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MK Eichler on Kaniuk: Why mourn a Jew hater?
Moran Azulay
Published: 11.06.13, 10:30
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31. To: No. 28
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (06.11.13)
You would be wrong; all counts. The State of Israel funds all things for these leeches. Where did Mr. Eichler serve in the IDF? Please enlighten me! Who bought his armored vehicle? Does he pay taxes (the answer, dear, is no, he does not). Got anything else to contribute, "Real Estate" investor? How much do YOU gauge from prospective home-buyers who are not Chassidim? Don't bother answering. I KNOW the answer.
32. #26 Sarah B
Ed Ford ,   Tel Aviv, Israel   (06.11.13)
You location is listed as USA/Israel, which is it? It's a bit ludicrous to be talking about paying rent if you are one of those people who live in the US and have an un-occupied apartment in Israel. Beyond this, the subsidies they receive are something like NIS 250 a month. Im not Haredi and we get NIS 155 a month (we have 3 kids). Why don't you try studying a subject before spewing out your ignorant rants.
33. TO#21
Ari Gold ,   Brooklyn   (06.11.13)
That's a matter of your opinion. Israel exist because of human help and U.S. as allies. So leave God out of this.
34. Kadish against his will
EM ,   Ra'anana   (06.11.13)
Kaniuk decided to live without religion...and promoted separation between state and religion. We can assume that he wanted to die as an Israeli, not a Jew. Whether one agrees with Kaniuk's choices or not, the Chief Rabbi should find other issues to worry about. Organizing someone to say Kaddish for Kaniuk throughout the year is similar to the Mormon's baptizing Jewish souls.
35. Good man he donate 70 kg garbage to sience
NATAN ,   ISRAEL   (06.11.13)
36. Eichler and his thugs
JDE ,   Boston, USA   (06.11.13)
"Is this Jewish culture? Is this a Jewish state?" Funny; I ask myself the same question every time Haredim stage a riot, or throw rocks and diapers at passersby, of spit and hurl chairs at Women of the Wall. Meanwhile, Kaniuk the "Jew hater" fought for Israel's independence. What have Eichler and his parasites done other than drain Israel's resources, foster a culture of entitlement and cause resentment within the wider Israeli populace? And Sarah, permit me to say, along with everyone else, "Right on."
37. For fools thinking this is an issue of religion think again!
Alex   (06.11.13)
He didn't want to renounce his religion, he renounced his Jewish heritage. I'm not religious myself but the self-loathred of Kaniuk makes me nauseaus.
38. Shame
Avramele   (06.11.13)
Is this how we treat a Palmachnik who helped create the literature of modern Israel! May his memory be a blessing and his works endure.
39. helped shape the Israeli ethos
Larry ,   Los Angeles   (06.11.13)
Good grief Charlie Brown, helped shape the Israeli ethos? what ethics? Gay parade, slut parade, gay MONTH of this unethical behavior? The secular Israeli has degenerated into a copy of the lowest form of American liberal scum!
40. Graphic demonstration of ignorance.
Northern   (06.11.13)
Yoram Kaniuk was a truly brilliant man. Not necessarily for his works, but for his political position. This man was a true secular humanist, who understood that state and religion can never be merged. He felt that the state should not have a database with people's religions in it. He knew that religion was a personal, private matter, and a matter of belief, not an accident of birth. Yet, from all the negative talkbacks in various media outlets, there's so much hatred for him. They hate him more than they hate leftists. They use the most degrading terms to describe a man who simply made a personal choice. Terms like 70kg of garbage and the like. This is just a graphic demonstration how the ignorant, religious masses always hate the best and the brightest. For them, the most enlightened people, with humanist, pluralistic values, that see past local superstitions and tribalism, are terrible horrible traitors. For shame.
41. Never read a word of Kaniuk but Eichler knows to hate!
miki ,   tampa   (06.11.13)
42. MK Eichler is right about Kaniuk
Alex   (06.11.13)
Kaniuk was a self-hater who would go lenghts to remove his Jewish-ness by every action, only Vananu is a bigger self-hater
43. #1
Alex   (06.11.13)
Your comment doesn't make sense, Kaniuk didn't just want to stop being religious he wanted to remove his status as Jewish altogether. There are millions of non-religious Jews both in Israel and all over the world, they don't renounce their Jewish status or heritage, THAT'S what Kaniuk did. There's no clearer definition of a self-hater.
44. Number 31
Onlooker   (06.11.13)
Does mr eichler pay taxes? Of course he does because the government knows exactly what he's earning since he is employed by them!!! I don't gauge anything from home buyers.....that's because nothing I own is for sale!!! I employ people to collect collect the rent for me and place it in my bank account. if i had you as a tenant I would sell but thankfully all my tenants are decent people.
45. I love everyone
Avi ,   BELGIUM   (06.11.13)
Religious and non religious, ahskenazi, temani, sefaradi.. what does it matter.. in the end for the enemies like Hitler it didn't make a difference if u cancelled your religioun, if your only 0,0001 % related to being Jewish he would kill you, so guys remember to love one another. Let's do a FREE HUGS WEEK all over Israel and Hug everyone!! :-) Peace and love
46. SHAME ON YOU
Sem ,   Amsterdam   (06.11.13)
You as a religious person should set an example, instead of hate mongering. Shame on you.
47. The great Jew Hater is alive
Taxpayer ,   Hod Hasharon   (06.11.13)
The greatest hater of Jews in Israel - the Ayatollah Yosef is alive - so there is no reason to celebrate yet
48. #39 Larry
JDE ,   Boston   (06.11.13)
"The secular Israeli has degenerated into a copy of the lowest form of American liberal scum! " Larry, you're one of the biggest shoites on this site. Every one of your comments is an example of right wing frum idiocy.
49. What proof does Eichler possess that
J.K. ,   Brooklyn USA   (06.11.13)
God is a haredi ?.it's more likely, that God is a free thinker like Kaniuk,and it seems that God prefers free thinkers over haredim,between 33-45 assimilated Jews had a better chance to save themselves from the Germans than haredi Jews,as Rabbi C Darwin said : Adapt or perish.
50. Sem, the shame is religion
Proud self hater ,   Israel   (06.11.13)
Just look around you and see where all the hate comes from: you got it! It's the self-righteous priests (and their blind followers). They can be Muslim, Christian or Jewish but the one thing they all have in common is intolerance and hate. That's why fed up people like me have opted for humanism over religious belief and really, what venom-filled inadequate creatures like Eichler and his ilk think or say about me being a "self hater" is really of no consequence whatsoever.
51. 49
Northern   (06.11.13)
Or perhaps, and it is my opinion, that there's no such thing as God, at all.
52. 51 Northern.How did the Universe come
J.K. ,   Brooklyn USA   (06.11.13)
into being ?.it's a big mystery,that will never be solved,one thing for sure, there is no such a thing as a religious God,only the prophets of Israel came the closest to the devine ideas,equality before the law,help for the poor,protection of the widow and orphan,those devine ideas were abolished and replaced by religion created by kings and priests and mullas ,and are responsible for all the bloodshed in history, to this very day.
53. 48 We don't see things as they are...
ORA ,   JERUSALEM   (06.12.13)
but as we are.
54. 53 ORA.True,we have created a God in
J.K. ,   Brooklyn USA   (06.12.13)
our own image.
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