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Beitar Illit off priority list: 'Government pushing haredim into corner'
Kobi Nachshoni
Published: 05.08.13, 00:25
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1. Pirates
Michael ,   Haifa   (08.05.13)
One gang of pirates cry when another gang of pirates steals their treasure. And the true owners of the treasure are too stupid to realize they are being robbed, so they don't cry.
2. Tell Deri to give the money to Moroccaiim deserving it more.
Michael ,   California, USA   (08.05.13)
3. Assistance ??
Ron ,   Melbourne, Australia   (08.05.13)
The word Assistance sounds so nice. Actually "Assistance" means taking from some by use threatening to use force (i.e. if they do not pay the police, prison ,etc - are involved) and giving those funds to someone else. To add salt to wounds they give it to a person belonging to a group which is opposition in words and in deeds to the person the money is taken from. Assistance - more like highway robbery.
4. diaspora jews...
elke ,   usa   (08.05.13)
...won't support the settlements. Believe it. The settlement enterprise is collapsing.
5. Ntanyhu/Lapid pitting religious sectors against each other
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6. Destroy this city
Dan   (08.05.13)
In what country in the world is there a city restricted to one sect of one religion? is there a city for Jesuits only that we don't know about? This is the worst of Haredi intolerance: it's refusal to mix with others democratically, it's capture of Israeli government, it's manipulation of law, its refusal to accept fair treatment and its resort to threats. This city is a throwback to ghetto Judaism, an affront to democracy and a shame upon Israel, not to mention a massive impediment to national security. Remove it.
7. Haredim Exagerating
Zechariah   (08.05.13)
The Haredim ought do something in addition to Torah studies visiting the sick and checking their care both at home and hospital.Basic resuscitation and first aid skills plus knowledge in disaster medicine and skill in alleviating on a First Aid basis like the Rambam and Rabbis from the Mishna and Tanach like Mar Samuel .They ought acquire those skills through Hatzollah.
8. Yes, the government is pushing the Haredim.
Israeli 2   (08.05.13)
Unfortunately, Israel is not yet what it will be one day. There will be no Haredim, no Rabanut, no datiim and certainly no Leftist Chilonim. There will be one nation without coercion, 12 tribes and one leader who will serve for 7 years. A country for Jews (not Erev Rav), Laws according to Torah, true love, respect and well being.
9. Haredi benefits and questions
Liz ,   Illinois USA   (08.05.13)
Im from the USA and I don't understand this article. Are these the Haredim who are against the current state of Israel? If they are then why get upset over receiving funds from an entity the think is bad?
10. For those Haredim that don't serve
DT ,   TA Israel   (08.05.13)
their country it serves them right and minus all their benefits as well. For those that do they should be honored.
11. Very sad with all "the other" sibling rivalries
Kerwood Derby ,   Frostbite Falls, MN   (08.05.13)
Lapid with his pedigree of hatred for living Yehudim, especially those who try to live as their forefathers, with his abba Tommie who epitomized same to the extent of his Shoa bidness at Yad Vashem while vilifying living Yehudim as Yehudim. Bennett who claims it is the zenith of human rights violations to expel mad asses of men who come to kill you. No wonder they coalesce with BB who ceded the first land of the first Jew in Hevron to those that come to kill you, voted over&over&over&over again to destroy ~10000 Yehudim lives in YeShA and continues with his self-proclaimed "Iron Fist" against those who dare to live as their forefathers in the land of their own name. etc. etc. But for those who tremble to side with those who support your destruction and espouse pikuach nefesh as justification for your support of your destruction with the Oslo death accords in order to fill your sails is a chillul HaShem. I understand living apart, but to engage in your own destruction by siding with the suicidal artists in your tent who would arm, feed and train those that come to kill you is ineffable.
12. Hope for the future.
Aaron ,   Florida   (08.05.13)
A small battle won for the State and for the future. Enough of this, "spacial treatment' for the haredim. Time to own up and pay your fair share: -Military Service -No special Torah study benefits -Harsher punishments for Terrorist acts on secular Jews. (If taking hammers to buses in protest and continuing to assault women and girls is not a form of terrorism, then please double check the definition.) Time to stop being a leach on the country. Go to America and raise all the money you want by those willing to give for your continual free ride. Do not force people to have to pay for your lifestyle, hence forth lowering theirs in order to do so. Time to pick up your part and cut the umbilical cord.
13. Good news well done Yapid and Bennet
Haim ,   TA   (08.05.13)
14. #8, Dreaming? Head buried in the sand?
Michael ,   California, USA   (08.05.13)
There will be no people supporting such a country living there. Israel only has future as a hiloni country, democratic, with religion separated and practiced by individuals in any way they see it fit, equality for all and with no coercion. You need to enter a detoxification program.
15. Amreican benifits
sam ,   jerusalem   (08.05.13)
Many people in USA receive welfare benifits from the American gov't even though they don't like Obama and think he is bad for the country
16. Gee i guese they could always go get a job
Haim ,   TA   (08.05.13)
Oh i see, they have a litter of 12 kids then expect our tax money to fund this so called life style of theres, really i dont think so.
17. Enemy of Herodians isn't gov't, it's
Paqid Yirmeyahu ,   netzarim.co.il   (08.05.13)
the inexorable and inescapable progress of knowledge There is no place in the 21st century to continue censoring knowledge and propping up indoctrination of youth Torah is about truth, not controlled and filtered info propping up Medieval fables
18. #14: Michael: Down boy! Down!
Israeli 2   (08.05.13)
You talk all this rubbish only because you haven't seen what I saw. I can see what will be while you only see what is. I never said "coercion" and there will be none. This will be a new future Eretz Yisrael. There will be no more Chilonim or Datiim. There will be Jews with loving and normal minds. 2/3 of the people in Israel are like you and they will not be among those who will witness this New Israel. Unfortunately for them and you.
19. Mr. Hershkop
R ,   Israel   (08.05.13)
You are quoted as saying "..take matters into our own hands and seek the support of the Diaspora Jews". Why should diaspora Jews have to support you? How about you work or tighten your belt? We have all been hit by the austerity measures and have had to tighten our belts, so why should we have to keep giving to you?
20. Chareidi Bashing Agan!
Sad   (08.06.13)
This line of thinking goes against every Jewish value I was ever tought. I was taught you give Tzedaka without strings attached- not because you like them. You study Torah because it a gift from G-d and it is the string that keeps our people Alive. The prospect of Israel without Torah it has happened before but never with good consequences.
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