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What Obama can (and should) do about Iran
David Meyers
Published: 19.06.13, 10:39
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1. Actually, Obama has made the "hard decision."
spyguy ,   Seattle   (06.19.13)
Obama has realized that IF (note the BIG IF) Iran wants nuclear weapons, they will get them and no amount of throwing bombs at them will change that. Obama understands the American public has ZERO desire to have their lives endangered by a needless war with Iran, so he will just keep a lid on Israel (who does not have the military capability to do anything more than make lots of people angry). Israelis had better get used to the idea of a powerful Iran because there is NOTHING Israel or the US can do. If Israelis are all fired up to ruin their country, then go ahead and attack on your own, otherwise listen to the IDF leaders that say don't attack Iran. Israel has reached the limits of its military belligerence.
2. IRAN, U.S., ON A CERTAIN LAND-PART OF OUR PLANET EARTH.
SJOERD VAN DER VELDE ,   OUR PLANET EARTH   (06.19.13)
THAT ISSUE CAN BE SOLVED, (UNI-LATERALLY), BI-LATERNALLY, MULTI-LATERALLY, INTER-NATIONALLY, TRANS-NATIONALLY AND SUPRA-NATIONALLY, ON OUR PLANET EARTH, WITH A PEOPLE. HEALTH, SECURITY AND PEACE FOR US AND THE REST OF THE HUMAN PEOPLE.
3. Obama has confessed himself to be a Muslim !.
Arn. ,   Sweden.   (06.19.13)
I Quote - Iran's alleged Hadith: "Before the Mahdi, a tall black man will command the world's strongest army." In 2008 a pro-Irainian Web site published a Hadith (or tradition) from a Shiite text of the 17th century that states just before the return of the Mahdi, the Ultimate Saviour, a "tall black man will assume the reins of government in the West." Commanding "the strongest army on earth," I don't believe this stuff but the issue is that THEY do. Is Barack Obama the "promised warrior" coming to help the Hidden Imam of Shiite Muslims conquer the world? The question has made the rounds in Iran since last month, when a pro-government Web site published a Hadith (or tradition) from a Shiite text of the 17th century. The tradition comes from Bahar al-Anvar (meaning Oceans of Light) by Mullah Majlisi, a magnum opus in 132 volumes and the basis of modern Shiite Islam. According to the tradition, Imam Ali Ibn Abi-Talib (the prophet's cousin and son-in-law) prophesied that at the End of Times and just before the return of the Mahdi, the Ultimate Saviour, a "tall black man will assume the reins of government in the West." Commanding "the strongest army on earth," the new ruler in the West will carry "a clear sign" from the third imam, whose name was Hussein Ibn Ali. The tradition concludes: "Shiites should have no doubt that he is with us." In a curious coincidence Obama's first and second names--Barack Hussein--mean "the blessing of Hussein" in Arabic and Persian. His family name, Obama, written in the Persian alphabet, reads O Ba Ma, which means "he is with us," the magic formula in Majlisi's tradition. Comment - Iran will not take any threath seriously ! Arn.
4. Obama is a pantywaist
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (06.19.13)
Israel has stopped paying attention to his meaningless blather long ago. He's uninformed, not particularly intelligent, and entirely inept. Old news. As ever, Israel must look to itself. And civilization will reap the benefit. Would be nice if they were to stop and thank us for pulling their chestnuts out of the coals. Just once. So, who is the superpower now?
5. There you have it!
Jake Stone ,   USA   (06.19.13)
Obama, at best, is an inept, community organizer that, somehow,fooled a lot of ignorant people to get the most powerful job in the free-world. The only thing this punk ever had to worry about was how to lie and falsify his personal records. Now, the world is finally seeing just how much this clown is way over his head! Great leaders' make the difficult decisions when the clock is ticking-down; when allies' need their courage and commitment to a just cause, and to see, whatever actions taken, that endeavor through. Israel suffers because of a coward in the White House; a once-trusted-friend (US) is no more. It breaks my heart to realize our friend (Israel) stands alone, because of the cowardice of a leader who doesn't know how to lead! A closet Muslim who hates Israel! With all that said, there is a silver-lining: Israel need not put their trust in a weak, failed-leader; they need only to turn back to God who has always been Israel's source of true strength and eternal truth! God bless Israel and His Jerusalem!!! A Christian Zionist
6. The "program" shouldn't be delayed, it must be deleted!
tom ,   tel aviv   (06.19.13)
Not a chance that will happen while Obama is occupying the White House.
