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Israel in damage control mode after EU decision
Attila Somfalvi
Published: 17.07.13, 09:31
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31. find the difference:
tiki ,   belgium   (07.17.13)
1948 Arab Boycott: International companies have to ''prove that they have no link with Israel! 2013 European Boycott: Israeli/European companies have to 'prove that they have no link with the old Jewish lands of Israel! 1933 Nazi Boycott of Jews! 1948 Arab Boycott of Israel! 2013 EU Boycott of Jewish Israel! Now it's up to the State of Israel to prove that they are an independent Jewish country or if they prefer to stay the Jewish Ghetto in the hostile anti Jewish world. This is the litmus test!
32. 14 Gilda Cohen, Rome
Cipora Julianna Kohn   (07.17.13)
you seem to think that all this is just "for the sake of some thousand fanatics." you really do not understand at all what is at stake. try to educate yourself before posting nonsense. just to give you some idea: the eu wants israel to give to the arabs the old city of jerusalem, the kotel, the french hill, gilo, and all other suburbs of jerusalem which are part of the municipality. they want israel to give up the golan, and all jewish presence in judea-samaria, thus depriving israel of all strategic depth and all high grounds. israel would be a sitting duck, as she was in 1967, before the six day war, surrounded by murderous islamist terrorists armed with a hundred thousand missiles. the jew hating europeans are simply following like blind bats the commands coming from saudi arabia and from obama. the eu is in appeasement mode, thinking that sacrificing the jewish state would satisfy the bloodthirsty islamists that they had let in to their midst.
33. One-state Solution
Ahmed   (07.17.13)
Annex WB/Samaria-Judea. Give full rights to the Palis + obligations. Inform them (and yourselves!!!) that 90% of the Palis are of Hebrew origins (converted from Samaritanism + Judaism - Historically verified, be sure!!). Invite them to be full citizens in an Israel for all HEBREWS, regardless of religion. Close the gates to the Arab world. End of Story!
34. @26 I am actually RIGHT!
Jew with Cojones ,   Israel   (07.17.13)
Our government is a self-centered klepto-cratic mess! Our government should have dealt with this BEFORE instead of trying to do damage control now.
35. A FLAP IN THE FACE ....
FO ,   Belgium   (07.17.13)
What is happening today is a more than a deserved flap in the face of the Israeli leadership, that was unable, unwilling, for some overtaken partisan leftists political interests, to defend Israel's-Jewish irrevocable rights in International Law, and made the Jewish State join as a rogue state the two other, namely Iran and North Korea. Not only is the Israeli population suffering from this loathsome Israeli leadership's behavior, but also the Jews worldwide, who support the State of Israel.
36. To Sarah B
Mike ,   NZ   (07.17.13)
Sarah, you are a gem .. . . .I do so enjoy your sharp tongue and clarity of mind !When I first read the article I was fuming but your comment was just priceless . . bless you !
37. So will the EU stop funding subversive organizations here?
YairH   (07.17.13)
They operate beyond what was the Green Line...
38. i am truly dumbfounded
nava ,   Jerusalem   (07.17.13)
to hear Israelis agree with the EU ban and argue for giving up all our Land to a mob of murderers, to see Judea/Samaria/Golan/1/2 of Jerusalem go up in flames like Egypt, Gaza, the Sinai, Syria, Lebanon. You idiots prefer THIS to civilized normal behavior of Israel? You prefer Iranian missiles mounted on the hills of the Shomron, training down on Tel Aviv? Syrian fanatics in the Golan? Jihadists meeting and moving freely i Jerusalem? What on earth can you possibly be thinking? The world will respect a strong Israel who annexes the whole lot and tells Eurabia to shove it.
39. To: Israeli 2 at No. 28
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (07.17.13)
Thank you for your kind words. In answer to your question, it occurs to me that perhaps "Cohen" is the only Jewish name that fanatical anti-Semites know ....
40. obama is the problem
tomer ,   or akiva israel   (07.17.13)
pentagon leaking military secrets ... kerry is pushing for hamastan state EU is helping obama who declares that he is the best israel friend. during this time obama is leaving the ayatollahs centri rolling rolling ...for what ? obama weakness at best or machiavelism is the real issue
41. It is heartening to note that...
Michael ,   Haifa   (07.17.13)
...there is a slight increase of sane decent talkbackers here, balancing out the usual insane foul-mouthed rabid rightists who frequent YNET with their nonsensical mantras.
