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Rabbis: Protest against Women of Wall
Kobi Nachshoni
Published: 07.06.13, 07:49
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1. According to this article
Israeli 2   (06.07.13)
those Haredim should really get off their high horses immediately. Only thugs and gangsters threatening women in this manner: "We will no longer practice restraint. We will re-liberate the Western Wall." Price tags and threats make those Haredim the scum of the Earth.
2. Israeli 2?
Yehuda ,   Ashdod, ISRAEL   (06.07.13)
You are obviously looking to bash Haredim. Did you read the article? (Can you read?) It says the the Chief Rabbis received threatening letters in favor of WOW. Perhaps the WOW supporters are thugs and gangsters!
3. "loyal to the original Jewish tradition" Get a history book!
Paqid Yirmeyahu ,   netzarim.co.il   (06.07.13)
Originally, what is now the Kotel Plaza was a street for everyone, including gentiles. In fact, gentiles were permitted up into the Beit ha-Miqdash Complex as far as the soreg (a 1meter tall stone fence just outside the Beit-haMiqdash proper -- on which was posted the warnings that gentiles could proceed no closer. Constructively and implicitly trading away the Holy Mount to Yishmaeil and the Islamic Waqf for the Kotel Plaza is a brazen violation of Torah led by the rabbis in order to have a place to exercise their power. It is inevitable that Yishmaeil will recognize the Kotel Plaza as the only legitimate place for "the Jews." The rabbis have already fallen into Yishmaeil's trap. Stop drinking the Zombie juice and read some real-world Jewish history. This violation of Torah of Biblical proportions is the result of the Ultra-Orthodox rejection of learning history, science and logic.
4. Why wow do this?
(06.07.13)
First, it is simply a synagogue. Second, wow belong to reform Jews who want to give Eastern Jerusalem to Arabs (they tell it everywhere in USA). Finally, the most important place to us, Jews, is the Temple Mount. If wow want to do something good for all Jew they can retake the Tample Mount. Then they will be able to do their thing there and claim that they liberated the Temple Mount. The haredim wouldn't have choice. Otherwise, their intent looks very fishhy, from our (IsraelyIsraeli) point of view.
5. #2: When I read the article before it did
Israeli 2   (06.07.13)
not have any of what is now such as: "if the Women of the Wall are not allowed to pray according to our ways and custom, we will fight you with all measures, and you will return home with 100 bodies of haredim." It was quite the opposite. I am NOT a Haredi basher. I was appalled of what I read previously, hence my comments.
6. I am afraid WOW get free publicity..
ORA ,   JERUSALEM   (06.07.13)
by the Haredim themselves.
7. Better let them get on with it
Mark ,   London, UK   (06.07.13)
Leave the religious ones to squabble between themselves and leave the rest of us free to get on with our lives. Better than causing trouble elsewhere.
8. Thousand Of American Men Protest Allowing Blacks In ...
World Citizen ,   the world   (06.07.13)
Public Swimming Pools, Theaters, and Restaurants. 1940s American Segregation 21st Century Israeli Segregation It's the same thing. Why does a so-called Western democratic society let an fundamentalist religion dictate the laws of the country. Israel cannot and will never be considered a civilised country as long as it lets a dogmatic 18th century Eastern European thinking Rabbinate run things.
9. World citizen?
Jo jo   (06.07.13)
The Kotel is not "Public Swimming Pools, Theaters, and Restaurants". Try saying Kaddish on the Temple Mount, try singing hatikva in the church of the holy sepchulre. The WOW are fundemetally wrong for viewing the Kotel as a national historical site and not a sanctified spot. Pluralism has its limits - and causing offence is one of them.
10. The western-wall is the remenance of
World Watcher2   (06.07.13)
a Roman project managed by Roman appointee Harold. No actual proof there was first temple.
11. Haredi fascism must be destroyed. WOW will beat'm senseless.
Michael ,   California, USA   (06.07.13)
12. Isn't The Separation Of Men and Women ....
World Citizen ,   the world   (06.07.13)
Relatively A New Idea In Orthodox Judaism? In so much as this is a wall and not a temple?
13. Women praying with prayer shawls and phylacteries
(06.07.13)
is a violation of "local custom" and a "provocation". It's evident.
14. A plague on both their houses
Michael ,   Haifa   (06.08.13)
What a ridiculous expediture of energy over a wall
15. 10 Photos of First Temple foundations were published in BAR
Historian ,   Israel   (06.08.13)
Biblical Archeology Review -- BEFORE the Arabs bulldozed them away, which BAR also documented. Your propaganda house is built on sand -- and lies.
16. Ban the followers of the Hasidic religion
Taxpayer ,   Hod Hasharon   (06.08.13)
Timeto ban the followers of thehasidic religion from Judaism's holiest site if they cannot stop desecrating it with their paganistic anti-Jewish protests
17. 6m Jews Died to Worhip as they Please
Noah Lev ,   Los angeles, USA   (06.09.13)
To Michael: porno in the USA is a matter of local custom, its accepted on local custom, which varies. This entire conflict between some secular women and the ultra...is eroding Israel from within, just as the summer protests.. While back in Rome, Hez is surrounding northern Israel, Syrias jury is still out, Egypts MB is flourishing, the US has a security team of dopes, Iran is close to a bomb, and Israel fights within. I think about the 500,000 Hungarian Jews slaughtered in 6weeks in Auschwitz...and1.4m chldren shot dead or burned. to have a place of refuge.would have been a miracle .Israel is a mess,and its people dysfunctional with silliness. If the ultra dont like their paractices..dont show up. Let them rule in their temples....and allow others tthe freedom of worship, which was denied to Jews in Hitlers Europe. You want toprotest, protest tghe ban on Kosher food in parts of Eyuopre......The ultra have it too god and are abusing their new found power.."My way or the highway"
18. Israel's Divisions Are Killing It
Noah Lev ,   LosAngelesUSA   (06.09.13)
One asks, isnt the separation a new innovation? Just where is this in our Torah or other literature?When did it start, where? 4m secular Jews and 2m Orthodox in theUSA have somewhat diferent practices and customs...but we areall Jews, like it or not ( jut scratch a goy hard). Israel is the the 4th most hated country on the planet ..just because it defends itself ( better hated than in a coffen I say). Jews arent supposed to fight..just lie still and be gassed or shot. Let your children be experi mented upon. That is the Jewish way, forgetting the biblical heroes and 1m Jews who did fight during ww2. This latest internal conflict is a tragedy...similar to the summer protest over cheese price supports and pre nursery school stipends. Surronded by 22 Arab countries , T urkey and Iran...with nuke potentiasl, and thisw is allowed to flare up and continue. Let the ultra pra yas they wish in their temples..and the public pray as they wih elsewhere.The wall is not a temple guys. The Arab presence has nothing to do with the instant problem besides.
19. These Women are Very Wrong
Tova ,   Canada   (06.14.13)
GOD commanded the Men to head of the households. The Priests of Israel. Not Women. - They command to take care of the house as the Levites were the guardians of the temple. these Women don't realize their actions do not make them equal to men. Women should pray and must pray as women not men. These women are not interested in pray. Most of these women do it from a feminist preseptive. This is a example of the stupid women liberation. The torah doesn not allow women to wear prayer shawls. Sorry Women but this nonsense will only make life miserable for you.
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