7. #6 - How, exactly, do you propose to do that?
spyguy ,   Seattle   (06.19.13)
in a way that will not get Israel severely damaged and the US economy destroyed? What do you think will happen the day after Israel attacks Iran? I find it amusing how most of the people that post here advocate bombing Iran and have no clue as to what will happen within a few days. Do you really think Iran will just surrender? If you think that you are just flat out delusional. Iran will fight back, HARD and make the life of every Israeli and every American very, very bad. Attacking Iran will cause massive problems in Israel and the US very quickly. Your hubris will get you killed.
8. #7 Very easy
Ed ,   Canada   (06.19.13)
It is not hubris. It's called protecting yourself. Hopefully, Iran will stop the nuclear program soon so nothing of this is needed. But if it doesn't Israel can take care of it with the US or without. Iran may fight back with a bunch of missiles. So what? A large fraction will fall apart on the way. We've seen their photoshopped stealth fighter, and the vertical takeoff plane that was actually a Japanese undergraduate project. Some missiles will fall on Jordan or into the sea. And a few will hit some buildings in Israel, while most people are in shelters. Hezlballah will shoot a few rockets too - that's it. The main point is that whatever happens is much better than a nuclear bomb. So the hell with their "fight back hard". No one cares about that. And if something really bad happens for what ever reason. Well, my friend, in that case 400 thermonuclear warheads can take care of that too.
9. #1 because of "powerful Iran" its people are almost starving
Ed ,   Canada   (06.19.13)
This pointless "powerful Iran" agenda is what got Iran to where it is now. People there are starting to realize they don't want "powerful Iran". They want prices of food to stop doubling every week. And they don't need "powerful Iran" because they have no enemies really. And Israel is and will be powerful. Not because it likes to be powerful, but because it must - thanks to all its neighbors attempting to destroy it once a decade. So talk all you want, but Iran will not have nuclear weapons. There are many options Israel has to take care of that, regardless of how angry some people will get.
10. #5
An American Citizen ,   Washington DC   (06.19.13)
Yes, please do go on about how Barack Obama is the enemy of Israel, despite how his administration gave the IDF GBU-28 bombs (something that even the Bush administration wouldn't do) and contributed even more funding to the Iron Dome system. Yes, truly a hater of Israel there.
11. #7 - Sure, Iran Will Counter-attack But...
Ron ,   Seattle USA   (06.19.13)
what happens after Iran fires all its missiles. The US has such enormous industrial and military depth that we can make weapons almost as fast as we can use them. Iran would face unending punishment.
12. #1 epiphanies
israel israeli ,   tel aviv   (06.19.13)
Obama has realized that he was an idiot for supporting Ahmadinejad against the Green Revolution. Obama realizes he critically damaged American interests by spending four years attacking Israel and ignoring Iran nukes. He realizes that betting on the whole anti-American group including Morsi, Assad, Hezbollah, Fatah, Hamas and Erdogan just because they hate Israel was stupid. Obama also realizes it is too late for Israel to neutralize Iranian nukes. He just learned in Ireland that his stupidest move was refusing to work with the Russians on peace, instead lying to Putin about Libya. In summary, Obama realized that Chicago-style backstabbing politics and positive discrimination get you elected to President, but don't actually help when you have to achieve anything.
13. # 11, Iran't counter attack
Ivan ,   Moscow   (06.19.13)
After Israel has had it's strike, (and assuming Egypt and Turkey haven't taken the oppostunity to attack it while the entire IDF Airforce is over Iran), then Iran retaliates. What can they do? This - mine the Gulf and close it to all oil shipping. Missiles fire at any tankers. Missile strikes at the Saudi & Kuwati oil fe ields, followed by land invation of 500,000 troops into Kuwait. Global oil prices might go up at this. Iran has 4,000 Rep Guards plus Hezbholla in Syria. They fire Syrian chemical & bio weapons into Israel, as Lebannon fires the 50,000 rockets at North Israel and the oil platforms. Syrian forces loyal to Assad drive 200,000 civilian Sunni refugees from rebel areas into and over the Golan, either flooding Israel with thousands of refugees or forceing them to stop them by force at the border. If they are stopped, Assad's troops pen them on the Golan, leaving them to starve on Israel's doorstep, which the arab world blames Israel for. Finally, Russia condemed Israel, makes a formal alliance with both Iran & Iraq, and stations it's troops with nuclear missiles on both nations 'to dereter further agression'. Togeather with Assad and Hez, Russia now dominated much of the Middle East, and with the devistation of the Saudi Oil fields, controls much of the world oil. So go on Israel, strike, and just see what could happen :)
14. Hear it from another Jewish warmonger who...
Persian CAT   (06.19.13)
would like to fight Iran to the last American soldiers, but he cant come out and say it. The good news is there are many sane Israelis who would not buy such nonsense. Iran's non-existing nukes are not threatening anyone. Israel's "secret" nukes ARE.
