are going to count the number of civilians who died during the Italian Campaign, how about citing the 'small detail' of 7,500 Italian Jews who were victims of the Holocaust...not to mention the 6 million Jews murdered by the Nazis and their collaborators.
48. 47 - You can take this crap and shove it ,...
split ,   US   (05.16.13)
100,000 Jews in the Polish army? In 1939 Poland's armed forces number including Navy was around 330.000 - Out of 3.5 million Jews in pre WWII Poland 3.3 million were Orthodox Jews, they didn't serve or fight, the remaining 200.000 was made like every society of old folks, women, children, disable, unable, disqualified, etc. More than half of them have found themselves in Soviet part of occupied Poland, large number of Jewish commies caught in German occupied zone took off to Soviet side, but if Yad Vashem says so it must be true ,... Out of 16.5 million of total USAF in WWII engaged personnel, 550.000 were Jews? ,... Out of 4.7 million Jewish population in '42 counting old folks, women, children, disable, orthodox, unable, disqualified, etc ? - but if Yad Vashem says so ;) ,...
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