42. To: No. 25
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (07.17.13)
I believe in the rule of law. And I know a fair amount about intellectual property law. Never once did I suggest that the world depends on Israel. But it depends a great deal upon Israeli owned and PATENTED technology. It depends a great deal upon Israeli developed -- and PATENTED -- medical discoveries. Particularly in the area of chemotherapy protocols for cancer, but in a great number of other areas as well. It is painfully obvious that you have no idea just how much of an impact Israel has had on information technology and medicine. I suggest you do a little bit of research. Actually -- a LOT of research. You reek of ignorance. Take a bath, why don't you? The stench of ignorance emanating from you is overwhelming.
43. However obdurate...
Raoul ,   Israel   (07.17.13)
the Palestinians are and whatever the wrongs of Europe's action may be, we should NOT be settling in DISPUTED territory. Period. And Sara B. can attack me with the foulest insult. The truth will emerge notwithstanding.
44. This would be good if...
Sam ,   Kfar Saba   (07.17.13)
The EU now follows this with an equally strong ultimatum to the Palestinians to get to the negotiating table. Bibi has always had big decisions to make but he has done whatever he can to avoid them. This is the result.
45. 1 :)
anton ,   istanbul   (07.17.13)
i am 100 percent sure you wouldnt make a good poker player you need to be creafull when you measure your cards(self worth) its only israelis who thinks they are in the center of world and thinks world will die off without them, such miscalculation will end up in loosing the game
46. Israel must ANNEX Judea & Samaria !
Chris Rettenmoser ,   Bayerisch Gmain Germ   (07.17.13)
Then those EU wimps can carry on with their idiotic antisemitic blah, blah till eternity !
47. # to 18
Gilda Cohen ,   Rome   (07.17.13)
Persecution mania, mental dissociation from reality, superiority complex. All this should prevent me from wasting my time with you, but as a menschen, I will try to help you. Israel has found its place in the world arena and it is within the Green Line. The Arabs and Muslins in general tried many times to throw us on the sea but we prove to be stronger and to defend the spot that rightly belong to us within the Green Line. Many people died for the spot. Many generations dreamt with it. We cannot let ambition, revenge, fanaticism destroy the Zionist dream. There is no logical whatsoever to conquer the WB. These are not sacred lands. If they were we should also conquer Sinai, Jordan, South Lebanon and reconstruct the 12-Tribes area. This is not the case. The settlers entreprize is just an adventure of real state greedy people and fanatics. YES, DEAR, fanatics that use the same aggressive language as you. Anti-Semitism exists and I face this everyday in the city where I live. But this is not the reason to oppress and destroy other people. Jews have a land now. It starts in the Mediterranean Sea and ends in the Green Line. Try Rivotril, dear. It's a good one. And doesn't need prescription.
48. EU makes too much trouble
Ilana   (07.17.13)
The Eu ought to recognize Hezbollah as a terror organization way before any other decisions it makes-such hypocrisy!! Our holiest sites are in Jerusalem and Judah and Samaria so asking what they do is only anti semitic and very disgusting. EU is asking us to give up, relent all that is important and this will never work, will never bring peace. SO sad.
49. #33 Ahmed, I'm not sure you are for real but
Yossef   (07.17.13)
I'm not far from thinking the same. Except for a handful of immigrate from Jordan or Egypt, the palestinians descend from Israeli tribes. Even some Nabateans were converted to judaism once, long time ago, then to christianity and to islam. It's time for them to come back home :-)
50. #33 Ahmed 100% right
nava ,   Jerusalem   (07.17.13)
Very few understand what you just said. Kol hakavod for bringing it up.
51. 24 LU, Israel is not backed into a corner
Cipora Julianna Kohn   (07.17.13)
the annexation of area C would not make israel into an "apartheid" state. those arabs who live in area C would be offered israeli citizenship. their numbers are not large. this should have been done a long time ago. at the same time, and besides all i had posted, Israel has to take care of iran. there never be a more propitious time. just ignore obama.
52. Livni: 1 --- Bibi: 0
(07.17.13)
She was working hard for this in EU in June.
53. Ahmed @ #33:
Israeli 2   (07.17.13)
I don't know how old you are, but my little 9 year old knows that you are not serious. If you are serious, propose it first to the so called "PALIS" and see what they say to you. 90% will crucify you on the spot. The so called "Palis" you mentioned are none other than Arabs. One State already exist - ISRAEL. We Jews are just human enough to figure out the best way to get those occupying bastards out of our midst. You suggested "annexation". A great idea that will be implemented soon. Thanks.
