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Jerusalem landlord seeks religious tenant
Moshe Heller
Published: 08.07.13, 13:13
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1. why is this news?
Shalom Hartman   (07.08.13)
There are many secular landlords who don't rent out to religious Jews and they don't make it to the news. Why now? It's the landlord's prerogative to have whoever he wants, to live there. Perhaps he wants to make sure that his kitchen is kept kosher.
2. Segregation
(07.08.13)
This country is based on separatism and segregation... No wonder there's so much violence and racism in the Israeli society
3. Great idea!!
Kate ,   Israel   (07.08.13)
Only instead of Jews excluding other Jews, the landlords in central Israel should adopt this principle and exclude all Sudanese/Eritrean illegal immigrants.
4. So can we now specify secular tennants only?
Haim ,   TA   (07.08.13)
5. That's what should be done in all religious neighborhoods
Dov   (07.08.13)
Secular violent ones should stay in Tel Aviv.
6. # 3 you're right. Sudan has LOTS of space! :)
Me ,   Jerusalem, ISRAEL   (07.08.13)
7. Correct me if I'm wrong...
(07.08.13)
Isn't this illegal?
8. I love anyone who pays the rent..you dont pay you dont stay
Al   (07.08.13)
9. #7 Apparently it's not illegal
Dove   (07.08.13)
secular do it all the time but their media wouldn't bring it up. Secular wouldn't rent to religious and certainly not to charedim. Neither would they accept charedim at their workplace.
10. #9 - Incorrect
A Jerusalemite ,   Jerusalem, Israel   (07.08.13)
I still don't know about the legality - or otherwise - of renting to religious or secular only, but the rest of your diatribe is incorrect. I am an old woman. Have lived and worked here in Jerusalem for many, many years. In my varied work places we always had a mixture of secular, traditional and religious, including the occasional haredi person.
11. #9
Ayelet ,   Tel Aviv   (07.08.13)
I work for an 'American' company here in Israel. And sometimes the Haredim not reading the ad accurately come and interview for a position in customer service. On one occasion a Haredi man came in and asked why the girls are dressed like 'sl*ts'. My manager cut interview short and he was not hired. The girls did not say one bad word about him or never discourage management to interview Haredim. It is a casual environment (as was stated in the ad) and summer so yeah we wear dresses. But we didnt ridicule his attire!
12. #9 on employment
Denis ,   Tel Aviv   (07.08.13)
Seculars care only about profit and skills. The fact of low employment of haredim in some sectors signals mostly about low education/skills level. I worked in IT companies with haredim - nobody cares about your origin/religion if you know the craft.
13. I wonder
Sane   (07.09.13)
If the real reason may be he wants the flats kept kosher etc etc.
14. #11
Sane   (07.09.13)
Forgive me, but I find the story quite fishy for various reasons.
15. It looks like a third world ,...
split ,   US   (07.09.13)
Looking at the roof top TV antennas, are you sure that Israel is an electronic powerhouse you been bragging about? ,...
16. #10 In the US and EU
Israel   (07.09.13)
it's much easier for charedim to find jobs than Israel. Secular Israelis are extremely racists against charedim even though most of them with their Gemara heads are very bright. Don't bother denying it because it's a fact. It might not be so at your place and some other places but in most places charedim are unwanted. They'd much rather prefer 1/2 naked women to men with long black jackets.
17. #5 Dov: agreed keep religious out of secular neighborhood
Haim ,   TA   (07.09.13)
Yes i agree, we shouldnt rent appartments to religious people they should not be allowed to enter Tel Aviv the free city and those violent neighborhoods as you so acturatly describe, best keep them in the religious ghetos as you suggest. I also agree we shouldnt employ them either, next minute they are praying all over the place and forcing women to cover their hair and wear long denim dresses. I once saw a secular person i belive the father is a violent drug dealer and the mother is a pole dancer. You are correct and im so glad you pointed that out as i was in Tel Aviv the other day and feared for my life. This secularism, is it contageous or should i just wear a mask ? Do enlighten me in your observations as you are quite obviously smarter , wiser and better educated than most of us and a leading authority on such matters, my only salavation is that one day i would be so honored just to walk in your shadow.
18. To 14
Ayelet ,   TLV   (07.09.13)
Nope, not a fishing company. We sell products (not fish lol) to Americans. Perphaps he used a different word that is a synonym of sl*t but that is what the manager told us after the 'gentleman' bolted and we inquired why.
19. #16 - The reason why...
A Jerusalemite ,   Jerusalem, Israel   (07.09.13)
In Israel when Haridim work with other people they try to "influence" (force!) the other women working in the same place to dress "modestly" - modest being defined as Haridi modest, of course. When they work in the US or the EU they know enough to let others be free of their insidious remarks...
20. Discrimination
Yosef ,   Israel   (07.09.13)
Apparently, it is not illegal to discriminate in housing due to race, color or religion. (See also article on "Rabbis in Bnei Brak")
21. I don't see a problem
Airborne ,   Jerusalem   (07.09.13)
nor do I see this as being illegal. Just recently Restobar was closed because the owner of the property insisted on Kashrut and no Shabbat opening. How is this any different? One is a restaurant and one is a residence. Same same but different?? For the record I could care less what this man does with his property. If you don't like it then go buy your own apts. and rent them out however you see fit.
22. Dov , if we should stay in Tel Aviv
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (07.09.13)
why should we then defend the city "only for charedim" . If we are NOT welcome in Jerusalem , we can give it to the arabs , no more problems with "people" of your kind
23. There are problems and conflicts
Sagi   (07.09.13)
when it comes to this question. If you read the Basic Law, which in time is supposed to become Constitution, it will become apparent that no discrimination is allowed and that human dignity must be upheld, this means that a landlord cannot refuse a potential lesee on grounds of color,race or religion. On the other hand a landlord has the right to do with his property as he wishes. In the broader issue, Israel is not a de jure Apartheid state, if it was then I and many others would not be here. But de facto Apartheid practices are rife in all walks of life, from the Kotel, to the landlords, bars and nightclubs, schools and kindergartens, neighborhoods, kolels, buses, you name it, it is a fact of life, anybody who thinks otherwise in in denial of the facts.
24. #15 split
Beer ,   Germany   (07.09.13)
hearing you I also not sure that Americans are smart and busy. ...and change your glasses when visiting Detroit, Michigan
25. Good!
Ezra ,   San Diego   (07.09.13)
I pray all his efforts come to fruition. Observe and protect Shabbat. That type of behavior endears many Jews to live in eretz Israel.
26. Segregation Yes!
Ezra ,   San Diego   (07.09.13)
Separate the profane from the sacred. Judaism is all about segregation; the concept that one can be either clean or unclean, and that G-d is holy. Holy in Hebrew translates to the concept of being "cut-off". Cut off from the unclean habits which exist outside of Torah observance. This is truth.
27. # 25 Ezra
Sagi   (07.09.13)
That type of behaviour endears many Jews to LEAVE Israel.
28. I say NO to segregation!!
Avi ,   BELGIUM   (07.10.13)
STOP now this stupid separation!!
29. It is a modern trend for couples...
ORA ,   JERUSALEM   (07.10.13)
who have different ways of life and different friends to live separate,in order to have a peaceful relationship.There is nothing wrong with that. Why should it be different for two societies with opposed lifestyles?.
30. Apartments only for religious
chilli.Raveh ,   Jerusalem   (07.10.13)
You don't have to go so far as Nachlaot. In the middle of Palmach street an apartment stood empty for almost a year as the owners insisted on a religious tennant.
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