15. @ 4
Sheik rattle & roll ,   USA   (06.19.13)
There you go again with your meaningless dribble. The bottom line is America will not fight another war in the middle east unless it is overtly attacked. You have been talking so much smack about Israel attacking Iran it is almost comical to read your post, however the real reason Israel won't attack Iran is because it lacks strategic depth and that's a fact. You fail to realize one B-1, B-2, B-52 bomber is equivalent to 40 F-15, F-16's and the US has hundreds of those bombers that can strike 10,000 targets in 96 hours anywhere in the world if the order is given, so attacking is easy, but what comes next? That is the million dollar question. Will Americans be willing to pay 8 dollars a gallon of gas like the Israeli's already do. We don't heard around in little small Mazda 3's like sheep. We need room to stretch our ball sacks lol and sometimes it can take days to ship product by truck from a port, so who will absorb that fuel surcharge. Will Israel the superpower offer us loan guarantees or protect us in the UN? Will Israel offer us free military aid? I don't think the Israeli superpower will offer us any protection what so ever.
16. re: Sarah If Israel is the superpower, why......
Cali Lib ,   Los Angeles, USA   (06.19.13)
doesn't it attack? Why do you want us to do it? Are you a bunch of cowards? Should we hold your hands? Israel seems very capable of attacking countries with dilapidated armies like Syria, why don't they attack Iran??? You seen to be very anti-american for someone who has the audacity to say you come from the states. Thank God you made aliyah, we're better off because of it.
17. Obama's decision re: Iran
(06.19.13)
What logical reason allows Israel to possess over 300 nuclear weapons, but Israel/US does not want to allow Iran to possess any? The Israel vs. Iran imbalance with one country, Israel, who possesses nuclear weapons but demands that another country, Iran, does not under threat of war makes no logical, reasonable sense to me. Israel's position is confusing because they have not spoken out against nor threatened other nuclear possessing countries, i.e., the US, Pakistan, India, North Korea, England, France, Russia, etc. While I am totally against all countries owning nuclear weapons and joined anti-nuclear weapons "Beyond War" in the mid 80s, I am indeed puzzled with Israel/US' position against Iran obtaining nuclear weapons. I see this as irrational hypocrisy, do as I say but not as I do. Why does Israel push for war with Iran? I would greatly appreciate comments regarding my questions. Artemis Rose San Francisco US Peace and Justice Activist
18. Obama should LEAVE IRAN ALONE
Gunnar ,   Gothenburg, Sweden   (06.19.13)
Let the sovereign state on the other side of the planet make its own decisions, chose its own path and do what they want, even if that means obtaining nuclear wapons. Barack, focus on America!!!
19. #13 dream on - BS scenario
Ed   (06.19.13)
Israel was many times in much worse situation. And neither the mighty Arabs nor the great Russia could do anything with it. And if a non conventional war starts because of Russia, it should be ready for mutual nuclear destruction. Yes, if you survive you could move to Norilsk from Moscow. So easy to yell threats when you feel safe. Well, you're not zafe!
20. #15 they will get you too
Ed   (06.19.13)
You naïve fool. You worry about oil prices and your sack. Israel is your front line. If it stops defending you, no oil will help you. Look around - Boston will be everywhere all the time. And Mazda 3 is fine when all you need to drive is 15min. Not your distance obsessed country with all autistic people not talking to each other and paying shrinks for that instead, or hiding girls in basements for decades. And yes, driving for 9 hours from place to place.
21. To No.17 Artemis Rose
Alan ,   Canada   (06.19.13)
Your naïve questions seem to indicate a confusion in equating Evil & Good. Or in other times putting Roosevelt & Hitler on the same level. After all if the USA had nuclear weapons why should the Nazis not have the same for the Third Reich? The answer to your questions is simple. Relations were normal between Iran & Israel until the fanatic Ayatollahs took over the country & publicly threatened the eradication of Israel. Given the disregard for the lives of their own citizens, it can be argued that the Iranian leadership would not be deterred from bombing Israel by the fear of Israeli nuclear retaliation. They have indoctrinated many Iranians with the belief of seeking to be “martyrs” & to enjoy the pleasures of paradise. They demonstrated this disregard during the Iran-Iraq war by sending to their certain death thousands of untrained sometimes weaponless soldiers in waves of useless attacks. Are you also forgetting all the atrocities Iranians have already committed around the world in terrorist acts? Are you forgetting they are the main supporters of the Assad regime in Syria where the citizens killed with their help nears 100 000 & the number of refugees over a million?