54. To #49 and #50
Ahmed   (07.17.13)
Dear friends! Yes I am for real :) And further, as you both have come to similar ways of thinking, I can also add that history has shown that in Israel within the Green line, there is extensive cooperation between Jews and non-Jews [arabic speaking Israelites as I call them]. At the end of the day the Population of the Holy Land can only rely to its own Resources. Pan-Arabism is dead. Pan-Islamism should die! [not the religion but the political movement disguised as a "religion"]. An all-incusive state for Hebrews of different creeds, but with the same Israelite origins could prosper in all aspects. The Palis how nothing (equels ZERO!!) good or positive to expect from the Arab World. They are just playing games with the Palis. Full cooperation (with FULL obligations of course!) is the only way. None of the populations can ever get rid of each other, ever. And further - ESSENTIAL! - the Jewish Hebrews must have a safe haven in a crazy World in which Antisemitism can errupt at anytime.
55. #11 Sarah B
Sarah B ,   Tel Aviv/London   (07.17.13)
You really do live in your own dreamworld don't you? The companies that own the phones will just ignore Israel, unless Israel is prepared to buy 2 billion handsets a year, Apple will ignore Israel unless every Israeli citizen buys 4 ipads. Israel is not as big a player as you like to imagine. If it was you would live there
56. EU does not want a Palestinian state
Richie ,   Dublin, Ireland   (07.17.13)
It's no coincidence that this EU statement comes just when the US is getting somewhere with restarting peace talks between Israel and the Palestinians. If a Palestinian state comes into being it will not be able to cope with the amount of Palestinian refugees going there. These refugees won't be refugees anymore and they won't stay in this new state. They will flood the EU and surrounding Arab states, something the EU and the Arab League doesn't want to happen. So the EU (and Arab league) will talk up support for the Palestinian cause, send vast amounts of money etc. but will do everything in their power to actually stop a palestinian state coming about. The EU (and Arab league) wants things to stay as they are. They don't want millions of Palestinians flooding into Europe and Arab states.
57. #47 from ROMA, ITALIA: OH DEAR! OH MY!
Israeli 2   (07.17.13)
Basic psychology will teach you that there is no such animal as a superiority complex. Even Hitler Cohen had an inferiority complex. If you try to speak Yiddish, speak it correctly. Mensch = singular. You are not menschen neither mensch. Start learning from Sarah B.
58. #11 Sarah B. - Even if true ...
European ,   EU   (07.17.13)
A very childish talkback, Sarah, but even if true, this would also work the other way round, because the EU has enough patents to let life in Israel stand still. It's funny, people on this forum are continuously claiming how irrelevant the EU is, but on the other hand they've written 150+ angry talkbacks on ynet within 24 hours. If Israel is really so independent and powerful, then why is everybody so upset? Btw, what are we talking about? The EU wants to stop funding the occupied territories. What? Funding? I didn't know they did it. And the EU is still funding pre-1967 Israel. From this perspective your talkback, Sarah, gets even more ridiculous. The recipient of subsidies is economical threatening its favourer. Nice one...
59. # to GILDA about Sarah B.
Kobi Martin ,   Tel Aviv   (07.17.13)
Gilda, don't waste your time here. Most of the talkbackers live abroad, far away from our reality. To them it is easy to preach hate and isolation. Their kids are not going to the wars nor they pay taxes here. They just like Israel for the Bar Mitzvah of their grandchildren or for the July summer vacation. Most of the talkbackers, I suspect must get some money from our enemies. Take the case of this lunatic Sarah B. How it is possible to believe that Israel has reached its technological standard without any cooperation with the European Academic centers? 100% of our patents are the result of years of exchange of knowledge with the main scientific centers of the world. Just google any CV of Israeli academics and it is easy to check the publications, the critics, the cooperation work. If this lady preaches our isolation is just because she wants to destroy us from within, isolating us from the great researchers fields, from the advanced world. Again, let me repeat: we are a normal decent people. Leave us alone, stay in Brooklyn, and as suggest Gilda, have a rivotril pill every day.
60. The EU, with this decision, has shot itself in the foot and
Jehudah Ben-Israel ,   Qatzrin, Israel   (07.17.13)
will not be welcome, of course, into any peace process. But, worse, it has also shot Kerry's efforts in the leg, or even chest, since precisely this kind of move will ensure that the Arabs will not come to the peace negotiation table, if Europe and others can do the work for them in weakening Israel. The question however must be: Does Europe actually want peace, or rather the Jews' submission, again...??
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