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Report: Israeli advisers helping Kenya in mall siege
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Published: 22.09.13, 15:40
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1. Godspeed
Johnny ,   Stockholm Sweden   (09.22.13)
2. US has no intention of helping against Peaceful Islam
ab   (09.22.13)
3. oh no- - this means one thing; Israelis are held hostage
(09.22.13)
Go IDF
4. Historically, use of force in this situation will result in
Miron ,   USA   (09.22.13)
death of many ahostage. Curiously, press organ makes only fleeting reference to the demands of armed group. I guess as long as they aren't demanding a piece of Ierushalaim it's not interesting to this particualr people... This fleeting reference is actually interesting. It sounds to me that Kenians are being rouded up and sent to kill Somalians. Not that I can change something about that, realistically, but it wells a question, does it matter to these people whether to kill people in Somalia or this Kenian mall, and why should it be any different. Economically speaking this armed group makes far more profound imapact on social stage by killing people in VIP mall. In fact they might pay for it with their lives, but those who bear arms and fight in those operations are likely to secure significant raise, to get better motivated to kill people, those VIP consider... undesired ( how do you like that one? ). 15 years ago I would of being much more emotional about this situation. But after seeing how much West values human life over those same 15 years, I wonder what stops people from this style of negotiation for better quality of life on a daily bases. You think you can make a living hell on our planet and get away by putting a few arses with rifles between your mall and rest of the world?
5. Why weren't Israeli units sent to rescue Shalit?
Chaim ,   Israel   (09.22.13)
I have no problem with Israeli units being sent all the way to Nairobi to rescue terror victims. But why weren't elite Israeli units sent to rescue Gilad Shalit a few kilometres away in land that legally belongs to Israel? That is inexcusable.
6. #3 or something else
(09.22.13)
UK and US boast the best special forces in the world, easily outclassing the IDF. There is only one reason the Kenyan authorities would ask tiny Israel to help and it is scary: the Kenyans are afraid that US and UK can't be trusted to protect innocents from Jihad. Face it: in light of US and UK assistance to Jihad in Libya and Syria, there is a real concernUS and UK are on the side of Jihad.
7. @5 Sounds to me, Mossad is keeping Israel in the dark...
Miron ,   USA   (09.22.13)
8. Israel must be careful of sleeper cells amongs migrants
(09.22.13)
9. #5
(09.22.13)
If the IDF had killed or wounded an Arab terrorist during an attempt to rescue Shalit, there would have been international condemnation and diplomatic damage.
10. #4
(09.22.13)
The attackers want to pay with their lives. "Allah is our goal. The prophet is our model. The Koran is our constitution. Jihad is our path. Death for the cause our most sublime desire"
11. #6
Rhonda ,   Chicago, USA   (09.22.13)
The US, UK AND the IDF have excellent special forces. Each have their moments. For example, the Israelis were able to successfully mount the rescue at Entebbe. The Americans were unable to rescue the hostages in Iran but were able to get Bin Laden.
12. a moment of pride beeng israeli
miriam ,   israel   (09.22.13)
13.  killing them is not enough
ky   (09.22.13)
There must have been many people involved in the planning of this let alone the relatives and friends of those who committed this outrage and knew that it was about to happen. I bet there are quite a few living in the UK. They have links everywhere
14. KENYA/AFRICA AND ISRAEL/ASIA
SJOERD VAN DER VELDE ,   OUR BIG MULTIVERSE   (09.22.13)
IT REALLY PROVES AGAIN THAT ''ISLAM'' IS A DICTATORIAL/CRIMINAL OBSESSION/IDEOLOGY PRACTIZED BY THE ''ISLAM''-FOLLOWING. WITHOUT ''ISLAM'', THE ARAB PEOPLE COULD BE ONE OF THE MOST CULTURED/CIVILIZED PEOPLE, ON OUR GLOBAL PLANET OF EARTH, WE CAN CONCLUDE.
15. Peace with some Int. Gang Org.
AlbertoGA ,   St. George USA   (09.22.13)
Peace with Islam in this time is as the famous peace is at hand ...remember dear old Chamberlain at the London Airport WW2 ...Ayayay what is next. Shalom from Obama land,the USA
16. What's in Islam...????
USA   (09.22.13)
What is it in Islam that continually creates such bloodshed to innocent people??!!! It CANNOT be from the true God! Judge a religion by its fruits...
17. Zionist entity returns the favor Kenya did during Entebbe
Steve Benassi ,   Silver Bay, MN USA   (09.22.13)
IDF/IAF received assistance, resupply and landing in Kenya. This was key in enabling the operation to rescue 100 Jews kidnapped by Muslim Arab terrorists, similar to what is happening today ta the Nairobi Mall.
18. #5 - Are you feeling okay?
Daniel ,   Australia   (09.22.13)
are you feeling okay? :) Israel sent the IDF into Gaza in response to Schalit being kidnapped. The mission was to comb Gaza and find him. Consequently, the second lebanon war started. Do you not recall this? I personally know two commanders who were involved in this specific operation south when schalit kidnapping happened.
19. very best of luck to Israel's special forces, best in world
CJK   (09.22.13)
the islamic terror is on ascendance in the world. the governments are unable to plan ahead and come up with clear strategies to prevent this scourge. unless the west devises a clear strategy to prevent and ultimately defeat islamic terror, life will become unbearable.
20. #17, not mine
Steve Benassi ,   Silver Bay, MN USA   (09.22.13)
21. #20, not mine.
Steve Benassi ,   Silver Bay, MN USA   (09.22.13)
22. In moments like this
Jose ,   Nigeria   (09.22.13)
We all need Israel. I am sure their presence is a calming assurance to Kenya. Thank you Israel!!
23. #17
Jose ,   Nigeria   (09.22.13)
Yes you are right. Kenyans in Uganda paid the price as Idd Amin killed many Kenyans living in Uganda after being humiliated by the Entebbe operation.
24. #18. Gaza War was NOT about freeing Shalit.
Chaim ,   Israel   (09.22.13)
To quote Wikipedia, "Israel's stated goal was to stop rocket fire into Israel[42] and weapons smuggling into the Gaza strip". Are you feeling ok yourself, Daniel?
25. @6 US and UK might boast, but Israel's record
Jrebecca ,   Modiin   (09.22.13)
speaks for itself. There are many reasons Kenya might ask Israel for help. Their track record for one. Their presence in Kenya is two. But the US and UK's current record is also a reason
26. @4 Historically if the USA is involved, use of force
Jrebecca ,   Modiin   (09.22.13)
results in hostages dying. Israelis have a far better record.
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