22. #5 Excellent Post
Brett ,   Florida   (06.19.13)
Too bad we still have the kool-aid drinkers from the U.S. showing their hatred for Israel and "slobbering love affair" for the muslim in chief here in the states. California and D.C., that says it all. #7, you got it right too. If Iran, or any other muslim entity had a nuclear bomb, they would use it. So, will Israel worry about what will happen to the rest of the world the day after, or will they defend themselves? Easy answer! #4, what can I say, you are a kindred soul to most of us who comment here.
23. WHO SAYS ISRAEL HAS STOPPED.....#4
MAHMOOD ,   LONDON-UK   (06.20.13)
Paying attention to Obama? What makes you think so?I think things exists in your skull which is not known to the outside world. I read atleast three to four news item every week suggesting consistent begging by your leaders asking USA to take Iran's threat seriously.And here you are making fool of yourself telling us that Israel has stopped paying attention to Obama altogether. Sarah,stop behaving as if we dont understand what is going on and refrain from giving false news to us.
24. #1 you r 200% right
inconito   (06.20.13)
I will summarize your excellent response, in the words of James Mattis CENTCOME commander: "the best we( US) can do, is to delay them a bit, only iranians can stop this programme" Mister James Cartwright former Vice Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff : “If they [Iranians] have the intent, all the weapons in the world are not going to change that,” Former US Secretary of Defense Robert Gates : " US or Israeli attack on Iran would “prove catastrophic” and “make a nuclear-armed Iran inevitable "
25. # 8 illusion, "know-how " can not be destroyed
inconito   (06.20.13)
iran has thousands of scientists. there is nothing except to send 500,000 men to occupy this country for decades, to destroy the expertise. and everyone knows that the united states will not restore conscription and send 500,000 soldiers in a major regional conflict, in order to maintain the Israeli nuclear monopoly. they have neither the will nor the financial means ... after 3000 billion spent in Iraq. coping to this idea, will iran nuclear, and Netanyahu will not change that
26. The simplest way to stop an Iranian bomb is not an attack
Vlad   (06.20.13)
Regime change is the answer. The Iranian regime is already teetering on the brink, and in the process of collapsing in the face of it's increasingly angered population. I've read that the regime's stability is coming apart and may even begin to crumble this year. What the West needs to do is covertly encourage regime change to speed up the process.
27. Nr 18. Why - ? -
Arn. ,   Sweden.   (06.20.13)
Iran will not leave the World Alone. Flytta till Iran !. Arn.Sweden.
28. The Best Solution
Adam Neira ,   Paris, France   (06.20.13)
Obama renews call for nuclear reductions (Ynet) There is a realistic way for nuclear weapons to be eliminated from the face of Planet Earth by the year 2025. The program will not put any of the nuclear states, such as Israel in jeopardy. The timeline is as follows : Pre-2013 and the rest of this year - Waiting for the waves to part. Preparation; 2014 - Reconvened NPT Conference; Agreements Signed; IAEA Expansion; 2015 to 2016 IAEA Expansion continues; 2017 to 2020 Inspections; 2021 to 2025 Dismantlement. This plan will also trump and solve the current Iran/West imbroglio.
29. It's a bit like waiting to go to the dentist
shachar ,   Eilat   (06.20.13)
Most people have this terror of going to the dentist so they wait until thepain is such that it outweighs theterror of the treatment. Dealing with Iran is the same. 10 years ago it was possible to destroy their nuclear program with a relatively minor operation and only minor repercussions. But we were terrified of the "Dentist" so we waited. As happens when one waits the problem has got far worse and the consequences even more painful...but we are still terrified so we wait. Soon nuclear weapons will be sprouting up across the middle east like mushrooms and everyone will say "why didn't we act sooner?"
30. he should bomb all of their nuclear, ballistic IRGC sites
CJK   (06.20.13)
a nuclear iran is not an option. waiting any longer is not an option. so either bomb, or else have the honesty to declare to the entire world that he will just try to deter. further dithering is not an option.
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